Gunz tournament

Hello all, I believe that there is a 2v2 tourney coming up. I'm not sure if this should be in suggestions or not so maybe move it if it is. I'm not sure if you guys are streaming it on twitch or not, but if you aren't you should totally stream it ! We recently broke 200 + players on our server and we have the strongest community and I'm sure everyone would come watch and support. I would definitely try and keep the momentum of players going while its still here! I've been seeing A LOT of new and old players in DMs and tdms etc. People are commenting on forums and discord saying stuff like :

"Im coming back to gunz after like 10 years and its the first time im experiencing anti-lead. Im wondering how people like it in 2023 compared to leading. Also has it ever been considered to lower the damage of shotguns to compensate for how quickly encounters can end with anti lead?"

and : "what up yall, I used to play on ijji gunz hella long ago and then on LG gunz after the official servers closed down, I've never been great at the game but have always enjoyed it alot. Saw kiddane streaming it on tiktok the other day and blew my mind that people were playing gunz again"


IDK about you but Kidane got 1.4M views on one of his 20 second videos he posted 4 days ago.. and the kid averages about 20-60k views on most of his gunz videos if we could even convert 2% of all viewers to players that'd be huge! I'm sure if you guys asked he might promote it we could literally hit record breaking numbers. Dave and Mscic on the mic ? jk jk lol. I think it'd be great for our small gunz community. What do you guys think ?? ;)

We're planning to stream some/all tournament matches. Also the replays of these matches will be made public once the tournament is over so some of you can make frag movie from it or just watch it for fun.

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Originally Posted by Beast

We're planning to stream some/all tournament matches. Also the replays of these matches will be made public once the tournament is over so some of you can make frag movie from it or just watch it for fun.

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On twitch? Whats the channels name? Will there be a castor? It isnt advertised very well i couldnt see that on the discord channel under tournament. Its not as fun watching it after the fact lol, i dont even watch. A lot of people dont use forum so itd help if admins were spamming it as an announcement in game if there will be a stream so people can be reminded

they def need to creatk fgunz twitch account at least for a tourney and stream matches , but they need to make 2-4 matches playing same day match after match like its usually do , so 1 stream could go like 1-2 hours at least 2-4 matches straight . dats not hard

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Originally Posted by degijas1

On twitch? Whats the channels name? Will there be a castor? It isnt advertised very well i couldnt see that on the discord channel under tournament. Its not as fun watching it after the fact lol, i dont even watch. A lot of people dont use forum so itd help if admins were spamming it as an announcement in game if there will be a stream so people can be reminded

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Whats said here is really important. If nobody knows about it then nobody will watch it.

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Originally Posted by lordo

they def need to creatk fgunz twitch account at least for a tourney and stream matches , but they need to make 2-4 matches playing same day match after match like its usually do , so 1 stream could go like 1-2 hours at least 2-4 matches straight . dats not hard

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Yes.. please! Fgunz discord server has 6k members and forum has 26k members, posting and reminding people that there will be a stream and to make sure to tune in every 2 days leading up to the tourney will bring so much hype. In game 200 players new and old, new players see this and itll make them stay for a little longer to maybe see what this competitiveness tourney is all about. Seeing real pros in action could motivate them to keep training. If we could get some tiktok people also, this could literally go viral i can totally see 500+ viewers, doesnt even have to be a huge cash prize at all. You can up the cash prize next tourney if it goes well.

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Originally Posted by Bunny

Whats said here is really important. If nobody knows about it then nobody will watch it.

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Facts lol if i had to make a general post about it and ask..

This is nearly impossible or will not have much results. The players will be setting their own date and time for their match, so every match will happen on a different day and time. I'm not gonna advertise, but the other servers set their own time and date for the whole tournament and they're all livestreamed. This would be a good option for the future tournaments on fgunz.

Even when everyone has a different timezone, it worked pretty well on the other servers. If the players are motivated to play they will show up.

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Originally Posted by UI_Yui?

This is nearly impossible or will not have much results. The players will be setting their own date and time for their match, so every match will happen on a different day and time. I'm not gonna advertise, but the other servers set their own time and date for the whole tournament and they're all livestreamed. This would be a good option for the future tournaments on fgunz.

