Originally Posted by
Wucas
This is all speculating on the fact that there is no proof a religious deity exists. People continually ask "Why does God not show us himself, then everyone would believe," but really, wouldn't that take away what it means to be human: the ability to choose? Also, if we can just assume for a minute that there is a God, what has humanity done that deserves his attention? We are insignificant, yet demand audience with the creator of everything, isn't that just silly. The recordings of religious texts spanned over the course of thousands of years, cherry picking the best teachings and recording them as scripture. Also, the men listed as prophets and teachers were the best of the best, again, over the course of thousands of years. We are basing all our assumptions (in western culture at least) on 600 years of history, that is too small of a scale in which to discount thousands of years documented in religious texts.
None of the religions of today preach of a God who thrusts his likeness on the people, but has the people come to the deity, which coincides with the idea that God would not prove his existence to us. It is our duty, no our right as humans to be able to choose to accept his existence.
Also, since you brought up the Big Bang Theory, I would like to add I never said that I disagreed with that theory. The way the universe formed is not what I am discussing, it is whether it just happened or if "God" made it. In my mind science is simply the study of how everything was made by God. The Big Bang, Evolution, etc, does not discount religion, if anything, it solidifies it.
Going back to my last comment, this is still speculating that there is no proof religious deities exist. Back in the elder days humanity not only needed more guidance, it also was closer spiritually than we are today. science itself is as irrational as religion, basing all its beliefs on laws we do not fully understand as of now. If you really get down to it, what is rational and what is irrational, you cannot prove anything in this world. 'Reality' is simply our own observations, nothing more: nothing less.
It would be foolish to accept that God is held by the restrictions of time, seeing as he made the universe (which includes time...). Also note that 'day' is man made, the first 'day' could not of occurred until after the creation of the earth, occurring after light and dark were created, on the second 'day' listed in Genesis. God exists outside of this plane of existence, and thus 7 days is simply a metaphor for a unit of time. Ancient Hebrew has very few words that coincide with time as well, so day could easily be understood by all generation, separating the order in which things were created. The fact remains the importance of Genesis chapter 1 isn't the 'day', it is the order in which things were created.
The Hebrey word "tanniym/tanniyn", translated usually as "dragon/dragons" respectively are listed 28 times in the Old Testament. They are usually related to sea creatures. I don't see how this is related though, modern day society first discovered dinosaur fossils in 1822, and as I spoke of before, the 'days' in Genesis were completely metaphoric.
Irrelevant, god does not live in this plane of existence. Creating something he cannot lift would accept he is tied to our dimensions which cannot be true.
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