GM Rule

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hello. I've been told "newgen" GMs are not allowed to host events anymore with the addition of a rule made by miranda, who I might add has left the server.

I think its quite an odd rule to say that only if you've been a GM for longer than an arbitrary, non defined amount of time, then you're allowed to host. The description of the role game moderator in the stafflist clearly says "People who keep order in Freestyle GunZ. Enforcing rules, remove hackers, host events every now and then and solve your everyday GunZ problems.
so how can you exclude certain game moderators from hosting and others not?
the rule might have been removed already however charm told me she can't host because of it which is why I've suggested it in the first place.

The rule is valid upon those who weren't event team members in the past or became gm after 2013, from what I see it's only 3 gms and two of them don't host anyway.

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Originally Posted by León

The rule is valid upon those who weren't event team members in the past or became gm after 2013, from what I see it's only 3 gms and two of them don't host anyway.

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it could also be that they never host because of the rule, but its always nice to have the possibility for a GM to host if say, event moderators are sleeping or unavailable at the time.

I agree, Charm Hye is more active than the OFFICIAL EM's, she was hosting in the past, she was as good as the current ETS, so I'd like to see her hosting again, cuz some days we dont play any event(s).

Because everyone but Charm has basically done some sort of "training", the ones before 2013 are experienced and the others (like Leo and I for example) has been ET's. With newer GMs there has been alot of problems regarding events, not to mention how very unfair it is towards the ET's that has to undergo training for it while a GM gets it "for free" when training for something completely different.

It isn't like hosting an event would be that much of a difficulty per se (speaking from experience, been developer at 2 servers, co-owner at 1 and GM at 1 in the past), I don't know why you would need such a special treatment to be able to host a private server event in such an old game. That being said the whole point of creating an Event Team in the past was that when GMs are busy or inactive at the time the playerbase doesn't feel left out and to take some weight off the GM's back. Yes, experience in hosting events is not a bad thing, but everyone gotta start somewhere, and it ain't like it couldn't be started without any experience, it's mostly a learn-to-go thing.

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Originally Posted by Banjee

It isn't like hosting an event would be that much of a difficulty per se (speaking from experience, been developer at 2 servers, co-owner at 1 and GM at 1 in the past), I don't know why you would need such a special treatment to be able to host a private server event in such an old game. That being said the whole point of creating an Event Team in the past was that when GMs are busy or inactive at the time the playerbase doesn't feel left out and to take some weight off the GM's back. Yes, experience in hosting events is not a bad thing, but everyone gotta start somewhere, and it ain't like it couldn't be started without any experience, it's mostly a learn-to-go thing.

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You need experience, It's not that hosting a event is hard its that you guys make it hard.

Having experienced people host games is ideal since they know what to do in most situations, So logically we rather have people host event's that applied for ET then people who didn't.

I'm sure most of you think everything is done very easy, But honestly it's not there is a reason why there is some sort of training for it.


P.S i'm sure charm can host a event but it's no reason to remove a rule just for her.

so youre mentioning how the event team passed training and has experience with hosting events, and yet somehow we get to a situation theres 3 rerounds of dodgeball because the host which was an event moderator
-accidentally left the room
-suicided by his own rockets
-left to get admin rings.
my point is, everyone make mistakes, im not ranting about any specific event moderator or game moderator. they all started somewhere, and mistakes are part of the process of learning. i personally prefer any event than have none because there are no willing-to-host event moderators and some gms are not allowed to host, and by making those mistakes that might not happen in the first place, you train more people to host events and make the server more active.
but if you wanna keep it at 1 set a day and at some days no sets at all, sure.

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Originally Posted by Bunny

so youre mentioning how the event team passed training and has experience with hosting events, and yet somehow we get to a situation theres 3 rerounds of dodgeball because the host which was an event moderator
-accidentally left the room
-suicided by his own rockets
-left to get admin rings.
my point is, everyone make mistakes, im not ranting about any specific event moderator or game moderator. they all started somewhere, and mistakes are part of the process of learning. i personally prefer any event than have none because there are no willing-to-host event moderators and some gms are not allowed to host, and by making those mistakes that might not happen in the first place, you train more people to host events and make the server more active.
but if you wanna keep it at 1 set a day and at some days no sets at all, sure.

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ET's aren't robots they are human so yes even ET's that have done training can make mistakes.

