Screenshots of beating people who are now banned!

Post screenshots here if you have beaten unlegits :3. Also add what they were banned for.
It's just to show that unlegits are not unstoppable. Most of them don't play smart when using programs. :). Have some hope, regular players!


ESP/Shotbotter Fractal:
http://imageshack.us/a/img32/2140/c6ow.jpg

Chilling banned for SB.
http://imageshack.us/a/img23/7656/ktc6.jpg

UNDERCLOCKA banned for aimfix.
http://imageshack.us/a/img703/2912/b4ye.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img14/206/56eo.jpg

Employee banned for shotbot/ESP.
http://imageshack.us/a/img571/9522/wz64.jpg

Machine banned three/four times for ESP/shotbot.
http://imageshack.us/a/img138/4606/el86.jpg

KingSon(Darwin) the UCer.
http://imageshack.us/a/img534/9490/en7r.jpg

Johnny was banned for ddos 8D

Loss of time...
Seriously...!

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Originally Posted by LiveStepFreakz

Loss of time...
Seriously...!

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$112.5+ dollars...
Loss of money...
Seriously...!

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Originally Posted by Johnny

$112.5+ dollars...
Loss of money...
Seriously...!

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1st - I'm helping the server development and also to keep it online (a server isn't cheap)
2nd- I've got my own reasons (If you check the 3rd donation details), but not also for that.

/Logic

GG, buddy.

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Originally Posted by LiveStepFreakz

1st - I'm helping the server development and also to keep it online (a server isn't cheap)
2nd- I've got my own reasons (If you check the 3rd donation details).
/logic

GG, buddy.

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Yeah and clan warring to attract more players doesn't help the server either?
/logic

In the end, active competition causes more donations from players.

GG, buddy.

20-0


hh

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Originally Posted by Johnny

Yeah and clan warring to attract more players doesn't help the server either?
/logic

In the end, active competition causes more donations from players.

GG, buddy.

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I'm not much a fan of clan warring (not a clan warring type), so what's the point?

P.S. I guess you don't read my threads often, do you...?

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Originally Posted by LiveStepFreakz

I'm not much a fan of clan warring (not a clan warring type), so what's the point?

P.S. I guess you don't read my threads often, do you...?

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I honestly do not even know who you are :P.
Anywho, what's the point of gaming and spending as much money as YOU did for the game if you're going to play in training rooms all day?
O_O.

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Originally Posted by Johnny

I honestly do not even know who you are :P.
Anywho, what's the point of gaming and spending as much money as YOU did for the game if you're going to play in training rooms all day?
O_O.

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Did you EVEN see me before saying I play all day in Training rooms? (Which is not the case)
If not, think twice of what you're willing to say next.

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Originally Posted by LiveStepFreakz

Did you EVEN see me before saying I play all day in Training rooms? (Which is not the case)
If not, think twice of what you're willing to say next.

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Is a TDM not training your aim/movement and whatnot...
same thing.. .-.

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Originally Posted by Johnny

Is a TDM not training your aim/movement and whatnot...
same thing.. .-.

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I just play for fun, roaming from room to room. Compared to many other finding a 32 player game to make their show offs. (Which I'm not).
I'm just here to pass time, make some Skype contacts (especially for music prod.), etc.
But I'm not stupid enough to get people mad and TAUNT the shit outta everyone (even if sometimes I do get people mad, not my fault).
I obviously know what you're gonna say for the phrase above, it's a shooting game, it has competition. But still, they can compete each other without taunting (which is obviously stupid).

So the conclusion on ALL this is, I'm here for fun. I've been here since almost two years (where the server was friendly, by that time, which isn't anymore. But who cares? I don't).
Also, yeah! For sure there are laggers, shotbotters and DDOSers, etc. But still the fact of why losing time posting it?

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Originally Posted by LiveStepFreakz

I just play for fun, roaming from room to room. Compared to many other finding a 32 player game to make their show offs. (Which I'm not).
I'm just here to pass time, make some Skype contacts (especially for music prod.), etc.
But I'm not stupid enough to get people mad and TAUNT the shit outta everyone (even if sometimes I do get people mad, not my fault).
I obviously know what you're gonna say for the phrase above, it's a shooting game, it has competition. But still, they can compete each other without taunting (which is obviously stupid).

