lol you ask for valid reason but half of your ****ing responses are so childish....
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lol you ask for valid reason but half of your ****ing responses are so childish....
Yesssssssssss
So we could get 1 shotted by certain shotbotters? No thanks!
It's easy to dodge sniper . Just learn to deal with it .
Clanwar is fine without them.
No.
Since most of the user can rs with sniper.
Too op kk
and gg 34/34
The Prince doesn't approve this.
No.
/bump
I Would say yes its more fun and harder
This would be alright if it was unanimous but it's tied so I don't see it coming as a future update for now.
Whatever.. Just let Sniper back in to CW and make it more competetive. Its unfair to those who are pro to snipers and can't use it in CW.
Again this?
Well, I voted for yes.
People just don't know how to handle snipers, therefore they wanted them removed.
People claiming sniping takes no skill, please try streaking with it.
People claiming snipers always backpeddle/hide, please check out any non br sniper.
not part of the game, so no.
Oh yea, totally a grand idea.
They dominated before and how that everything else was nerfed? WHY NOT!
Seriously, I prefer Shotgun dittos rather than jerk off and camp dittos, because it WILL happen.
GG diversity.
Funny how they remove Snipers because they can't handle them. It's a weapon like every other weapon, i don't see people removing Revs and shit. And if you tell me Snipers doesn't take skill, you're ****ing ******ed. Every weapon, regardless who's using it, takes some skill. You can't just start 3 shotting people with shotguns. That'd be absolute bullshit. Same goes for snipers, you have to have some skill. They removed it due to the fact that people bitched about it constantly. Why should you take someone's best weapon away? If I'm a sniper who can't use shotguns, why take it away? What if this server was a sniper only server and they removed shotguns because people couldn't handle it? It'd be completely ****ed up, that's your answer.
Bottom line:
-Don't remove any weapons due to bitching.
-It takes skill no matter the weapon.
-Taking someone's best weapon away is completely ludicrous.
lol. do this and might as well say good bye to any outside competitive clan war/tournament player coming here. I remember on super old time pservers, they only allowed you to equip 1 sniper. Because, snipers are ****ing strong, pretty much 1 shot 1 kill. And being able to spam that shit just takes away the realism and emersion of sniping on GunZ, if you have equip 2 that is. A sniper, 1 sinper rifle, a secondary like shotgun or a pistol. Would be cool to see things like that instead of Sniper/Sniper. I don't support snipers in clan war because, well, on here, its unbalanced.
Unbalanced because:
- You can equip two, and when that happens, its not sniping anymore, its just using rev/rev at harder difficulty. Just because its harder should not be an excuse to say it is balanced. It only seems balanced because its harder and there will be few people that can do it. But the higher up you get in skill levels, the less balanced it will seem because of this. A master at dual snipers will be more effective than a master at dual revs. And seeing some1 that good that actually mains dual sniper for years like how DStylers just never go back to KStyle for years, forever, it could happen. But the point is, when comparing weapons and balancing issues. Its about hte end game and what the weapons/players may actually be capable of doing with them. Just because you see a player thats legit pro with then does not take over the fact that at that higher skill level, they're unbalanced. I repeat, the only difference will be that it takes longer for sniper/sniper to reach the higher skill level, still, unbalanced.
- Now listen, the other thing is that your forcing certain weapons/playstyles to have a "solo ability" just as easy/functional as the meta weapon combo shotgun/shotgun. A Sniper rifle and a Sniper is a support playstyle/weapon by default and allowing it to shoot faster, allowing 2, allowing *cough cough quick scope cod QQ kids* cough cough random hard scope QQers on cod even though thats legit gameplay of a sniper* sigh... If you could only carry one sniper rifle, I could argue that it takes more skill teamwork wise, and more awesome legit/unique plays can come from this in clan war. Team work in GunZ is slowly drifting away the more solo ability you add to weapons. It already hard core drifted away when reload shot came into the meta gameplay. And people in TDMs can just do w/e the **** they way and go where ever because of that super hard core added solo ability.
In my book, you ain't no god damn sniper. Don't call yourself one. It just a player using sniper rifles. You can fight close range with them and do all those other random shit and spam them like shotguns and say people should stop qqing about it but its still unbalanced kids, its just harder. Still would respect anyone thats really good with it but facts are facts.
pls tell me u mistaken ur self.
Sniper + Sniper - Requers aim and you got delay before u can shoot so u cant spam rs like a shotgun, also -20% speed
Sniper + Spray - Results in just spraying fk because they cant hit sniper.
Sniper + Pistol - Easier then sniper+sniper but ok, reasonable since it isnt spraying fk
Also '' Shotguns are OP spray'' so u cant call sniper op since it requers fast aim.
Community: REMOVE SNIPERS BLABLA
-- weeks later --
Community: ADD SNIPERS BLABLA
QUIT IT ALREADY
You're ******ed if you think GunZ is a game to add snipers. There's only a few sniper games (Sniper: Ghost Warrior and Sniper Elite) and they have a really hard time making the gameplay decent.Quote:
snip·er (snpr)
n.
1. A skilled military shooter detailed to spot and pick off enemy soldiers from a concealed place.
2. One who shoots at other people from a concealed place.
Some one never used sniper. ^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
How can i know? Well.. Sniper isn't OP, People think it is because 2 hits is dead. 1. Scope 2. Aim 3. Shoot .4Zoom out( And you need to do it quick others you just get hit again)
Meanwhile u can get killed 999x. And you NEED to aim perfectly even better then a pistol.
The fact is shotgun is OP spray. And sniper requers skill/speed to use. So please use snipers once before u post here because you cant judge if you never used them.