So it seems that the problem lays at the lack of event's being hosted.
Maybe you should make a thread about that instead.

Won't see me hosting an event ever, just throwing it out there...

Whatcha are all implying is that you would like to see 'Charmed' hosting since Linzor/Omma/Zone/Leo/Taint/Legancy are already pretty much qualified todo so due to past experience.

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Originally Posted by Rain

ET's aren't robots they are human so yes even ET's that have done training can make mistakes.

So it seems that the problem lays at the lack of event's being hosted.
Maybe you should make a thread about that instead.

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I completely agree with everything he just said - But I see your point about the events not being hosted as frequently as you all wish it to be; but you know, even ets can get busy, but I am sure someday we'll of course add new ETs, I personally try to host as much as I can, still, it's normal to **** up even when it is me, heh. So yeh, I do believe Charm is an amazing helper, but it is not in my hands or the ET to decide on such rules AFTER all.

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Originally Posted by Rain

You need experience, It's not that hosting a event is hard its that you guys make it hard.

Having experienced people host games is ideal since they know what to do in most situations, So logically we rather have people host event's that applied for ET then people who didn't.

I'm sure most of you think everything is done very easy, But honestly it's not there is a reason why there is some sort of training for it.


P.S i'm sure charm can host a event but it's no reason to remove a rule just for her.

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This^

Another thing is that being an ET or a GM is two completely different things, I'd hire someone specific for ET and another specific for GM because they're two different people, good at two different things. Many past GM's who's been hosting events and failed miserably just didn't connect with the players the same way the ET's do (that you know got that kind of reputation with the players), not all GM's are as patient as the ET's when it comes to hosting events or care as much about the rules and that's something that you'll find out if the ET's is or isn't during their trial.

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Originally Posted by Linzor

This^

Another thing is that being an ET or a GM is two completely different things, I'd hire someone specific for ET and another specific for GM because they're two different people, good at two different things. Many past GM's who's been hosting events and failed miserably just didn't connect with the players the same way the ET's do (that you know got that kind of reputation with the players), not all GM's are as patient as the ET's when it comes to hosting events or care as much about the rules and that's something that you'll find out if the ET's is or isn't during their trial.

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i agree, GMs are different from EMs in many aspects. however the rule is very generalized considering, some GMs can be "oldgens" and lack that connection with players and ability to host like event moderators do, and some "newgens" do have that connection and are able to host just fine, which means the rule should be altered/not be in place. if a game moderator thinks he cant host because he disagrees with things or lacks the connection and ability, i'm sure he can decide for himself if he should be hosting or not just as much as he's deciding if someone's a hacker or not.

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Originally Posted by Bunny

i agree, GMs are different from EMs in many aspects. however the rule is very generalized considering, some GMs can be "oldgens" and lack that connection with players and ability to host like event moderators do, and some "newgens" do have that connection and are able to host just fine, which means the rule should be altered/not be in place. if a game moderator thinks he cant host because he disagrees with things or lacks the connection and ability, i'm sure he can decide for himself if he should be hosting or not just as much as he's deciding if someone's a hacker or not.

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Then I refer to my first post and you'll get my answer for what you just wrote.

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Originally Posted by Notorious

Won't see me hosting an event ever, just throwing it out there...

Whatcha are all implying is that you would like to see 'Charmed' hosting since Linzor/Omma/Zone/Leo/Taint/Legancy are already pretty much qualified todo so due to past experience.

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TBH, our 'oldgen' GMs aren't active in-game that much, but there are some who plays on alt accounts and they resigned from the EM rank for a reason, but our point is that Charm has the experience to host a whole set without any problems even tot she didn't pass 'et trial', Charm is very active plus there are like 5~6 hours in her timezone the EMs dont host at all cuz they cant play in that time, and people QQ n spam her to host, but sadly she cant, even tot Charm is a GM but still she has to enjoy the events as much as we enjoy it but, for her timezone that will be hard for her.

and i agree with Rain that the ET's aren't robots, about the dodgeball event today there were 34 players and they all were fokn spamming the chat, and i bet the host LOGGED IN just to host, so i think you cant blame him / her if he/she forgot the weapons/admin rig after he/she was playing TDM / GLAD again mistakes happens.
and the host didn't he did re the 3 rounds lol so idk what is ur point.