So the conclusion on ALL this is, I'm here for fun. I've been here since almost two years (where the server was friendly, by that time, which isn't anymore. But who cares? I don't).
Also, yeah! For sure there are laggers, shotbotters and DDOSers, etc. But still the fact of why losing time posting it?

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o_O.

Have fun with the game and stop complaining maybe?

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Originally Posted by Johnny

o_O.

Have fun with the game and stop complaining maybe?

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I'm not complaining, I'm just explaining what you just did.
Besides, I hope you know what I'm trying to tell.

why u guys play with low graphics or is it that it happens when u take ss

Wait is darwin banned ?

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Originally Posted by Miko pls

Wait is darwin banned ?

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Apparently yes, but we would've known even without his pictures. (You can look the Hacker & Player Reports section).

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Originally Posted by LiveStepFreakz

Apparently yes, but we would've known even without his pictures. (You can look the Hacker & Player Reports section).

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nop but he shuld be :@

video by phanta shows all.

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Originally Posted by Johnny

nop but he shuld be :@

video by phanta shows all.

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Sorry if I got you mad... But, just to know, how much video did Phanta make and how long were they? (If he made several, ofc)
Give the link(s), if you know it/them.

af j0hnny so n3wb plis st0p h3k

Underclocka was banned for sb and not aimfix
Besides why are you so excited over a few ss's from cw's? I've beaten shotbotters and ucers on a daily basis when I was still go at 1v1s, I've even smacked darwin 11-2 and 11-5
Prove your point in a 1v1 not in cw's where you've got carried most of the time

I can also post ss's Of you which I have shitloads of them losing to me in clan wars and accusing me with sb and just say "johnny banned for ddos 8D" pointless thread, quit gunz you get carried 24/7

@LiveStepFreakz, that big chair you think you sit in, from high up there, is just imaginary. Where did the attitude come from?

Smacked u son gimme ur acc already nob
Btw alycia here

I'm a fan.

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Originally Posted by slugheady

@LiveStepFreakz, that big chair you think you sit in, from high up there, is just imaginary. Where did the attitude come from?

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To be honest, to the question you're asking, I don't really have the answer to it simply because I don't know...
It's maybe a grown up habit (which obviously 3/4 people aren't mentally grown up) and which I have when I get kinda pissed/explanatory.

http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/.../Gunz005-4.jpg
http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/.../Gunz001-1.jpg
http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Sr...ml?sort=3&o=61

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Originally Posted by Astha

Smacked u son gimme ur acc already nob
Btw alycia here

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nice one reported for esp and shotbot :@

banned.

wtf i got employee banned like 1 year+ ago??
how do ppl get unbanned so quick lol

Not bad for someone experience :)

kid u think ur good? ill destroy you ez johnny gone and forgotten filipino
cus strait is back and ready to slap

jk sickkunt wow im amazed by ur skillz

lift some weights and get shredded johnny ez

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Originally Posted by strait

kid u think ur good? ill destroy you ez johnny gone and forgotten filipino
cus strait is back and ready to slap

jk sickkunt wow im amazed by ur skillz

lift some weights and get shredded johnny ez

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ease XDDDDD

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Originally Posted by strait

kid u think ur good? ill destroy you ez johnny gone and forgotten filipino
cus strait is back and ready to slap

jk sickkunt wow im amazed by ur skillz

lift some weights and get shredded johnny ez

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If I were you, I'd shut your trap! It's just a game and you take it so serious, and if you want to take it to that point, just take the door slowly, close it and leave gently.
(To be honest, I was going to say something else, being rude, but I can remain calm...)

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Originally Posted by LiveStepFreakz

If I were you, I'd shut your trap! It's just a game and you take it so serious, and if you want to take it to that point, just take the door slowly, close it and leave gently.
(To be honest, I was going to say something else, being rude, but I can remain calm...)

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ok kid

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Originally Posted by LiveStepFreakz

Did you EVEN see me before saying I play all day in Training rooms? (Which is not the case)
If not, think twice of what you're willing to say next.

