I'm new to this server, just recently tried it and I like this one the best out of all the variations i have tried.
That being said the player numbers are pretty low.
What can we do to draw more traffic?
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I'm new to this server, just recently tried it and I like this one the best out of all the variations i have tried.
That being said the player numbers are pretty low.
What can we do to draw more traffic?
yeah... release v9 (a copy of v7)Quote:
Originally Posted by ZipppeD
By not muting/warning players for spamming 5 lines/insulting
I mean cmon there is no ****ing way someone will insult you for no reason, a good solution for this would be chat logs for every player but heh heh heh its too hard to develop.
But its 2017 people get offended so easily
What? Isn't that why we should? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Surfen
To log what you guys are saying to eachother is ridiculously easy. The problem is, if we did that and you guys found out, you'd whine about us invading your privacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Surfen
Nope, thats why you shouldnt mute them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Linzor
Hes mad at you because you either insulted him once/twice and then stopped or Kept killing him
Two different scenarios and both of them should have a format each, for example: if hes mad cause you kept killing him, just record yourself killing him and let the chat replay do his job
Write an agreement for the game where players accept these terms of privacy where you, the game moderators and admins have all the rights to read each log there is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetman
#problemsolved
Feel like this got a little off topic~ lol
they have a Facebook page with more than 16k of "Like", and they do not advertise, they think that people will come alone, there are people who do not know this game and if they do not announce they will never come, this game is very good and people can enter and have fun.
Promote Gunz, Make new weapons/clothing/items less bannin and i think this server needs a staff clean up
cleaning of the staff? never, they just need new weapons that attract attention, new clothes (I like Naruto's anime clothes) this is Freestyle, we have to be original.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ladykill
https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...1475690802862/Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaku
Its very new user unfriendly, could use some guides on how to do the styles on the website.
Most anyone new is going to join, get murdered in 3 seconds, and go WELP thats enough of that. So the problem is we need people who suck, to cater to the people who suck.
The bounty item shop is confusing as all hell, a whole bunch of items that throw stats at you out of nowhere - most of them identical. Removing the redundant stats would help alot, if everything gives the same amount you don't even have to announce it.
Is there a player referral program? Like you get X coins if a player joins and levels up to X or something like that? Maybe you get X coins upon that players first donation?
Trying to think of other ideas.
Game is just way too old to keep up in both terms of graphics and mechanics with any other new game, deal with it.
Alot of games have worse graphics than this one. The graphics alone wont hold it back.
Player retention will be a problem. But this game offers a level of action I cant find anywhere else, they should market it that way.
I thanked bc Jimin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zéxi
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V8 was a mistake
Guess they could copy already made youtube tutorials about the most common things in GunZ.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZipppeD
I agree but I find it hard to understand there are actually completely new players to this game (it is really old, usually only people that knew the game already come here), I could be wrong.
It's a pretty simple system tbh.
And I do not know which stats you think are redundant, if it's about clothing costing the same for example that is just how the game is coded (displaying x-number place, not the actual numbers).
There should be one, unless they removed it when they moved onto version 8 (version 7 had a ref program with rewards).
I think your right about only old players joining the server, but i also think thats a problem that could be remedied - if done correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by StephanM
They cant really rely on a trickle flow of new players, because a completely new player will be overwhelmed by the skill gap without other new players to pit them against.
It would almost have to be an advertising storm to draw in enough new players to hold any water. They would have to play off of the fast paced action of the game, coupled with the direct relation to skill
Most of the items in the bounty shop have the same stats and icon, its just not appealing to look at.
And most of the advertising could be done for free through social media. They could also offer streamer-only items to players to keep so long as they continue streaming the game. Make it like an endorsement and have the streamer leave a link to the website on their page, along with the servers logo. Hook em up like a nascar driver.
TOOOOO be HONESTTTT zipped u are correct with pretty much everything. dis game is extremely unique and TBHHH it has been ruined with this new version unfortunately player base on THIS server will continue to get worse and worse until the game is 0000players and Eagle ajaj. No1 enjoys playing a crummy backwards server. that is why players left and will continue to leave, the player base on this server WILL NOT rise due to DUMbass BANS/MUTES, NEW VERSION IS COMPLETE AND UTTER POOP, new GUNS R SHIT, AIM ASSIST IS POOP, SHOTGUNS ARE NOW RANGE AJAJ...I dont play this server anymore the new update completely ruined the game for me in terms of k-style, speed, mechanics, latedash ETC. I play another server which is catered towards Most players with their server. It is sad what has become of FG tbh but im assuming the owners want to cash out BIG before their server is totally done with the new coin system and limitbreaker/CSGO gamble bullshit lol. it is what it is tho mate! make the best of freelogunz xD
Shop icon = them being lazy not to put the items through the thumbnail generator, so yeah.. you are right lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZipppeD
It was mentioned before that they could use Facebook more (perhaps even instagram and snapchat, but I doubt that would do any good), might even pick up Twitter (again?) when it comes to new patch releases.