I never said ET's dont do their job, THEY DO IT very well, but the problem still here the delay between the sets(they usually host 3 sets a day), and yes more events more fun.

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Originally Posted by Zabu

and i agree with Rain that the ET's aren't robots, about the dodgeball event today there were 34 players and they all were fokn spamming the chat, and i bet the host LOGGED IN just to host, so i think you cant blame him / her if he/she forgot the weapons/admin rig after he/she was playing TDM / GLAD again mistakes happens.
and the host didn't he did re the 3 rounds lol so idk what is ur point.[/B][/U]

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my point by mentioning it is that game moderators can do these mistakes just as event moderators can, and therefore it is unjustified to deny their ability to host based on join date and the fact they havent underwent "special training", because you mostly learn as u go.

Request title to be changed to 'Let Charm host events' since all other are already qualified to do so.

Anyways I'm happy for Charm to host events providing there was never any issues when she did host.

Or

Give Charm a trial basis with hosting alongside other event team members for 2 weeks, who can then take a vote to see if she's qualified to handle events alone. (Providing whiney players don't start with 'ET apps never opened why does she get this chance)

Such a suggestion will have to pass through Dave/McSic though first, you never know they may decide to open apps altogether come V8 to increase not just Event Team activity at all times but also Game Moderation activity aswell.. (New staff outside of the current time zones)

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Originally Posted by Notorious

Request title to be changed to 'Let Charm host events' since all other are already qualified to do so.

Anyways I'm happy for Charm to host events providing there was never any issues when she did host.

Or

Give Charm a trial basis with hosting alongside other event team members for 2 weeks, who can then take a vote to see if she's qualified to handle events alone. (Providing whiney players don't start with 'ET apps never opened why does she get this chance)

Such a suggestion will have to pass through Dave/McSic though first, you never know they may decide to open apps altogether come V8 to increase not just Event Team activity at all times but also Game Moderation activity aswell.. (New staff outside of the current time zones)

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and keep the rule in place? maybe, but consider the potential new-to-come game moderators aswell, like i said in my most recent post, if a game moderator, just like your for example, cannot or does not want to host, then he simply wont, you dont have to make a rule for them not to.

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Originally Posted by Bunny

and keep the rule in place? maybe, but consider the potential new-to-come game moderators aswell, like i said in my most recent post, if a game moderator, just like your for example, cannot or does not want to host, then he simply wont, you dont have to make a rule for them not to.

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Yes keep the rule in place, this entire thread is aimed towards Charm, the point of Event Team is host events and the point of Game Moderators is to Moderate, if we give let's say the future GMs the ability to host events then we may aswell scrap the Event Team role and train everyone to be able to do both Moderate and Events, meaning we would have let's say 10 Game Moderators in total, so that way theres never any excuse for the Moderation and Hosting side of things to ever become slacking in activity because it'll be everyone's job to handle reports/unbans/host events/help players

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Originally Posted by Bunny

and keep the rule in place? maybe, but consider the potential new-to-come game moderators aswell, like i said in my most recent post, if a game moderator, just like your for example, cannot or does not want to host, then he simply wont, you dont have to make a rule for them not to.

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Yes keep the rule in place, this entire thread is aimed towards Charm, the point of Event Team is host events and the point of Game Moderators is to Moderate, if we give let's say the future GMs the ability to host events then we may aswell scrap the Event Team role and train everyone to be able to do both Moderate and Events, meaning we would have let's say 10 Game Moderators in total, so that way theres never any excuse for the Moderation and Hosting side of things to ever become slacking in activity because it'll be everyone's job to handle reports/unbans/host events/help players

that reminded me of zexi for some reason

Yes I think the rule should stay but Connor made a good point there that Charm can attend the ET trial as if it were to be her own. But I don't like the idea of new gms just be able to jump into it without any experience.

Since I'm like the most topic here. I'm going to share my thoughts or experience I guess? :)
Note: No hard feelings, no bitterness. XD

I know that being an ET is not an easy job. Yes, I've tried hosting alone before,and I panicked at first, but I trained on my own, I host events for fun or help players who wants to do an event.
Asked some of the ET's that time(Matt, Perfect, Adri, & Cid) what to do, and I'll type it on my notepad and understand it.
When the ET's host and I'll be one of the helpers, I'll just watch what they are doing or what to do when this or that happens etc,. I'm a very observant person though I'm a silent type, but after I watch them I can easily understand and follow it or you can call it fast-learner *smirks*.