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nobody gotta think twice bout nothing you speak as if you have our respect
/nextlevelgaming

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Originally Posted by Underground

nobody gotta think twice bout nothing you speak as if you have our respect
/nextlevelgaming

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This is maybe ''Next Level Gaming'' to you, but there's two ways this works! You play to have fun OR you get addicted and much aggressive/mad, not only verbally, but also mentally.
And I don't care of respect, truth pisses off people because they know I can counter whatever everyone says, which pisses off EVEN MORE people!
By the way, I don't respect the ones which does the same for me! (This works also both ways!)
Plus, nobody said I OWE you respect, neither should you. I only respect those who respects me in return.

Not happy? Just stop checking/replying this thread!!

Thanks, have a good day!

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Originally Posted by KingSR

http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/.../Gunz005-4.jpg
http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/.../Gunz001-1.jpg
http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Sr...ml?sort=3&o=61

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lmfao im not even unlegit gtfo
2009 ss??

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Originally Posted by LiveStepFreakz

This is maybe ''Next Level Gaming'' to you, but there's two ways this works! You play to have fun OR you get addicted and much aggressive/mad, not only verbally, but also mentally.
And I don't care of respect, truth pisses off people because they know I can counter whatever everyone says, which pisses off EVEN MORE people!
By the way, I don't respect the ones which does the same for me! (This works also both ways!)
Plus, nobody said I OWE you respect, neither should you. I only respect those who respects me in return.

Not happy? Just stop checking/replying this thread!!

Thanks, have a good day!

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...
this is a gaming forums.
and youre talking so professionally as if this was your job resume

pls
go away? :|

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Originally Posted by Johnny

...
this is a gaming forums.
and youre talking so professionally as if this was your job resume

pls
go away? :|

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Wait hold on, let me like this.

*Like*

...

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Originally Posted by Johnny

...
this is a gaming forums.
and youre talking so professionally as if this was your job resume

pls
go away? :|

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For sure I could go away from this thread, EXCEPT if there's some dumb hotshots coming to say sh!t on the forums.
As for leaving the game, never going to happen, EVEN if there's some sh!thead trying (hard) to make their show offs.

And please, don't try taking my decisions! I do whatever I want without being such a trouble maker, like most people here.

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Originally Posted by LiveStepFreakz

This is maybe ''Next Level Gaming'' to you, but there's two ways this works! You play to have fun OR you get addicted and much aggressive/mad, not only verbally, but also mentally.
And I don't care of respect, truth pisses off people because they know I can counter whatever everyone says, which pisses off EVEN MORE people!
By the way, I don't respect the ones which does the same for me! (This works also both ways!)
Plus, nobody said I OWE you respect, neither should you. I only respect those who respects me in return.

Not happy? Just stop checking/replying this thread!!

Thanks, have a good day!

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Learn to play good without getting addicted like me
/nextlevelgaming
/SQUAD

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Originally Posted by Underground

Learn to play good without getting addicted like me
/nextlevelgaming
/SQUAD

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Sorry to say, but the Slash - Whatever you put are pointless. I doesn't mean nothing at all.

Enough with the off topic bullshit. If you want to fight go on skype or something else.

Wow good job mate!

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Originally Posted by Steph

lmfao im not even unlegit gtfo
2009 ss??

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"im not even unlegit"

*giggle* ya ok

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Originally Posted by LiveStepFreakz

Sorry to say, but the Slash - Whatever you put are pointless. I doesn't mean nothing at all.

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dont gotta be sorry i already know they pointless

/Jelly School
/SQUAD
/SK1LLZ
/bad comeback

Wow, seriously. I didn't know you were dumb to that point of repeating your stuff like a parrot... (Seems like it anyways)

Btw, go watch your South Park, vulgar kid.

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Originally Posted by LiveStepFreakz

Wow, seriously. I didn't know you were dumb to that point of repeating your stuff like a parrot... (Seems like it anyways)

Btw, go watch your South Park, vulgar kid.