Even when everyone has a different timezone, it worked pretty well on the other servers. If the players are motivated to play they will show up.

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VIP events tend to get hosted once a week around the same timezone in the weekends. This is because players would usually be more available to join at those weekends at a larger span of timezones since theres usually no work. What if we spanned the tournament over 3-4 weeks where each tournament round happened on a saturday/sunday?

If you would want to stream the matches and want people to watch it, then it's indeed better to have the whole tourny finished in the weekend with exact date and time. This is my opinion on how the tournys should be hosted, other people might disagree. You can always make a poll for this.

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Originally Posted by UI_Yui?

If you would want to stream the matches and want people to watch it, then it's indeed better to have the whole tourny finished in the weekend with exact date and time. This is my opinion on how the tournys should be hosted, other people might disagree. You can always make a poll for this.

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Yes i agree, have the whole tourney finished in one day if possible even if you had to skip a few matches. If its spread throughout a few days it wont be as hype imo. People watching will most likely tune in once, or only have the time to tune in once. It worked well for another server

Imo in the future should consider a marketing team or just 1 person that just purely loves the game thats good at marketing . Email marketing is very slept on by businesses, 26k accounts made on forum. Using something like mailchimp sending out emails about an fgunz tourney.. they usually ignore the first email but by the 3rd email you can 100% get some traction. We literally have the longest and largest player base on forums. Utilize it..

I think the numbers being thrown around here are blown way out of proportion, but there definitely needs some more "official" engagement for the tournament. In addition to earlier suggestions like official accounts on twitch/Youtube/tiktok etc and mass e-mails, maybe some type of trailer for it and small "FGunZ 2v2 Summer Tournament sign-ups are open!" banners on fgunz.net/the forums/discord/the launcher/in-game could also be done. Smaller servers have done more with less. Even just a thread to have a conversation about it would be great, imo restricting the announcement post just be for sign-ups is a waste. Why not let anyone post anything on-topic there? Just to have a hub for people to recruit a teammate if they don't have a partner or for spectators to express their hype for the event or for participants to talk trash. It can't possibly be that hard to sift through forum posts to find sign-ups, and if it does, it's better to use Google Forms for that type of thing anyway.

I don't mean to tell the staff how they should run their event but I think a tiny bit more effort can be put into it beyond just periodical server-wide announcements. I remember last year's 1v1 tournament, the most I got out of it was Tom streaming the final Aurelia vs Bart. He doesn't usually stream so he still wasn't used to it and the quality didn't come out great which was a shame because it was a great match.

Bet SunRui could make a dank 1-minute trailer using select replays from previous tourneys :o.o

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Originally Posted by Amamin

I think the numbers being thrown around here are blown way out of proportion, but there definitely needs some more "official" engagement for the tournament. In addition to earlier suggestions like official accounts on twitch/Youtube/tiktok etc and mass e-mails, maybe some type of trailer for it and small "FGunZ 2v2 Summer Tournament sign-ups are open!" banners on fgunz.net/the forums/discord/the launcher/in-game could also be done. Smaller servers have done more with less. Even just a thread to have a conversation about it would be great, imo restricting the announcement post just be for sign-ups is a waste. Why not let anyone post anything on-topic there? Just to have a hub for people to recruit a teammate if they don't have a partner or for spectators to express their hype for the event or for participants to talk trash. It can't possibly be that hard to sift through forum posts to find sign-ups, and if it does, it's better to use Google Forms for that type of thing anyway.

I don't mean to tell the staff how they should run their event but I think a tiny bit more effort can be put into it beyond just periodical server-wide announcements. I remember last year's 1v1 tournament, the most I got out of it was Tom streaming the final Aurelia vs Bart. He doesn't usually stream so he still wasn't used to it and the quality didn't come out great which was a shame because it was a great match.