There are streamer rewards so far I know of, do realise that streaming private servers isn't supported by Twitch.
Oooooh! What about creating human bots with variety of difficulty and apply any styles they want to face on a bot! It would at least teach beginners some strategies when facing old gens. It would arm them with knowledge on what to expect and they can practice Getting better in fights!
They did too much to this server and killed it. Everyone I know went to other servers because of this. They should of just kept v7 which always had 100 or more players. Hitbox, weapons were fine. Only thing that needed to be worked on was the anti lead. This game feels totally different than what people are used to.
GODBLESS YOU YAVEN! you speak the truth for US ALL! players WILL not come to this server EVER AGAIN BECAUSE OF THIS DUMB VERSION UPDATE FGUNZ! EVERY1 I know switched to *** and REFUSE to play dis crap version...the game feels so different its like a totally new game ajaj. i dont even play this server no more cuz of the update...sigh zipped; players wont come but u can still play and try to enjoy ur time, learn K-STYLE with female and u will get good, use wheel mouse and reload click and u will get good, sadly players will not be coming back to FG. THE DAMAGE HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE SIR!Quote:
Originally Posted by Yaven
~Godbless, Slide, Orijjinal, Warden, RebornV6
Exactly!!!! I dont play this server anymore. I try not to even get on forums. I'm just so upset that they killed the server so I come on here and post. Before they killed it I didnt even look at any other servers to join ,but now us as players have no choice. I even tried to give this server a chance the other day. I played and hated it! I uninstalled. I cant even aim, move or anything anymore!
LOL SAME BRO SAME! 1st days of the update i played this shit and my jaw dropped at how shitty the update was. I played 2 games and uninstalled ASAP. The game is 2 different and shit now rofl. cant aim cant move cant type cant do shit, antilead is worse now aswell with the dumb ass range shotguns...and characters with 200hp/200ap...shit is stupid now i play other server this one is BEYOND Help! I agree Yaven its bad and it wont get better, this is FGUN2017. Sorry zipped, if u woulda came like 3months earlier u woulda enjoyed ur stay here :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Yaven
Improve it, by new items.
ppl are not playing cause of mcsics genius balancing and silents anti lead
honestly.. i dont even see them playing either
V8 needs to get Hellsniper out of retirement and put him back into the team. Hellsniper's work for v6 and v7 (maybe v5) made us players enjoy this sever. V8 is so bad where we watch people play training rooms for nearly an hour. Yes there are people streaming quest but it is better than talking to someone in a training room for 45 minutes.also v8's anti lead isnt that bad but takes a while to adjust. and i ****ing laughed my ass off when i saw the limitbreaker X. i thought u guys have something better than that like a customize SG. also banning/muting/warning people who is insulting other players is also dumb cause we have a command /ignore for a reason. if people cant handle it should use /ignore or dont reply back ( its not that hard). there is players that provoke other players to insult them that gets caught with it should be punished harshly with the false report and information to get other players muted/warned/banned. Not only the people who left this game because of the [R][IA] ( which was a good idea to me) but ur losing players one to another and by groups of players that actually enjoyed this sever is coming to a dispointment. Banning people for first offense of hacking shouldn't wait nearly 6-9 months to get unbanned for hacking for the first time ( depending on the player's unban appeal) but we should give players 2nd chances to redeem themselves to become a legit player.
the things i like about V8 is actually the gems because it is different and have multi stuff to "upgrade" to be overpowered like HP/AP, SPEED, AND elements (fire and ice on the shotgun), etc. IMO i dont know why we have to try to upgrade bounty weapoins which doesn't make sense to me. dont get me wrong i love this sever because i married Lin here~~
but it looks like people are just chilling till it dies out mean while some severs gaining and absorbing players. thats how i see it when i play fgunz
its a shame to have a administer play clan war cause there was people waiting for 2s,3s for hours to play cw with.
