Continuing work on Pavilion

Havent done a such a thread in ages.
So if anyone ever noticed, theres a map in the client, called "Pavilion_Alpha".
The alpha suffix is due to it being a unfinished map, as i couldnt make it as i had it in mind at the time i was making it.
Ive got the hang of maiets 3ds max plugins now, therefor making sets,avatarsand some map remakes.
Since creating textures isnt my strongest point it takes me quite a while to make sets ...
Anyways, this isnt about sets, its about pavilion getting remade and improved to how i wanted it to be.
So far i changed some smaller bits, i will add some more stuff to the map soon - including animations.

This is what ive got so far.
http://puu.sh/pYcP
^ Ingame graphics.

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Originally Posted by HellSniper

Havent done a such a thread in ages.
So if anyone ever noticed, theres a map in the client, called "Pavilion_Alpha".
The alpha suffix is due to it being a unfinished map, as i couldnt make it as i had it in mind at the time i was making it.
Ive got the hang of maiets 3ds max plugins now, therefor making sets,avatarsand some map remakes.
Since creating textures isnt my strongest point it takes me quite a while to make sets ...
Anyways, this isnt about sets, its about pavilion getting remade and improved to how i wanted it to be.
So far i changed some smaller bits, i will add some more stuff to the map soon - including animations.

This is what ive got so far.
http://puu.sh/pYcP
^ Ingame graphics.

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looks awesome, good luck with getting it done as you had it in mind!

Looks like a do-Jo or a Monks living quarters! Looks great! keep up the good work!

Nice work Hell. Looks like its coming together nicely.
Good luck with getting the outcome you're hoping for :D

Cannot wait to see the final result :).

can we enter inside those houses?

Max Render
http://puu.sh/qcZI

Lovely quality except for the water and/or the lilly pads.

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Originally Posted by HellSniper

Max Render
http://puu.sh/qcZI

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That looks like you rendered it from orthographic view O_O?

Yes i did, its just a max render not the actual ingame look.
Have to sort a texture problem out before posting ingame pics.

@Pirate, the water texture is only a placeholder.

so if i read ur first post correctly we arent tied to gtkradiant anymore? cus that would solve like 90% of my mapping problems (invisible walls, odd textures and shadows) :4
is that plugin widly spread or can you provide it to fgunz users :P ?

The max plugin is available on Rage Zone.
However, youd just face even more problems without knowing the general idea how maiet build their maps.
Besides, the light generating is a seperate tool by maiet, didnt see a compiled version uploaded so youd have to get the source and compile the tool yourself, or ask someone who has it.
Now, i could put everything together and release a huge guide on how to make maps with max, yet there still are some odd problems occouring.
For example i have one object that at a certain height has no texture ingame and also wont play the sound effects added to the material.
Remaking, a whole new shape etc. did not work, moving it down a bit atleast lets the texture show up properly ingame.
Youd also not know how the shaders work etc ;) (unless you read the stuff thats in the source).
For now i suggest to get some maps done in radiant and later, upon releasing my guide, porting the maps with max.
(Though there would be some work to do, not just export and importing and exporting through max).

I though so that it was just a temporary texture.

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Originally Posted by HellSniper

The max plugin is available on Rage Zone.
However, youd just face even more problems without knowing the general idea how maiet build their maps.
Besides, the light generating is a seperate tool by maiet, didnt see a compiled version uploaded so youd have to get the source and compile the tool yourself, or ask someone who has it.
Now, i could put everything together and release a huge guide on how to make maps with max, yet there still are some odd problems occouring.
For example i have one object that at a certain height has no texture ingame and also wont play the sound effects added to the material.
Remaking, a whole new shape etc. did not work, moving it down a bit atleast lets the texture show up properly ingame.
Youd also not know how the shaders work etc ;) (unless you read the stuff thats in the source).
For now i suggest to get some maps done in radiant and later, upon releasing my guide, porting the maps with max.
(Though there would be some work to do, not just export and importing and exporting through max).

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Thanks for your fast reply,
as a mather of a fact ive been mapping quite some time every now and then in the past 2 years, but the main problem everytime is that he just doesnt finish rendering at all (20h+, instead of 5-15mins) or odd shit starts to appear.

for example:
sgc: which i coulnd't release the end product for it has to many bugs (most solved, new ones apear).
PC (Personalcomputer)
unnamed (sugested: PickX)
and many more which i never uploaded for the same reasons

Odd things happen to all the maps i make... or rather started on, and never finished for they bugged like hell (*idee new host: "buggedmap-GunZ" , i could supply plenty of em).

I really enjoyed maping tho (altho im not rlly good at it).



But some more on topic, it think it now looks a billion times better then in gtk-rad, would have loved it to play on it but i quitted playing gunz quite some time ago.
looking forward to more maps made/upgraded with this program.

Off-topic @ silentsoul : it you got bugs, test your maps out without lightmap first and try to fix your bugs.

On topic : Ever though about making the island in the middle lil rounder like I suggested or does that become terrible/bugged/glitched?

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Originally Posted by StephanM

Off-topic @ silentsoul : it you got bugs, test your maps out without lightmap first and try to fix your bugs.