Bet SunRui could make a dank 1-minute trailer using select replays from previous tourneys :o.o

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Great ideas! I think banners are great! You can have a banner in lobby in game and in forum under the "forum whats new and discord" could be like "gunz tourney august 31st! Twitch.tv/fgunz!! // new shotguns (insert names) in store!! // 50% off coins from aug 11th - 31st. " The numbers i stated are still very possible, fgunz has the longest standing community. Viewer count on twitch is what id be betting on. You can probably convert some of those viewers after 2 3 tourneys. 400- 600 viewers on twitch is not far fetched. If active players are watching which is around 180 200~ and the 26k even if you can get like .005% of old players to watch 400 to 600 is low. Yeah i remember having to ask aurelia who won lmao, but he was already wearing the shotgun. Id be more interested if sunrui was a castor LOL.

And btw these numbers are just for active players currently and forum accounts using email marketing. I havent even added in the amount of traction tiktok can bring. I think im undershooting hard imo.

I say that the numbers are inflated because even if we do at this event get everything right and we get a momentary bump in viewership and player engagement, the biggest hurdle is to keep those numbers. The biggest example of this, when everything went as well as it could have gotten, was when Kadai dropped this video. May 2021, EVERY gunz server got this wave of new players, lots of old players came out of their caves, a bunch of creators put out game content, streamers started streaming it. Fast forward to now, we're back to the state of GunZ before that video. Maybe we got 5 players from that era to stay.

I'm not really sold on making this a way to get more players, I think of it as just a way to get the current community something to do or look forward to. Making excitement around it for those of us right here, right now.

I forgot to mention this on my last post but credit where it is due, shoutout to the FGunZ team for shelling out that 100 USD prize money. Monetary compensation for doing well on top of the special items is always dope.

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Originally Posted by Amamin

Bet SunRui could make a dank 1-minute trailer using select replays from previous tourneys :o.o

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sunrui = sacrificial lamb?

i would but dont know if past have replay

edit: even if people wanted to send cw clips can make something work :)

nono SunRui not sacrificial lamb

SunRui = good shepherd who will save the sheep

(sheep = gunz players)


actually no need for others' footage just use your gameplay :4

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Originally Posted by Amamin

I say that the numbers are inflated because even if we do at this event get everything right and we get a momentary bump in viewership and player engagement, the biggest hurdle is to keep those numbers. The biggest example of this, when everything went as well as it could have gotten, was when Kadai dropped this video. May 2021, EVERY gunz server got this wave of new players, lots of old players came out of their caves, a bunch of creators put out game content, streamers started streaming it. Fast forward to now, we're back to the state of GunZ before that video. Maybe we got 5 players from that era to stay.

I'm not really sold on making this a way to get more players, I think of it as just a way to get the current community something to do or look forward to. Making excitement around it for those of us right here, right now.

I forgot to mention this on my last post but credit where it is due, shoutout to the FGunZ team for shelling out that 100 USD prize money. Monetary compensation for doing well on top of the special items is always dope.

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Okay so i watched the video and kadai is basically teaching people how to play and what you can do on gunz. You can say its like a instruction video/ or a history of gunz which is what we need also. But with these tourneys its a different type of marketing, were targeting new and old players yes, but the aim is different. As in we're taking a different approach advertising the tourney for example. After the 2v2 tourney you typically want to immediately announce the next tourney date 3v3 and 4v4 for example. This lets people who watched the 2v2 tourney know that theres another one coming up, maybe 2 3 months from now. They might stick around for that if they enjoyed the first tournament. within those 2 3 months is where you want to push your marketing and build the hype between contestants. Kadais video is great but no one did anything to keep the momentum going hence the new players left like they always do. There was nothing to look forward to and nothing to keep them motivated enough to keep playing, they tried gunz got stomped and left. If they watched a tourney they could be like

"hmm i really like the way this pro player is playing! I want to play like this player !!" or
"my favorite player is playing in the next tourney im excited to watch!"

boom now there's a motive. Also if we were to stream these tournaments i think GMs should gift everyone all the new shotguns / swords expiring in 1 day. So that players can mix and match and advertise those items on stream, people that are watching the stream can see what they look like in game.