The anti lead is actually fine, pretty sure the word you are looking for is the fall-off (aka drop) damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by keelo
I do agree about (r)(ia). I seem to just hangout in training just staring at the screen bored now. I used to Just play r ai mode strictly but now I’m just not into regular tdms. Just bored staring at the screen in the training room waiting for something to happen. Then I just alt tab into maplestory now! :D
Id like to introduce you to the wonderful gamemode of quest. Implementing actual bots with playstyles requires a pretty complex AI so it probably wont happenQuote:
Originally Posted by insanetheif
Dem sh*ts are all true af. Kappa
I agree with most of people said. Please fix things back, advertise and do something to make the server stop dying before it's too late. This server deserves much better than losing over an another server. Even though people calls it "br server" they choose to go there now which is even more sad. :(
Sounds Good :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lenny
In addition to all of the above,
The game & community type are NOT new-comer friendly, as a result of that fact new people to the game usually are getting frustrated pretty quickly and decide to leave instead of staying and improving.
People who complain that the removal of R IA ruined FGunZ need a reality check, that aspect was/has never been apart of GunZ, it promoted spam, so called 'lucky aiming as you could just fire countless amount of shots without really aiming and not to mention no other server that's popular has that feature so it's not a key point as to why FGunZ is fading out.
Players being muted/banned for pointless stuff, from what recall some being a moderator in 2014 to the current date, the rules have been the same, player count back then was much higher therefore I don't believe this to be a key point either.
Anti-lead? Anti-Lead is fine for me, player who are complaint about it don't understand the aspect of the range drop outs and the new hitboxes, mainly shotgun users, you can't be firing shots from one end of the room to the other and expect to deal damage, same with expecting a decent amount of damage at a mid range shot when pellets spread and the hitboxes are much more accurate so therefore rather than a rectangle box around the thing you are shooting at, there's a accurately drawn hitbox around the modal, therefore pellets when spread go under the arm, through the legs, side of the head and over the shoulder etc, less pellets hit meaning less damage dealt.
I still think range drop in general needs to be removed. As for the overall reason for decrease in player count it comes down to Gunz being an old game, there won't be a influx of newcomers because the only people who can play GunZ and honestly enjoy it are players who played for somewhat years, nobody wants to come to a game trying to spray and snipe when players are bouncing off walls, reload shotting and have a 7/10 aim in general
Yup, that's the main reason imo for the current drop too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Notorious
You can't just take 14y/o game, make changes to key weapon range and demolish any trace of the original gameplay with that same weapon (sg in our case) people got used to play with it in a certain way all these years so implanting such change when gunz community in general slowly decreases anyway, only makes the process faster, which is a shame actually.
I believe if this new range mess would be removed, then the situation is somewhat fixable with appropriate advertising and such.
IMHO, I think it's time to just let go of the nostalgia, to let v8 be the final version of FGunZ, let it ride out until it fully dies, and invest the time into moving onto a new game to host for the Freestylers World community. Whatever happens from there, happens. Yes, it's a sad thought to think about, but think about it. An increase in player base happening really isn't logical.
Everyone who RQed pre and post v8 isn't going to come back. Either they lost interest in the game overtime with age/got too busy IRL, or they're unsatisfied with v8 and left because the changes made aren't going to be reverted (which essentially is the only way those people are ever going to return). They invested all this time to work on v8. They're not going back no matter how much you cry. If you send out a mass e-mail to old, existing members who've been gone for a while telling them about v8, you already know the majority of those people if they return are going to return and be stubborn like everyone else has been and talk shit about v8. They're gonna be too stubborn to adapt to a major change that they're not used to. If you try to attract brand new players (whether it be through advertising or by hosting a new game in hopes that people will give FG a download), odds are they aren't going to be willing to invest the time it takes into learning the mechanics of this game, or the huge egotistical side of the community will just scare them off right from the jump (or a mix of both lol). And for those of you saying "that's why there's a /ignore function hurdurdur," come on don't be stupid. You should know by now how retardedly easy it is to bypass the /ignore function to keep pestering someone lol. And I know plenty of you get bored enough to the point where you go through the effort to do so.
This game is over a decade old. Even if they brought back most of what v7 offered, this game wouldn't have lasted very much longer to be completely honest. I think it's time to stop living in the past, look towards the future and move on. Everything has to die at some point in time. GunZ has had its time if you ask me.
You really wanna know why FGunZ died when other GunZ servers didn't? They changed GunZ into something that isn't like the unique GunZ we all know. Adding useless shit, stupid modes, stupid clothes, stupid hitbox, useless maps, ugly interface, weird looking weapons (that's not GunZ alike at all), rainbow things all over the fking place etc.
If they've kept it simple (Like W T T did) there would be like 500+ players on FGunZ. And don't even say otherwise cause this is the truth.
Aim Assist. Aim assist? What the...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinkiez
I stopped reading at "AIM ASSIST IS POOP".
Stop using hacks?
