Why is the cw so dead in this server compared to ***?
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Why is the cw so dead in this server compared to ***?
because 90% of cw'ers are op'd donor + unlegit well dunno about other people but thats main I don't cw even though I just cw'd first time yday on a lvl 1 using 1 donor sg only and 2v1'd like 4-5 times in 10 games ;s aint got decent partner too ;s
I also asked that question myself. The majority of the users on Freestyle GunZ seek for fun rather than competition (you can see lot's of players chilling in training rooms), we need those more 'competitive' players, which I believe a good patch which consists of enhancements and other things that could make players to clan-war more.
Also, 90% of the people are unlegit and donor items are over-powered? Just because players are skilled and like everyone you have the possibility to lose doesn't mean 90% of the players are unlegit. A skillful player with level 1 shotguns weapons can beat a player which has donor items. Donor items give you a slight advantage, you can even compete with level 70+ weapons against donators.Quote:
Originally Posted by traumatis3r
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Originally Posted by Cobra
yea thats pretty much 100% right.
unfortunately we have already tried that and it was deny'ed so............?
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TBH, we've been asking for that for months and nothing has been done.
nothing at all.
You're wrong, you haven't tried thatQuote:
Originally Posted by KoVuMASA
Defekt the god played in RipTomy2013 with no donors and we wrecked everyone :)
im talking about making the server competitive, not what your "famous" clan did in cough 2013 coughQuote:
Originally Posted by GodTommy
I have never seen a serious thread about what could be done to improve the server in order to raise the player count and make the server more competitive and fun, when someone tries to make a serious thread about improvement or something about the server that someone wishes to be implemented, some brain dead person comes in and responds "#TOOMANYPROBLEMSONFG" or something which has nothing to do with the topic, or the most thing I hate, picks a fight with someone else commenting and pulling some unnecessary comments. Have to keep in mind that a staff member doesn't want to deal with people like this, that's why.Quote:
Originally Posted by KoVuMASA
look how much DDaggerDD tried to change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobra
look at all the [R] Polls
look at all the vial polls.
honestly, i dont know how you can say, I have never seen a serious thread about what could be done to improve the server in order to raise the player count and make the server more competitive and fun.
im now done with this thread due to that incompetence.
bai.
This is probably the most serious comment i've ever made about this topic:
FG will never, EVER be a competitive server. Just deal with it. The players quality sucks, you can notice by the inactive clanwar channel or the lack of competitive rooms made. Making new competitive content wont bring better people at this point, cause whoever plays this game competitively, knows fg community sucks and its not worth investing in new donator accounts in a foreign server. Plus, developers making new quest content instead of what's really needed aint helping much about this (ye u pirateboai, #inb4tsunamiofsht). So yea, to size up, whoever still cws in fg is just a p00sy who cant stand losing against good quality players in other server and stays here just to dominate some brsinhos. dealwithit.
I'd say let's blame Kira and his lil minion Hamza aka ThanksDD. They lamed erryday from the start of 09 and stopped midway in 2012 after ThanksDD was banned due to other reasons. They had rockets, mines, snipers, you name it! This compelled half of the server to rage quit (alt f4) out of the game and prob even uninstall cos they were lil virgin nobs who had nothing to do in life except make others mad. I think that's the story behind the clan war scene being empty or inactive. '-'
Sure, they made serious threads, but do you know what they turn into?Quote:
Originally Posted by KoVuMASA
Spoiler!
Actually its the opposite. They actually were the few ones who kept cwing us back in the day even if they kept losing. So ya, say thanks to our good bru kira, whos been losing since 09. ^1okQuote:
Originally Posted by DesiBoii
Why not? Changes can always be made to make a server more competitive.Quote:
Originally Posted by KoreanAim
That's why changes has to be made.
I disagree.
StephanM is a client developer (designs, etc.), he's not a coder. Obviously, he can change the item stats, but that won't do the trick. Some changes has to be done with the items, but that's not the big issue.
i think its more of the fact that they were able to do that kept people away. the shit *****s be bringin into cw these days, broken guns, boosted vial meds, avatars that u cant even see, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by DesiBoii
why would a normal player even want to play a cw when u got every ***** cwin wit a lb+pony
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but ive played at that br server before and their donors are even more ridiculous compared to ours tbh. people with 170+ hp/ap like tf? so idk
Sorry if I'm going to make an example of you. But mods should delete replies like these when someone is commenting about something serious, thread would end up getting closed and no serious discussion would be done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonji No
True, some things seem broken and something has to be changed. But in all my honesty, a game would be enjoyable (especially on-line) AND competitive if:Quote:
Originally Posted by -AznNinja
- Balance
- Stability
- Various things that could make the game more competitive and entertaining at the same time.