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Originally Posted by degijas1

Okay so i watched the video and kadai is basically teaching people how to play and what you can do on gunz. You can say its like a instruction video/ or a history of gunz which is what we need also. But with these tourneys its a different type of marketing, were targeting new and old players yes, but the aim is different. As in we're taking a different approach advertising the tourney for example. After the 2v2 tourney you typically want to immediately announce the next tourney date 3v3 and 4v4 for example. This lets people who watched the 2v2 tourney know that theres another one coming up, maybe 2 3 months from now. They might stick around for that if they enjoyed the first tournament. within those 2 3 months is where you want to push your marketing and build the hype between contestants. Kadais video is great but no one did anything to keep the momentum going hence the new players left like they always do. There was nothing to look forward to and nothing to keep them motivated enough to keep playing, they tried gunz got stomped and left. If they watched a tourney they could be like

"hmm i really like the way this pro player is playing! I want to play like this player !!" or
"my favorite player is playing in the next tourney im excited to watch!"

boom now there's a motive. Also if we were to stream these tournaments i think GMs should gift everyone all the new shotguns / swords expiring in 1 day. So that players can mix and match and advertise those items on stream, people that are watching the stream can see what they look like in game.

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The title also says "this game couldve been the best esports" and in the video the has a section on why didnt gunz become an esports" if youre going to label it that people playing are going to remember that hey its a dead game.. but i still want to try.. this is why i say hire a marketing team.

If im selling an ipad case my hook is going to be something along the lines of "TURN YOUR IPAD INTO A MACBOOK." In gunz' case it could be like "THE NUMBER 1 GUN GAME" etc

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Theres a lot to marketing but i believe marketing is the backbone to any business. Its probably like 80% marketing 20% the rest lol, if you have the best pizza in the world but no one knows about it..

Have a countdown before tourney starts like league. 20 30 min countdown before the show begins. Get someone like vantae to come out for 20 30 mins and just teach new players the basics... or answer in questions in chat.

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Originally Posted by Amamin

nono SunRui not sacrificial lamb

SunRui = good shepherd who will save the sheep

(sheep = gunz players)


actually no need for others' footage just use your gameplay :4

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u ask i deliver teaser of wip

https://youtu.be/maq4z6Ejk9I

Sunrui for the clutch

get hype amamin x sunrui duo boutta win this whole thing

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u ask i deliver teaser of wip

https://youtu.be/maq4z6Ejk9I

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Wow very nice!!! Good work sunrui

So in marketing we would need a hook right at the beginning. So something like "THE.. NUMBER 1.. GUN GAME IN THE WORLD.." or " THE GREATEST GUN GAME OF ALL TIME" like you have to make it seem like we have a lot of active players even if we dont, you have to make it seem like we this is the best/safest gun game ever and thatd weve been hosting tourneys for decades . But realistically its up to the admins we dont even know if they streaming it yet lol no official announcement from mcsic or dave.

Blast that video out with a page made by admins to 26k forum users .. that alone is free or very minimal costs. Use tiktok and other social media all free just creating the content part.
Set up an analytics pages so you can see where the traffic is coming from and how many converted etc. Its a lot to explain thats why i said get a marketing team..

Nice edits tho sunrui good job :D

https://youtu.be/CBGEtxARLY4

still wip will finish when stuff finalized if there will be stream and whatever else zzz then staff free to use this if want w/o watermark

i bet 100 coins on hikari

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Originally Posted by degijas1

Wow very nice!!! Good work sunrui

So in marketing we would need a hook right at the beginning. So something like "THE.. NUMBER 1.. GUN GAME IN THE WORLD.." or " THE GREATEST GUN GAME OF ALL TIME" like you have to make it seem like we have a lot of active players even if we dont, you have to make it seem like we this is the best/safest gun game ever and thatd weve been hosting tourneys for decades . But realistically its up to the admins we dont even know if they streaming it yet lol no official announcement from mcsic or dave.

Blast that video out with a page made by admins to 26k forum users .. that alone is free or very minimal costs. Use tiktok and other social media all free just creating the content part.
Set up an analytics pages so you can see where the traffic is coming from and how many converted etc. Its a lot to explain thats why i said get a marketing team..

Nice edits tho sunrui good job :D

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Long time member here. On and off forum lurker & once in a blue moon I log ingame to rid the ol gunz itch. Just tonight I decided to unwind a lil after work with some quick gunz action and while I was having fun ****in around in a skill map training room, the wave of nostalgia hit me like a damn truck. Hell my whole gaming childhood memories just started flooding in lol!