I'm sorry if you can't aim nor type but I doubt that's FG's fault. Lmao.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinkiez
There's no characters with 200HP/200AP unless you're mixing up *** and FG. They're known for their shit balancing with 999 levels and characters with 250+ HP. FG doesn't do that. Needless to say the new and more detailed hitboxes and removal of IA and R just mean you have to aim better - or rather: you actually have to aim - and some players just can't keep up with that.
Now the damage drop-off is a topic we can actually discuss.
Improving by purchasing donations?Quote:
Originally Posted by León
very good point. i think a good factor to consider is knowing who you are catering to. what kind of audience you are trying to pull in, do we want brand new players that are completely fresh to the game? or current gunz players with experience already. i get the whole idea is to cater to both but right now how fg is, it seems this new update attracts neither side.Quote:
Originally Posted by León
///// i think this update is pretty cool but not really enough to bring me back into playing gunz the duel (maybe im just burnt out, gunz is a very old game after all). looking at this update, or the game in general, as a brand new player, its alot to take in without any guidance. one thing that put me off was the whole bounty/shop system. as an old player whos already reached lvl 99, had shit ton of bounty before update, felt kinda like a slap to the face when u got rid of my whole inventory/bounty. i get that youre trying to put in a system into the shop but i think already existing members aren't trying to deal with any of that. me personally i didnt care cause im not as die hard gunz player as i used to be, i just wanted to jump in and see what the update was about, but i could def see why current players wouldnt like it (feeling like "wtf i just want my setup back, im lvl XX why do i have to grind for this again).
imo what i think gunz needs right now is a completely new rebirth. whole game interface changed (modern, easy to navigate), new player friendly layout (maybe some ingame tutorials, a beginner stage to welcome new players instead of throwing them in freechannel with players that have 7+ years of game knowledge) , advertisement as a new game, the whole idea of gunz as a game and community needs a refresh. we need to sell gunz as a brand new game and pull in fresh gamers because quite frankly, the current old, already experienced gunz players are probably just a little burnt out.
idk just my 2 cents and where i see gunz's current position in the gaming community
I actually like the update o.o
However I only really play Infected and Quest which are actually laid back rooms where you don't need to deal with aggressive badmouthing little kids that can't behave on the internet (save for the hacker once in a while totally getting rekt by legit players), too bad Infected died (I never see any room for it and creating one only shows me no one is joining...). So I pretty much do Quest now and listen to music at the same time.
Yup, I still go by that the drop-off should be goner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Notorious
give stephanM his forum moderator role back and player count will definitely increase at laest by 100
StephanM4ManagerQuote:
Originally Posted by Opeth
ok woah relax keyboard warriorQuote:
Originally Posted by Jinkiez
also this server deffo needs some changing sad to see so many people leave after the changes i think if they just gave people the old game back and some other changes like easier to get donors or something and new weapons and clothing and advertise there server which there not doing i think it could easily come back with alot of playersQuote:
Originally Posted by Jinkiez
IÂ’m like wtf? You serious? The ****ing modes made fgunz unique!!! Do you think it had all these modes so it can be like the other bland servers? I donÂ’t think so! There are many people like me that enjoyed playing fgunz for this feature and this only! So you saying that this isnÂ’t one of the key points why fgunz fading out without concrete evidence is pretty much bs. IÂ’m one of the many people whoÂ’ve enjoyed fgunz primarily for these feature and now I just see myself and few other hanging out in training rooms just bitching about how this v8 sucks waiting for them to bring it back! If me afking in training rooms or in the lobby can help the headcount for activity IÂ’ll do it gladly but it would be better if I could play those modes again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Notorious
well i like v8 feels more comfortable anti lead is pretty good, the movement is more comfortable too.
v8 fun the things i hate much lucky boxes it's looks like they want people buy coins and earn money.
and the chance same like v7 to win limit breaker x or katana x or gembox. i think everything should be at donation shop
and more people will donate too, this my opinion.
Imma tell you how v8 ****ed the server.
Donates are too op. Lb was bad enough but you bring out lb x, katana x, and donor gems? Sounds like an attempt to cash out on a game that you’ve given up on which is fking pathetic. It’s more expensive to get the best donates here than the other server.
Hit boxes are too small for your average player to hit. They don’t wanna feel like they’re shit, so they rq. Whoever thought of this stupid idea must have never played the game which is already some dumb logic to begin with. Hit boxes are bigger in the other server so people feel better about themselves.
Sick of playing vs unlegits. Get better anti hack. I know plenty of cwers out there that use private hacks (admitted) but it’s undetectable. Bar was ucing for 4 years before he got banned and that’s only because he turned up uc higher than he did cause he couldn’t hit shit in v8. 4 fking years? Unacceptable. In the other server it’s hard to play unlegit. Not saying that you should implement a RAT but add better detection.