Though I have not ever played this game, I have developed it quite a bit. I do know how snipers work, and I didn't state that they're more OP than shotguns (pserver) or spray weapons, but they're still OP compared to weapons GunZ should have (regular shotguns and revs) and therefore ruin the game as much as said OP weapons. Not to mention that they simply don't belong in GunZ.
Newsflash
Cw; Full donor clothes, 2x Donor ring, 1x Donor sword(or deadly katana more OP) 2xDonor sg ( most likely genesis& duelisto )
^ this is so not OP.
Yes its OP compared to the original stuff. But everyone uses donor in cw so it doesnt matter. Also they use donor meds so they can get 3 hits and still not die..
And sniper also is heavy another disadvantage less meds or w/e
snipers are detriment to gunz gameplay. sniper teams will pretty much camp by default and keep running. waiting for a lucky shot. if the enemy team has a sniper it means you'll have to play super safe at all times. any time you're not close to full (have you ever CW'd?) you'll be 1 shot by a sniper.
please **** off with your non arguments such as snipers have -20% speed. they don't. learn how the mechanics work then come have a chat again.
Because snipers don't belong in GunZ, their implementation was never finished by MAIET for a good reason. It's a whole different weapon that is much different from any other weapon (sword excluded). It then pretty much depends on whoever pulls his sniper and gets to aim first...
Duell tournament 1050 points just by using sniper, And the sad part? i chase people because they run from a sniper.
I believe some trash players camp with sniper yes.. But i've seen people just like me who rush with sniper. And it's not just a lucky shot because it DOES requer aim sad that you dont get that.
So please i beg you to use sniper for 30 minits then tell me if sniper is as easy as you think.
That's the thing try to aim with sniper pls. It's just 99x harder as u think.
If I go cw with a sniper and play defensively. we will beat pretty much every clan out there. snipers are OP when used defensively. and in CW you don't rush in general but try to win. snipers make for stagnant, boring gunz gameplay. regardless if they are OP or not.
If a person with a sniper camps they have a super little chanse of winning.
And in clanwar you usually stick so 2v1 sniper = Instant beat. The other team player wont have a teammate to cover him so he would die to. So whats the problem?
use snipers, tell me if it works
Spoiler!
You can try this sniper game if you like using snipers 8==D
Gunz is a game that is now only being played due to its fast paced action. Snipers provide none of this. Snipers provide you with stagnant gameplay. And should a half decent team decide to run a lot, they will beat pretty much everyone that is chasing them. Forcing the other team to camp to stand a chance. Lets assume my teammate is half decent. Any shot I hit with my sniper will almost always be a kill. The enemy team has to play extremely safe and CW is now boring. Snipers are OP as hell when used while running. Any time I miss a shot, my teammate will be able to get some damage in. The enemy team knows that any time they go for us without being at full hp/ap they are at risk of dying to 1 shot of my sniper.
Well.. People who dont HS RS or w/e with snipers most likely stand still yes. But isn't this a easy target for the other team?
Also, if they run you can shoot there backs. And when they camp you also can rape them easilly dont think u cant beat a sniper who camps because those are the bad snipers.
As i mentiont there are people who dont camp and are trash. I dont consider my self good or w/e but as i said ITS ME who chases people during Duelltourney with 2 snipers&rusty sword. So please dont think those sg's are pro because they are the real runners.
Cw 'Certain clan' that are using Snipers - 15 mins clanwars and lose some of them
Cw 'Certain clan' that aren't using snipers - 2 mins clanwars - 4-0 allday
I saw sniper as a ways and means of reducing the parity between great players and bad players. With the invention of snipers, bad players now had an equal chance against way better players. Now that sniper is gone, it's all fair again.
Dumb idea to let snipers back into cw
I'd rather use SGS than let kids run around back pedaling with snipers
This idea is more dumb than trying to readd ghost <-
Anyway. Why no OP snipers? 50% of cw's is vs unlegit SB sowho cares
I got a few records i can go record more in the future.
Me using snipers in duell tourney. People with SG's backpeddle not people with sniper ~ get ur facts straight k.
Snipers are not from the original GunZ.Clan war is.Done deal, no.
Helll nooo
Sniping might be fun but it just doesnt fit in clanwar . If they ever would put it back then make a seperate clanwar for snipers . Snipers just dont fit im gunz tbh its not ****ing call of duty lmao . Im glad so many ppl voted no and because you raged and acted ******ed people voted no.
You used started using the argument about fg's customized sg not being in the original gunz so dont start giving me shit.
and honestly who ever uses giant swords in cw, sniping was banned because it was being abused and the majority of the server did not approve of them in cw.
Look at all this kid's responses, just keeps saying it requers aim, w/e that is. After reading, I see people bring up decent arguments like how snipers will slow down the gameplay in GunZ, or like, how players in clan war have to play very cautious and I'm assuming people are saying that that alone leads to slower paced fights, nice 2v2 sg/sg close range mid range fights being interupted by the presence of a sniper.
This is sickening and sad that all this "Steff" person is doing is literally ignoring all the legitimate arguments and replying with his only defence, it requires aim. Man, if you can't hold a decent convo/argument and actually reply with strong defences to the opposing sides argument, then shut up dude, lol seriously lol.
^ this...
Oh bring the sniper back to clanwar, but make it so that it is lead only. So if someone brings a sniper to the clanwar they have to fight in lead system. Let's see how you kids, who say they have good sniper aim, win. Whoever said you cannot sb with snipers... is a dumbass. Idk why we keep making this poll when it has been denied in the past. Steff seriously stop.