Anyways I write this because these days I rarely check in and wanted to see the state of what fgunz was in. Glad to see theres still a community thriving with 100 players (atleast everytime I've gotten on the playercount was 100+).

The sentiments & want of revival that degijas and kadai have expressed is definitely what I've felt throughout the years about GunZ myself. And I bet it's what a lot of old gunz players feel as well.

What degijas said above is very true. It really just depends on what Dave & McSic want to do with this server. I wonder what their game plan is for FG in the long run. Do they see this server as end game? Or simply as a side hustle. Quite frankly I'm surprised this server is even still running. Hosting a server must cost money right? Does FG even still recieve donations? If not then why else keep this dying game/community alive? I'm not trying to stir up drama or raise hate towards them with any of this, I'm just genuinely curious about that stuff because if the goal was to collect a bag, then why wouldnt you do as much as possible to maximize earnings? I've always just been a player here, so I wouldn't know what the $ numbers are but yeah I just wonder if FG is even profitable/worth keeping alive.

Even so, I do believe GunZ can and should have a resurgence. I feel like gaming (competetive scene) is getting stale and GunZ is the perfect candidate to bring back the edge. Big games like League & Fortnite have gotten old with burnout (yes, just like gunz has) and these days I see big streamers just playing variety games rather than competitive ones. In short, I believe GunZ can have the momentum & organic growth much like Fortnite did, and we have the power to jumpstart that.

I have so much more to write but it's late night and I was just getting some lingering thoughts out. But I'll reinforce degijas's suggestion. It mostly depends on how Dave & McSic want to move foward with this server. If they want to raise the playerbase/community, they MUST invest in advertisement (just like any other business). But it also depends on us as well. We as a community need to be hungry enough to want to gain the amount of players that we seek (with user made content)

I have so many ideas and thoughts I want to share but I'ma keep it at that for this one. I'll have a more organized post sometime soon but yea Kappa

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Originally Posted by -AznNinja

Long time member here. On and off forum lurker & once in a blue moon I log ingame to rid the ol gunz itch. Just tonight I decided to unwind a lil after work with some quick gunz action and while I was having fun ****in around in a skill map training room, the wave of nostalgia hit me like a damn truck. Hell my whole gaming childhood memories just started flooding in lol!

Anyways I write this because these days I rarely check in and wanted to see the state of what fgunz was in. Glad to see theres still a community thriving with 100 players (atleast everytime I've gotten on the playercount was 100+).

The sentiments & want of revival that degijas and kadai have expressed is definitely what I've felt throughout the years about GunZ myself. And I bet it's what a lot of old gunz players feel as well.

What degijas said above is very true. It really just depends on what Dave & McSic want to do with this server. I wonder what their game plan is for FG in the long run. Do they see this server as end game? Or simply as a side hustle. Quite frankly I'm surprised this server is even still running. Hosting a server must cost money right? Does FG even still recieve donations? If not then why else keep this dying game/community alive? I'm not trying to stir up drama or raise hate towards them with any of this, I'm just genuinely curious about that stuff because if the goal was to collect a bag, then why wouldnt you do as much as possible to maximize earnings? I've always just been a player here, so I wouldn't know what the $ numbers are but yeah I just wonder if FG is even profitable/worth keeping alive.

Even so, I do believe GunZ can and should have a resurgence. I feel like gaming (competetive scene) is getting stale and GunZ is the perfect candidate to bring back the edge. Big games like League & Fortnite have gotten old with burnout (yes, just like gunz has) and these days I see big streamers just playing variety games rather than competitive ones. In short, I believe GunZ can have the momentum & organic growth much like Fortnite did, and we have the power to jumpstart that.

I have so much more to write but it's late night and I was just getting some lingering thoughts out. But I'll reinforce degijas's suggestion. It mostly depends on how Dave & McSic want to move foward with this server. If they want to raise the playerbase/community, they MUST invest in advertisement (just like any other business). But it also depends on us as well. We as a community need to be hungry enough to want to gain the amount of players that we seek (with user made content)

I have so many ideas and thoughts I want to share but I'ma keep it at that for this one. I'll have a more organized post sometime soon but yea Kappa

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In the end we're still a private server which severely limits on what we can do, including advertising. Also, GunZ has a significant learning curve which for most new players is just not acceptable.