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lol only kid around here is the newgen im speaking too

/300
/SQUAD

o my fokn prozorDs t.......t

300 victorius duels and clanwars
and you can start considering yourself
a pro but ofcoarse along the way
you stop thinking all about that,starts
beating it's point but then some newgen
walks in thinking he doesnt have to earn
respect and hits anything he believes is
weaker than him but than after I start to
know a pro is what I am.

/ 1 PUNCH KO

<-- donated over $140 dollars, both dropped gg.

nice ss's johnny.

I do this everyday, Eye's closed.

Too bad you are bad too =].

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Originally Posted by Aroma

Too bad you are bad too =].

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I'm usually nice but will you shut the **** up.
http://gyazo.com/ef694160297c782e173ffca6fd2c3ef4

You beat someone on my account, CONGRATULATIONS. I play diff server bro.

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Originally Posted by Aroma

You beat someone on my account, CONGRATULATIONS. I play diff server bro.

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Dat excuse doe
I asked if you were jordan and you said yes
Let alone you calling me fake to everyone you piece of shit, I have a lot of fanboys (no cockiness intended) and the one person on that server you play on with the clan longsword is my fanboy you trash

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Originally Posted by Taint

Dat excuse doe
I asked if you were jordan and you said yes
Let alone you calling me fake to everyone you piece of shit, I have a lot of fanboys (no cockiness intended) and the one person on that server you play on with the clan longsword is my fanboy you trash

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Grats on the win, XD. Jordan is still my King.

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Originally Posted by Johnny

Grats on the win, XD. Jordan is still my King.

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Thanks and quit ass licking, no offence

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Originally Posted by Taint

Thanks and quit ass licking, no offence

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HES MY KING even tho I 4-0 him and amulet menyyy times hh

And HOW AM I GETTIN CARRIED IN THESE SCREENSHOTS wat. Most dmg best score wtf m8?!?! Jk.

You guys have gone way off topic, and done nothing but argue. Please move to rage/ego if you wish to continue this argument.

Getting back on topic, of course you can still beat the unlegits, it just all depends on how you plan to beat them. Sb'ers have a shotbot ( clearly ) But when using a shot bot, sometimes you can miss your rs, and area that you originally want to hit. I am glad that these players have been banned however, not sure what type of rep they are getting by using these programs because everyone eventually becomes caught.

Wow someone pretended to be me? And im not in longsword whatever that is. Also idk why you are talking smack when you get smacked every god damn cw kid. Ill go on my acc on fg i guess and smack you now.

Plsssss johnny plssss huhu haha hehe all bad all all all seriously all

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Originally Posted by Aroma

Wow someone pretended to be me? And im not in longsword whatever that is. Also idk why you are talking smack when you get smacked every god damn cw kid. Ill go on my acc on fg i guess and smack you now.

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Funny thing is I haven't played in 4 weeks apart from that recent 1v1, went on to **** you up and leave, besides why make bullshit up? I'd be happy to 1v1 you again and trah you, ****ing cun t, I'll be playing on thursday doe, trash
I'll get the ss's of you calling me fake and that you, yourself play in longsword you shitgen

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Originally Posted by Taint

Funny thing is I haven't played in 4 weeks apart from that recent 1v1, went on to **** you up and leave, besides why make bullshit up? I'd be happy to 1v1 you again and trah you, ****ing cun t, I'll be playing on thursday doe, trash
I'll get the ss's of you calling me fake and that you, yourself play in longsword you shitgen

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True omg true

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Originally Posted by Taint

Funny thing is I haven't played in 4 weeks apart from that recent 1v1, went on to **** you up and leave, besides why make bullshit up? I'd be happy to 1v1 you again and trah you, ****ing cun t, I'll be playing on thursday doe, trash
I'll get the ss's of you calling me fake and that you, yourself play in longsword you shitgen

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Uh okay, it wasnt even me ive been on diff server fro 3 weeks now.

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Originally Posted by Aroma

Uh okay, it wasnt even me ive been on diff server fro 3 weeks now.

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still bad

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Originally Posted by U_Eat_PoOp

still bad

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Y u mad doe random?

