Pills & Vials - Nerf? Remove? Keep? Vote Today!

I'm having fun at some people talking about returning pmeds make it balanced again...please, every single player past lvl 50 (which is not hard to reach) had the ability to buy pills/vials, now only like 40% of the player base has the donation meds, which makes them somewhat overpowered over the others. How is that less unbalanced?
Also, on to the second note, if you really want to feel the old school style of gunz, then remove snipers, and barely add any customization options to non-donor players, because that's what ijji did and that's the biggest reason they are closed now.
All in all, servers need some freshment, the pills/vials were a really unique example of that, it added a new level to the gameplay, and made it much faster paced and less campy. To those saying that this has been like this since "only" V7...just telling you, that V7 has been out here for years, yes, literally years. I know that for a fact, because I've been here since 2009, seen a whole bunch of changes on this server, both client and community based, and as I can tell, this recent change has done no good for the majority of the server. Maybe delete vials and pills only in the competitive (CW) part of the game, so that the rest, more casual (e.g. non-donor) part who got used to having almost the same chances as the donor players?

vials and pills break the game no one wants to get healed in like 2 seconds and kill you with full fking health

Oh well lemme give a serious evaluation to this removal.
Firstly, vials and pills arent rly considered to be op since everyone has access to it. Its like saying the hp and ap armour gives is op. Well now, with the removal of pills and vials, whats the next best meds? Yes donor meds.
How is making donor meds the best meds making the game more competitive? This removal only benefits donaters. So ONLY those that donate will have access to this current OP med. Making donaters even more op, harder to die. Therefore, donaters will thus have much more advantage in this game making the game LESS COMPETITIVE. Therefore this DEFEATS THE PURPOSE of the removal. At least for shotguns, the lv 9x bounty guns have the same dmg as donor sg.
If this removal is to really make GunZ more competitive as you have claimed repeatedly, then allow everyone to have access to the donor med. Make a lv 90 med with the same stats as donor med. Or at least give 1yr donor meds to everyone (not just 30days. Its useless). If the game is still alive after 1year, people can decide whether to donate to get them or not. Otherwise this removal just seems like an underhanded way to extort more money out of this dying game.

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Originally Posted by Fearsome

Oh well lemme give a serious evaluation to this removal.
Firstly, vials and pills arent rly considered to be op since everyone has access to it. Its like saying the hp and ap armour gives is op. Well now, with the removal of pills and vials, whats the next best meds? Yes donor meds.
How is making donor meds the best meds making the game more competitive? This removal only benefits donaters. So ONLY those that donate will have access to this current OP med. Making donaters even more op, harder to die. Therefore, donaters will thus have much more advantage in this game making the game LESS COMPETITIVE. Therefore this DEFEATS THE PURPOSE of the removal. At least for shotguns, the lv 9x bounty guns have the same dmg as donor sg.
If this removal is to really make GunZ more competitive as you have claimed repeatedly, then allow everyone to have access to the donor med. Make a lv 90 med with the same stats as donor med. Or at least give 1yr donor meds to everyone (not just 30days. Its useless). If the game is still alive after 1year, people can decide whether to donate to get them or not. Otherwise this removal just seems like an underhanded way to extort more money out of this dying game.

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You're arguing that donation medical kits are better than store bought medical kits. NO ****ING SHIT. Same applies with donation shotguns over store bought shotguns, of course they will have an advantage, they need an advantage so people pay for them. IJJI was the same there was 'premium medical kits' that cost G-Coins.

Anyone arguing that they are a non-donor and it's unfair has an irrelevant argument point, since this could be used with any donation item, shotguns/rifles/snipers/swords etc so if that were the case then donation items should be removed all together, but then guess what the server will soon be closed, as the donations pay for the server to be online.

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Originally Posted by Notorious

You're arguing that donation medical kits are better than store bought medical kits. NO ****ING SHIT. Same applies with donation shotguns over store bought shotguns, of course they will have an advantage, they need an advantage so people pay for them. IJJI was the same there was 'premium medical kits' that cost G-Coins.

Anyone arguing that they are a non-donor and it's unfair has an irrelevant argument point, since this could be used with any donation item, shotguns/rifles/snipers/swords etc so if that were the case then donation items should be removed all together, but then guess what the server will soon be closed, as the donations pay for the server to be online.

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Firstly, no im not arguing that donor meds is btr than bounty meds. Im arguing abt the accessibility to the donor meds. As i mentioned earlier, lv90 shotgun have the same dmg as donor shotgun. So make lv 90 med same stats as donor med then. Furthermore, this removal is to benefit the whole community not just donaters as dave claimed ROFL. Pls read. Im lazy to repeat the same point agn and agn. Oh well seeing ur reply, seems like this removal is rly to get people to donate more.

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Originally Posted by KiritoOnline

vials and pills break the game no one wants to get healed in like 2 seconds and kill you with full fking health

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First of all, thats a huge exaggeration, nobody can heal to full in 2 seconds.
Second of all, you act like people can't shoot you when you're walking/healing at the same time? Um, hello? Yes they can, you can be healing and walking closer to them and you can still shoot them, most players have to back the f*ck up to med now because they don't want to med in an open place anymore.
Third of all, vials and pills don't "break the game", hacks and cheats break the game.

Your statement is beyond pathetic and does not prove anything except for the fact that you have no true understanding or ideology of strategic medding.

Remove the Pills and vials from shop and add them to donator shop with high price :o.o
So players will use them when they really need it
Or just disable vials and pills from clan wars
If they suggested dis shit before pls tell me
i aint reading 10 pages

I really can't think of a way to actually balance the vials/pills. You reduce it they're useless, you keep it the same they remain op. I remember when I first joined this server and everyone was playing with these vials and pills and I'm like "THE **** ARE THOSE". Then someone gave me my explanation and even then I thought the things were a bit ridiculous coming from a five year break. Coming back to a game where the play style went to literally anticipating a person's moves and knowing where to run, when to shoot, when to reload, and when to med yourself/teammates turned into "Lemme just pop this ap vial tank a few shots, pop a few pills and another vial I'm ready to spam reload shot with [R] in a normal game mode. (stillsalty)

I'm glad they got removed, they were annoying af.

First step is admitting you have a problem ya'll, stop doping up on vials and pills and use actual med kits to help your recovery process.

The current donor meds do seem a bit op to me though, reduce the clip to 5 or something idk i'm just a adele
hello its me

If they are SO OP, just add them on the Donation Shop and enjoy your big paycheck, Dave. I'm sure then, everyone will either pay for it and stop talking.

If you're bringing back the pills/vials to there normal state also buff the p meds cause all the people that have bought p meds have no use for them since pills/vials are easily better..