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Originally Posted by -AznNinja

Long time member here. On and off forum lurker & once in a blue moon I log ingame to rid the ol gunz itch. Just tonight I decided to unwind a lil after work with some quick gunz action and while I was having fun ****in around in a skill map training room, the wave of nostalgia hit me like a damn truck. Hell my whole gaming childhood memories just started flooding in lol!

Anyways I write this because these days I rarely check in and wanted to see the state of what fgunz was in. Glad to see theres still a community thriving with 100 players (atleast everytime I've gotten on the playercount was 100+).

The sentiments & want of revival that degijas and kadai have expressed is definitely what I've felt throughout the years about GunZ myself. And I bet it's what a lot of old gunz players feel as well.

What degijas said above is very true. It really just depends on what Dave & McSic want to do with this server. I wonder what their game plan is for FG in the long run. Do they see this server as end game? Or simply as a side hustle. Quite frankly I'm surprised this server is even still running. Hosting a server must cost money right? Does FG even still recieve donations? If not then why else keep this dying game/community alive? I'm not trying to stir up drama or raise hate towards them with any of this, I'm just genuinely curious about that stuff because if the goal was to collect a bag, then why wouldnt you do as much as possible to maximize earnings? I've always just been a player here, so I wouldn't know what the $ numbers are but yeah I just wonder if FG is even profitable/worth keeping alive.

Even so, I do believe GunZ can and should have a resurgence. I feel like gaming (competetive scene) is getting stale and GunZ is the perfect candidate to bring back the edge. Big games like League & Fortnite have gotten old with burnout (yes, just like gunz has) and these days I see big streamers just playing variety games rather than competitive ones. In short, I believe GunZ can have the momentum & organic growth much like Fortnite did, and we have the power to jumpstart that.

I have so much more to write but it's late night and I was just getting some lingering thoughts out. But I'll reinforce degijas's suggestion. It mostly depends on how Dave & McSic want to move foward with this server. If they want to raise the playerbase/community, they MUST invest in advertisement (just like any other business). But it also depends on us as well. We as a community need to be hungry enough to want to gain the amount of players that we seek (with user made content)

I have so many ideas and thoughts I want to share but I'ma keep it at that for this one. I'll have a more organized post sometime soon but yea Kappa

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Thanks for this! Yeah nostalgia is the reason why i made this post.. i have tons of ideas also but it only goes as far as what the owners want and what they legally can do. Im not a lawyer, im probably better at marketing than i am a lawyer lol. But, i still think there are many little things we can do to bring the player count up organically.

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In the end we're still a private server which severely limits on what we can do, including advertising. Also, GunZ has a significant learning curve which for most new players is just not acceptable.

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I understand that there are terms and services/copy rights we cannot violate etc.. but what can we do?? We cant even stream our tournament that we host? Any lawyers in here ? Lol

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Originally Posted by degijas1

I understand that there are terms and services/copy rights we cannot violate etc.. but what can we do?? We cant even stream our tournament that we host? Any lawyers in here ? Lol

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Officially it's not allowed due to intellectual property & DMCA. You can find that in the Twitch terms of service as well. Of course the chances are slim they will outright ban the streams, plus a report would have to be filed (which are easy to fake).

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Originally Posted by Dave

Officially it's not allowed due to intellectual property & DMCA. You can find that in the Twitch terms of service as well. Of course the chances are slim they will outright ban the streams, plus a report would have to be filed (which are easy to fake).

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Ahh okay makes sense, so even if we sent out an email to our forum users would be deemed as illegal? Itd be a great tool when and if we came out with ladder. Also that other server that hosted those tourneys on twitch those are all illegal? Of course they didnt get big enough to get in trouble though.

On a second note have we tried to ask for permission from maiet to host a tourney live (as a private server) on stream? This would open a lot of doors.

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Originally Posted by degijas1

Ahh okay makes sense, so even if we sent out an email to our forum users would be deemed as illegal? Itd be a great tool when and if we came out with ladder. Also that other server that hosted those tourneys on twitch those are all illegal? Of course they didnt get big enough to get in trouble though.