May I ask for u 2 to stop flaming Each other. It's off topic and flooding the thread. Thanks. You guys could always pm or go Ingame

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Originally Posted by Jaime Pls

May I ask for u 2 to stop flaming Each other. It's off topic and flooding the thread. Thanks. You guys could always pm or go Ingame

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I blame taint. ggwp hf

Idk who's fault it is. Id simply appreciated if it would stop.

Most of my screenshots were in my old computer, but I got some here huehue
^1p0weR^9anGe^F - ESP
http://i42.tinypic.com/2ko9wh.jpg
Horace - Shotbot
http://i42.tinypic.com/148c3k.jpg
Skeleton - Underclocking
http://i43.tinypic.com/fdd5i0.jpg
Farewell - ESP
http://i41.tinypic.com/2wh01o2.jpg
Consult - Shotbot
http://i39.tinypic.com/j9y1d5.jpg
VisualJew aka LimitAim - ESP
http://i43.tinypic.com/14m6hj8.jpg
Eternal aka Smash - Shotbot
http://i41.tinypic.com/2z732ba.jpg
TopTeam - ESP
http://i42.tinypic.com/ngessw.jpg

Nothing special but just felt like posting jajaja

I remember TopTeam egoing me at a dif GunZ server, smacked him in cw and he called me sb jJAJAJAJA

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Originally Posted by Ommadawn

Most of my screenshots were in my old computer, but I got some here huehue
^1p0weR^9anGe^F - ESP
http://i42.tinypic.com/2ko9wh.jpg
Horace - Shotbot
http://i42.tinypic.com/148c3k.jpg
Skeleton - Underclocking
http://i43.tinypic.com/fdd5i0.jpg
Farewell - ESP
http://i41.tinypic.com/2wh01o2.jpg
Consult - Shotbot
http://i39.tinypic.com/j9y1d5.jpg
VisualJew aka LimitAim - ESP
http://i43.tinypic.com/14m6hj8.jpg
Eternal aka Smash - Shotbot
http://i41.tinypic.com/2z732ba.jpg
TopTeam - ESP
http://i42.tinypic.com/ngessw.jpg

Nothing special but just felt like posting jajaja

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Finally someone contributed with screenshots :P.
Still bad ben zona :@.

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Originally Posted by Ommadawn

Most of my screenshots were in my old computer, but I got some here huehue
^1p0weR^9anGe^F - ESP
http://i42.tinypic.com/2ko9wh.jpg
Horace - Shotbot
http://i42.tinypic.com/148c3k.jpg
Skeleton - Underclocking
http://i43.tinypic.com/fdd5i0.jpg
Farewell - ESP
http://i41.tinypic.com/2wh01o2.jpg
Consult - Shotbot
http://i39.tinypic.com/j9y1d5.jpg
VisualJew aka LimitAim - ESP
http://i43.tinypic.com/14m6hj8.jpg
Eternal aka Smash - Shotbot
http://i41.tinypic.com/2z732ba.jpg
TopTeam - ESP
http://i42.tinypic.com/ngessw.jpg

Nothing special but just felt like posting jajaja

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Look at how old the ss is, and when I got banned for Sb hurrhurr.

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Originally Posted by Destruct

Look at how old the ss is, and when I got banned for Sb hurrhurr.

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If you got banned why are you still here. oO. You basically just admitted to shotbotting.
*aff whatever nvm.

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Originally Posted by Johnny

If you got banned why are you still here. oO. You basically just admitted to shotbotting.
*aff whatever nvm.

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If you got banned for DDoS'ing why were you ban avoiding and lurking the forums on another account? I did have Sb on my pc but I didn't use it in the replay I got banned, I never lied about not having Sb on my pc.

Edit: I wouldn't let Micah and Dave scan my pc if I was Sb'ing, I simply forgot I deleted some Sb's a few days ago before I got banned, which they found. This can be verified because Dave took a ss of when I last edited the program and it was on 8-12-12 6 days before I got banned. You can think whatever you want but only I will actually know if I used the Sb or I didn't, unless the government recorded everything ofc.

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Originally Posted by Johnny

If you got banned why are you still here. oO. You basically just admitted to shotbotting.
*aff whatever nvm.