Stop banning people for provoking staff. You banned leader of arise clan which lead to literally -30% cw activity in the server. Great job Linzor you can’t handle an insult on the internet so you make other people suffer. This would never happen in the other server.
In essence, everything here sucks compared to the other server. The one thing you had better before was cheaper donates and an English speaking community. Now all you have left is an English speaking community which isn’t much of a selling point. In hindsight. the server was going to have a decreased player count for sure. Try to fix these issues and maybe you’ll have more players.
M8 if it was a small insult then he'd just be muted, if he's banned then there's a bit more to it than that so use your brain. There's no wonder that CW died if these assholes was at the top, not really attracting new folks to try it out.Quote:
Stop banning people for provoking staff. You banned leader of arise clan which lead to literally -30% cw activity in the server. Great job Linzor you can’t handle an insult on the internet so you make other people suffer. This would never happen in the other server.
They are actually the character model size... which should've been like that in the first place instead of a rectangle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Akimbo
All I can say is git aim, git gut. Feel bad about it? Learn to aim! ;)
Boys,
Gunz is a 14 year old game and no matter what update you do to it, it cant compete with other Games.
Even if it's one of its kind it has many problems. One of them is the anti-hack system. It's way to easy to hack the game and sometimes it takes 2-3 days to ban the people who hack.
No matter how much you advertise this server, it's still a private server. This is a huge problem for the game.
As for V8. It has some nice features but I feel you guys over did it. Gems for example should never be in Gunz or they should be only for PVE. This server feels P2W now, something that most of us hated about other servers.
I dont really agree with people saying that new players wont stay because of the egoistic community. One of the big factors that made this server last that long was it's drama and competitive enviroment. Sadly you guys hired some over sensitive GMs that punish you for basicly nothing. I remember looking at Zabus reports and 80% of his reports were accepted and was for the stupidiest reasons ever. This kills the drama and competitive enviroment. Also GunZ attracts young aged people (12-16) who are the most toxic mother fkers ever. They put me in shock sometimes.
What keeps people away from GunZ IMO are its dated Graphics, time to get good at the game (will take you 10-24 months to get good at K-Style for ex), tons of game modes, lack of guides and GunZ "teachers".
This has been the case of FGs reputation for GMs for years, and I feel like it's gotten to the point where it's complete shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunfire
Muting over a player is too easy on FG and one little mark against you is permanent (unless you pay and **** that). Add up the infractions over nothing and soon enough you're banned. One less "toxic" player many people played with because a crybaby didnt like it and went to report it. Good job shooting yourself in the foot FG.
The whole thing snowballs and you slowly bleed users. The whole concept with snowflake reports leading to bans was never needed and yes I will say that's what /ignore is for. But if that's not enough then there should have been a bigger effort from FG's staff, like reusing the /kick system as a /mute (for the room, not account) vote. People already use /kick in-place of muting because they don't like "ego".
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Akimbo is right and StephanM you are wrong. v8 has some positive changes under the hood but all of the actual decisions to change up the gameplay code has been disastrous even if it had good intentions. GunZ already had a steep learning curve, making it harder with the tiny hitboxes and dropoff "lel get gud l2aim" is where we are with a learning cliff, losing the majority of the middle ground players who populated the server. As well as you can't expect to attract brand new players with an even more difficult and needlessly complicated version of GunZ when they can play a simpler one somewhere else. You can feel as superior as you want... but you'll be playing alone. Like Akimbo said, people will go somewhere else where they don't feel like they are complete trash because of the more forgiving gameplay like with the hitboxes.
Everyone I've talked to says FG is dead, and to play somewhere else. Since we've already had the oversensitive staff since v7 the only thing left to conclude the server being on it's deathbed is that it's because of v8's incessant attempt to reinvent the wheel instead of just polish it up. It's not because "GunZ is an old game" because that's just being in denial, trying to ignore the elephant in the room.
If i am not wrong, another servers have anti-uc (uc doesnt affect the game) they should add it aswell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Akimbo
Agree... it's heart breaking people playing ug(totally pay2win) instead fg :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Qwin
The only thing you can do at this moment is to compete with other servers out there. I don't think GunZ has can attract new people anymore.
Things I would do.
> Just delete SGS drop off.
> Make GEMs only PVE use
> Nerf old LB to 11 dmg.
> Change the Rules so people don't get infractions for simple insults.
> Make a good Cash Tournament in order to attract players and show them the new features. Also someone has to stream it. ( I saw a Tournament stream had 100 viewers.)