On a second note have we tried to ask for permission from maiet to host a tourney live (as a priveate server) on stream? This would open a lot of doors.

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MAIET does not exist anymore, Masangsoft Inc owns it and it's practically impossible to reach out to them.

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Originally Posted by Dave

MAIET does not exist anymore, Masangsoft Inc owns it and it's practically impossible to reach out to them.

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Ah ok, yeah i took a 13 year break and came back to antilead in late 2020 so a lot had changed lol. How about the emails? Is it possible for us to reach our existing members atleast?

There are certain ways we can still target SEO when people search in google. If done right we can have our fgunz page in the first page.

Some of the things people search for:
"Which gun game is the best"
"What is the most popular gun game"
"Which is the best gun game in the world"
And a few more..

As long as we have certain key words we can trigger the algo lol
Yes its a steep learning curve but what we should aim for is to put gunz out there atleast..

FYI, the Bracket (https://challonge.com/SG2023) is open to predictions until we get the results for 1 match.
Feel free to make them via Challonge.

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Originally Posted by Dave

Officially it's not allowed due to intellectual property & DMCA. You can find that in the Twitch terms of service as well. Of course the chances are slim they will outright ban the streams, plus a report would have to be filed (which are easy to fake).

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What exactly CAN we do to advertise?
And is it worth the risk to advertise?

It looks like streaming is out because of risk to the streamer, but is it a risk for the server itself?

Basically is there anything we shouldn't do that would just outright cause the server to have to be shut down.

Something that's within my power is creating youtube videos on the game & server. Would doing this risk the server's operations?

Also I've never been on any other type of gunz forums or discords so I'm pretty out of the loop on the history, but it seems at the moment theres simply just drama between different private server owners n such. So an obvious threat would be other pservers, but how possible is it that masangsoft themselfs would come for us?

**also how are private servers even allowed to operate? lol. shouldnt they have legal action to take us down for just existing?

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**also how are private servers even allowed to operate? lol. shouldnt they have legal action to take us down for just existing?

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Private servers of any game are technically not allowed to operate. Although Masangsoft did express at one point that they're not really trying to take down private servers, iirc it was just an e-mail or discord message from an alleged contact person in Masangsoft like 3 years ago or something. Still, the likelihood of them taking any action against anything we do is honestly very slim (unless a miracle happens and we suddenly have a profitable playerbase) since I haven't heard them do anything even remotely related to GunZ in years.

I doubt any FG content will cause the server to shut down, so if you want to make more of that then there shouldn't be any problem.


Honestly the biggest problem we might have is not Masangsoft doing anything, it's other really really bad actors within the community itself, but that might be getting too off-topic.

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What exactly CAN we do to advertise?
And is it worth the risk to advertise?

It looks like streaming is out because of risk to the streamer, but is it a risk for the server itself?

Basically is there anything we shouldn't do that would just outright cause the server to have to be shut down.

Something that's within my power is creating youtube videos on the game & server. Would doing this risk the server's operations?

Also I've never been on any other type of gunz forums or discords so I'm pretty out of the loop on the history, but it seems at the moment theres simply just drama between different private server owners n such. So an obvious threat would be other pservers, but how possible is it that masangsoft themselfs would come for us?

**also how are private servers even allowed to operate? lol. shouldnt they have legal action to take us down for just existing?

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Random example of us advertising is that years ago we used to have a Facebook page with tens of thousands of likes and followers. We used to advertise through that for some time until it got taken down due to a fake copyright infringement/DMCA complaint.

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FYI, the Bracket (https://challonge.com/SG2023) is open to predictions until we get the results for 1 match.
Feel free to make them via Challonge.

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Predictions Closed (only 2 predictions wow okay...), anyhow we already have 1 match result do check the bracket since all the evidence for that match is uploaded there (cough Sunrui).

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Predictions Closed (only 2 predictions wow okay...), anyhow we already have 1 match result do check the bracket since all the evidence for that match is uploaded there (cough Sunrui).

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no predictions because 0 incentive to do it smart guy :o.o