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I won him 1v1 " may the best shotbot win " i feel pro z-z. I wil look for ss-s when im home (phone ATM)

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Originally Posted by notSteff

I won him 1v1 " may the best shotbot win " i feel pro z-z. I wil look for ss-s when im home (phone ATM)

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Me2 h h h

Say at the time of those wins you posted they wasn't hacking or altering there computer performance for an advantage? Wouldn't that mean those screenshots/wins are just as good as those vs someone who is 100% legit.

smackidos mad sber

http://puu.sh/6o0ea.jpg
http://puu.sh/6o0H0.jpg
http://puu.sh/6o0Tw.jpg
http://puu.sh/6o0MQ.jpg
http://puu.sh/6o0dH.jpg
banidos esper
http://puu.sh/6o0nK.jpg
banidos esp and sb
http://puu.sh/6o0pd.jpg
http://puu.sh/6o0Rh.jpg
esper n0b
http://puu.sh/6o0KE.jpg
ex-bannidos praa
http://puu.sh/6o0PC.jpg
ex-banidos yoda
http://puu.sh/6o0Zn.jpg
espers
http://puu.sh/6o15U.jpg
http://puu.sh/6o16l.jpg

aff will update s00n g2g hospital

shotbot - fatality
http://puu.sh/6o13g.jpg
http://puu.sh/6o15P.jpg
http://puu.sh/6o1SG.jpg

espers
http://puu.sh/6o1yI.jpg

eternal shotbota
http://puu.sh/6o1Ec.jpg
http://puu.sh/6o1LQ.jpg

esp-mastermind topteamos
http://puu.sh/6o1FD.jpg
http://puu.sh/6o1ID.jpg

horace (sb or uc i forgot)
http://puu.sh/6o1QV.jpg


(inb4johnny says; wow steff won a clanwar more then once wtf)

afff more

esp
http://puu.sh/6o5sP.jpg
http://puu.sh/6o5w5.jpg
esp
http://puu.sh/6o6qV.jpg
idk what he got baned for
http://puu.sh/6o6Ip.jpg
http://puu.sh/6o6IR.jpg

i reformatted pc NO MORE SS' AFF.

I have some ss :) beating pro's :))

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Originally Posted by Johnny

i reformatted pc NO MORE SS' AFF.

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nob

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Originally Posted by Johnny

Yeah and clan warring to attract more players doesn't help the server either?
/logic

In the end, active competition causes more donations from players.

GG, buddy.

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Hmmm, Active competition with an avid ddoser? I don't know about that attracting players...

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Originally Posted by FreestylesFinest

Hmmm, Active competition with an avid ddoser? I don't know about that attracting players...

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avid, right.

obv the first screenshot the other guy is ddosed so thats why we won ya.

unbanned for a reason, gave my word. now get off and stop trying to provoke me? you constantly follow me in game and i havent said a word, please stop. yet another reason why people don't play gunz actively is because of people like you rofl.

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Originally Posted by Johnny

Most of them don't play smart when using programs. :)

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You play smart using them?

johnny is bad at gunz tsk tsk

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Originally Posted by Elicar

You play smart using them?

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didn't i get your mate banned for using aimfix. you guys are really dumb when u play XDD. u walk out of a door at the same time. what else is going to happen if i have sprays on. obv u both just get spammed G_G.

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Originally Posted by Johnny

avid, right.

obv the first screenshot the other guy is ddosed so thats why we won ya.

unbanned for a reason, gave my word. now get off and stop trying to provoke me? you constantly follow me in game and i havent said a word, please stop. yet another reason why people don't play gunz actively is because of people like you rofl.

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Right, It just annoys me and Sam both you fooled us with your sob story, in the end GunZ is GunZ, It's a game. No need to take it so serious, right?

joni veri bad oki

http://i.imgur.com/yZFIcS8.jpg
such good domics much amaze

Johnny: DDoS'er, along with other hacks

http://i39.tinypic.com/1z5itxe.jpg

look how bad you use to be before u went unlegit XD

'-' That was my first month back to GunZ after like a year and a half off, besides I was quester-status before I quit anyways oO. Good logic.