On topic : Ever though about making the island in the middle lil rounder like I suggested or does that become terrible/bugged/glitched?

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Haha! The nib made a box and bevel'd it :D Now I see :)

I thing rounder would be better looking, though I think for the gameplay this works better?

@hellsniper, just make a cylinder and bevel it and then weld the smaller circle edges to a square and show us how that looks like :>

http://puu.sh/qx3m
Bitches pls, also solved my problems, something corrupted some stuff, ingame pics later.

Dbl post, sue me.
Ingame shots.
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Milan0r/1.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Milan0r/2.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Milan0r/3-2.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Milan0r/4-2.jpg

/Sue'd on request.

Looking good! I should hop off Radiant I guess :3.

What about beveling the corners from the square? I think its to round to be legit right now, play around with the faces :D

Looks good though, doing sam gret job ter meng.

Oh is it possible if you re-created a map of a game ( teanchu z )

It could be epic to go from roof to roof.

I can do anything i want, its merely a matter of if i want to.
Besides, jumping around roofs, kinda large scaled map then with only mediocre details.

@Slug, why D:?

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Originally Posted by HellSniper

I can do anything i want, its merely a matter of if i want to.
Besides, jumping around roofs, kinda large scaled map then with only mediocre details.

@Slug, why D:?

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Would you be intrested if i would design a map on paper scane it and send it to you,Maby you want to make it reall as a small project.

Got alot of design's in my head.

I really love it. but it looks like there is almost no water. wouldn't it look slightly better if the water was a little higher?

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Originally Posted by Teresa

Would you be intrested if i would design a map on paper scane it and send it to you,Maby you want to make it reall as a small project.

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Let me finish my stuff first, otherwise the sets etc will be dragged on too.

@pikachu, ofc i could move the water up so its more visible, however, youd be like shoulder deep in then at the lowest point :/
Dislike a camera poking through the water.

Edit:
Here's 2 pics, lowest and highes point you can stand while still counting to be in the water.
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Milan0r/5-1.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Milan0r/6-1.jpg

I always said: Hellsniper is king of making maps! I mean it!

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I always said: Hellsniper is king of making maps! I mean it!

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Haha, its kinda true that me and warren always had abouve avarage stuff ...
Anyways, i hate it, always get good ideas but then i encounter a problem.
This time its, dont find fitting textures to use for the interior part.
Although i kinda sticked to the gunz textures, they are limited, dont want photorealistic/stock photos though.
Plus, some of my stuff to fill the map kinda seem out of place thinking about them now :/ ... so basically my imagination is blocked and its anoying me.

Water smexy like always </3.

Lamps!
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Milan0r/7.jpg

Wanted to see how some texture swaps and the plants from island would look like, not a fan of it.
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Milan0r/8.jpg

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Originally Posted by HellSniper

I can do anything i want, its merely a matter of if i want to.
Besides, jumping around roofs, kinda large scaled map then with only mediocre details.

@Slug, why D:?

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Because this looks to unrealistic :|?

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Lamps!
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Milan0r/7.jpg

Wanted to see how some texture swaps and the plants from island would look like, not a fan of it.
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Milan0r/8.jpg

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im also not a fan of those plants.. also only one side of the lamp is lighted.. isnt that a bit cheap? :P they look more like lanterns so all sides should be lighted right?

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Originally Posted by slugheady

Because this looks to unrealistic :|?

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Oh hey, lets run 4 meter on the wall, magically climb any wall by smashing our weapons against it, pull items out of our asses!
(Gunz in a nutshell, copyright by me)
Srsly though, meh, dont feel like remaking the collision for that part, thats why :P

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im also not a fan of those plants.. also only one side of the lamp is lighted.. isnt that a bit cheap? :P they look more like lanterns so all sides should be lighted right?

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Only placed one light for now (obviously copy&pastad all other lamps/lanterns (dont give a shit :P))

Remove the plants.
Try make the lamps a little transparent -> lil more lamp realistic ?

Small update, my workflow is slowing down recently.
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t.../max_scene.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Milan0r/9.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Milan0r/10.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Milan0r/11.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Milan0r/12.jpg

Epic stones!
But on the last image the most left one looks weird/funny :).

hi make a small hole in the sky so we can run on top of the map pls '-'

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Originally Posted by -AznNinja

hi make a small hole in the sky so we can run on top of the map pls '-'

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The map isnt designed for that, even if id make changes now the map would get to messy and big.

Added some pots as fillers.
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Milan0r/13.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Milan0r/14.jpg

Me gusta!

Sniper ur the best Developer i know :D

Im not, im just ivesting more time than others.
Anyways, working on the animations now.
Lamps will move as following:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oV0mJ6Exx8

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Originally Posted by HellSniper

Im not, im just ivesting more time than others.
Anyways, working on the animations now.
Lamps will move as following:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oV0mJ6Exx8

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the map is totally different now .. just amazing !

Gusta :)

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Originally Posted by HellSniper

Small update, my workflow is slowing down recently.
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t.../max_scene.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Milan0r/9.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Milan0r/10.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Milan0r/11.jpg
http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t342/Milan0r/12.jpg

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I think it looks very good though you are kinda overdoing the stones... Remove some if you ask me.

Gj =D