At least those three, can assure you that player count would easily raise by time.
so, your agreeing threads that have good/valid points to be made are overlooked by staff because of all the idiots shitting on the thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobra
so wow.
They made a 100$usd monthly reward and yet you cant get to play 5 cws in a row. What other genius idea do you think it would attract professional players rather than money?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobra
I just think what would attract me (an old days competitive player) and i can clearly see fg does not have it, and its not even close to it. Plus the new servers that are on process will end this vague hope you have.
I guess that pirate likes to take some naps when he's sailing on the sea cause he's the slack king. Took months to do some stupid project about quest which will end up in a negative effect on the community. He could've made new weapon designs, even some stupid anime sets would be better than those babygen quests, rofl. But yo, he does not have not even 1% of the guilty of fg is as it is. Maybe the forum, cuz he's just a cockblocker for interesting threads, but oh well.
So ya, to size it up, mada mada dane...
You misunderstood or I didn't explain myself correctly. Normal members tend to insult stuff members because some things aren't done as they wish, the 'serious' with those good/valid points ends up getting closed because of spam and unnecessary comments. If there's a person who would like to include a good valid point but the thread is closed. Then again... creates another thread, ends up getting closed. All I am saying is with this attitude nothing won't change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Godlike jun
Player count, there's no other 'genius' idea that should be done. In order to raise player count you need to attract users, perhaps old-gens or players which played GunZ already would join back, or even new players.Quote:
Originally Posted by KoreanAim
Can't respond on the one about StephanM, that's really none of our business what he's doing. As a normal player we give suggestions with good valid points and they do what they want from there.
All I know is that Dave and such always took good suggestions in consideration, people begged for clan-war rejoining, now it's done, people asked for mines to be removed from clan-war, now it's done, people asked for a better anti-lead, it was improved, etc.
You talk about 'genius' idea and there are plenty given look at the threads that were made about balancing weapons, mods, ddaggerdd's 10k word essays, etc and you're telling me that there is not one post out there that was 'genius'?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobra
Before you talk about weapons and such, make sure you know what was I am referring to. I was referring to the clan-wars. Also, I'm sick and tired of repeating this again and again, his threads always ended into sh1t. Everyone flaming instead of coming up with solutions together like a real community and the thread ends up getting closed and nothing solved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Akimbo
That's the whole point weapon rebalancing are NEEDED for clan wars I mean god a 10dmg sg that needs to be rebalanced aint shit done bout that. You said that solutions need to be given instead of complaints PLENTY of solutions were given in thoses serious threads like to increase competitiveness get rid of mods cause if you just keep playing in mod rooms ur bound to suck 4ever since u just spam the shit so when those noobs just go cw they get obliterated and they'll just hide in their mod rooms forever and never come out. Anyway to sum it up there were plenty of solutions so what are you on about and if also you're telling something about threads getting closed down cause of ridiculous flame? read this https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...-on-the-forumsQuote:
Originally Posted by Cobra
Honestly, you guys look at well known servers which were known for having a lot of cw when they were alive. (take w t t & qg for example, both servers closed so no advertise kk) they had same stats for anyone, which made everyone have equal chances and then clanwar would be a matter of total skill & teamwork instead of whoever meds the fastest or spams the most. And the donors they had were just 2 extra clips of meds and VIP. Honestly, im not asking to change this entire server, but if you look at successful servers and see what they did right; fg may become a lot more competitive.
This is why i said fg will NEVER, EVER be a competitive server. FG essense is custom sht, right? stuff like landmines, stupid missiles coming thru the sky, and random roomtags and game modes. To make a server like qg, or ***, you would have to rip absolutely everything that makes fg different from other servers. In this case, different is not always better. As a counter-effect, you get this quest community. Thats why you should give up trying to make this into a competitive server. If you want competition, go a competition-based server, this is ^1brland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cute Nymph
Even if we add tons of features to CW, it would still be dead.
People don't consider FGunZ as a competitive server, more like a fun server to mess around in a room with 500 roomtags in its title.
some of my friends and i dont try and improve our skill, practice and cw in fgunz because if we did, which we cant, the skills we would develop would just be "what meta tactics work best in this server" instead of improving in the game gunz in general, and our skills in dstyle would get too warped. Theres a lot of valid ways of play in fgunz that became invalid because of all the spam and also when i dont wanna cw and just tdm, or duel, i rarely can.
I conclusion, fgunz staff saying no we dont want your money.
So wen i do play fgunz, its just literally not even for fun because playing gunz is fun for me and i cant do that here, so i just screw around like everyone else.
By the way I saw someone saying fgunz players like to play in training rooms and whatever , they join training rooms to ruin other's practice , And to rage there and ego with '1v1 go make' or '11-0' .
Did you just say that we dont need new quest content, man you are really blind to the other side of the FGunZ community... We need both the competitive side and the non-competitive side. Also this server is the best not lagging every minute server out there, with graphics i can actually look at.Quote:
Originally Posted by KoreanAim
True, but not everyone is the same, some people like room-tags, some people don't. We are losing those players which like a competitive server (clanwar a-like).Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
so dave, what is going to be done about this?
Wtf is he gonna do, be like, PLAY CW OR BANno. Hes not gonna do that. Hes gonna reccomend us too, and the people who choose to do so can. But hes not gonna force everyone to cw. He can add enhancements to make it better, to listen to peoples suggestions to make more people want to, but that's pretty much it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DDaggerDD
Man i wish i could be like
/Locked.
Answering your own question. I said something simple with no extra kiddie feelings behind it like your reply, being all angry n shit. Anyhow, who knows what he is going to do, You speakin on here like you do, yet you're just assuming which is obvious right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kintama
What's this guy's story seriously though. You can say your opinion back to me, but like that, just makes it less valid.
P.S. wish all you want bro.
P.S.S. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz @ staff lameness
since when was it a rule that u couldn't have debates about the game in the general section.
And @ what dave said really touches on why.
Another thing, im in a group with a good amount of players from original gunz that loved to cw, and some that recently played cw in other pservers and I know lots of em would only cw here cuz the English speaking players player base, and that's pretty much it I believe.
i think one of the reasons why ppl here don cw is because they think those good players in cw are all unlegits rofl. Im one of the active cwer in this server and what i notice is everytime i own some1 in cw, they don say u're good they just call u unlegit. They think u're unlegit thats y u're good lol. I think such mindset is the main problem why so little people are cwing. If there is some features to prove that we are not unlegit but indeed a legit pro, there may will be more people willing to cw to improve their skill to beat us. Hmm probably adding the function of spectating in cw can help?? Or something that can show that we are not ucing ocing sbing esp dmg reduce.
Would be true if i didn't see most people in CW with this ping: --Quote:
Originally Posted by Fearsome
When it comes to successful problem solving, people shouldn't ignore variables that are hard to control, in this case, hackers, bots, macro spam, etc. or else they will affect many other things like this good point you brought up is merely a result from lack of control against unlegit options players can use. this is all obvious, the hard part is figuring out how to control em.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fearsome
Slowly and more constantly will people be finding more issues like this and then try solving them but it all is just a result from another issue that hasnt fully been dealt with. So instead if waiting for conflicts to happen, should always try to take control of these "out of reach" variables. If we just try your solution, it may work kinda, but other conflicts will keep popping up then some1 will again suggest a resolve but you gotta get it by the roots.
^ this. Anyone that is even decent gets reported like 24/7 and somehow he will get banned eventually lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Fearsome
MyThIcQuote:
Originally Posted by MyThIc
Banned
meh. even months ago FG was like 500+ players pretty consistently and now we're at like.. what? 300? I don't really analyze it too closely to know why the drastic incline but I agree with a lot of comments on this thread. Of course everyone's going to argue with differing opinions. Can definitely agree the server is not competitive at all.. Theres some quality game modes for players who aren't into competitive, don't get me wrong.. but if we're only attracting that player base it get's rather lame. All these games modes (gun game, zombie, CTF, roll the dice) , sniper rifles, room tags, developers focusing more on quest than anything else. Maybe i'm just an old player who cries out inside for the way gunz use to be.. (no snipers, actually RELOADING your guns and not pure spamming, mansion DM's or beserkers for grinding, actual competition in clan wars) sure, we can still have that here, but who's going to when 90% of the player base won't take part?
It's my opinion that freestyle is a good server, but for people who like over-customized servers. Old, valued, fun/funny players in gunz private servers are either getting banned on a daily basis here (just tellin' it as it is) and/or getting replaced by brazilians. I mean it's cool if we want to permanently ban these players but eventually we're just going to see more decline or the server just entirely full of foreign players, just enjoying the over-customized game style (the old crew banned or moved on).
just an honest analysis. we are debating afterall, aren't we?
i think its because gunz is getting old
there is also truth in this.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaseoPKK
I've been playing gunz for the past 3 days and i've noticed cw became quite active, idk if it was only cuz of my timezone or what, but it is nice to see things are getting better. On a side note, Rooms s u c k (yes, it's that bad).
cw is not dead, they are just banning whoever cws, therefore cw is dead
never cw plz
Fg is quester server, not competitive. Cw on here is the easiest shit since ezkorey uc prime *** randomness OKE
because no one that is good plays this game anymore, only questers like aroma hhhh