Hosting is nice and somewhat stressing, many players will spam you like 'blah is lagging, blah is spiking' and you can't reply to that player because there are tons of players whispering you, and for chocolate's sake that player has colors. Few minutes after, he will say 'why ignore my whisper? there's someone lagging dude, slap the guy'. And there's a lot of panic moments that ET's absolutely extremely definitely 100% without a doubt knows and feels about it.

So, in my opinion about this suggestion. About the new rule?
Well, I don't have any problems about it. I know it's not really my responsibility to host events.
It's not an easy task for me to host too, because I already have a responsibility.
Being a GM makes my eyes hurt sometimes just by watching replays over and over again, tons of player whispers you in-game for help, etc.etc.. But I love my job. :) *pouts*

Though, I'm still willing to help ET's, 'cause I love 'em. *winks*



PS: Just gonna share my unforgettable moment when I hosted The Stalker. Click here.

Let's make something different here, and no one would 'qq' for saying thats unfair, lets get Charm 'into ET trial' for 1 week she can host only with an official ET, and after the week the OFFICIAL ETs decide if she can host or no.

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Originally Posted by Zabu

Let's make something different here, and no one would 'qq' for saying thats unfair, lets get Charm 'into ET trial' for 1 week she can host only with an official ET, and after the week the OFFICIAL ETs decide if she can host or no.

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Yeah we only just said that, do you even read?

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Originally Posted by Notorious

if we give let's say the future GMs the ability to host events then we may aswell scrap the Event Team role and train everyone to be able to do both Moderate and Events, meaning we would have let's say 10 Game Moderators in total, so that way theres never any excuse for the Moderation and Hosting side of things to ever become slacking in activity because it'll be everyone's job to handle reports/unbans/host events/help players

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thats gonna be problematic considering if they do do such a thing that means hosting would be a requirement for game moderators which basically means youre even adding on top of all the responsibility you mentioned they already have earlier ;)
i dont think the rule should stay in place simply because if the GMs got time, as there are no reports or things they have to do which might be rare but is still a possibility, they should atleast be able to host if they want to make the community enjoy sum eventos

perhaps you can give any gm that wishes for it a 1 week trial that he could do every maybe 6 months (incase he fails, if he succeeds theres no point) if he's already a gm and wishes to gain the ability to host as an event moderator.

well if the server lack events, then Dave or McSic can open et apps why do you put it on the gms bro.
if they think what's going on is fine, then its fine.

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Originally Posted by Linzor

Because everyone but Charm has basically done some sort of "training", the ones before 2013 are experienced and the others (like Leo and I for example) has been ET's. With newer GMs there has been alot of problems regarding events, not to mention how very unfair it is towards the ET's that has to undergo training for it while a GM gets it "for free" when training for something completely different.

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Let her co-host once in a while so she get's that training?

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Originally Posted by Banjee

It isn't like hosting an event would be that much of a difficulty per se (speaking from experience, been developer at 2 servers, co-owner at 1 and GM at 1 in the past), I don't know why you would need such a special treatment to be able to host a private server event in such an old game. That being said the whole point of creating an Event Team in the past was that when GMs are busy or inactive at the time the playerbase doesn't feel left out and to take some weight off the GM's back. Yes, experience in hosting events is not a bad thing, but everyone gotta start somewhere, and it ain't like it couldn't be started without any experience, it's mostly a learn-to-go thing.

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Oh boy you haven't met people that are joining these events. Kids crying 24/7. You kinda need experience and alot of patience to deal with them or else you will black out from the shit that they gonna give you.

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Event Team is there for a reason. Dunno why you guys need more events. There are plenty of events going on everyday in this server. Sure Charm can host but she is already doing another job for the server. If E.T apps open again she can make an application and I'm sure she will get the position.

Every Team has its role in this server and it should be this way.

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Originally Posted by Sunfire

Oh boy you haven't met people that are joining these events. Kids crying 24/7. You kinda need experience and alot of patience to deal with them or else you will black out from the shit that they gonna give you.

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Event Team is there for a reason. Dunno why you guys need more events. There are plenty of events going on everyday in this server. Sure Charm can host but she is already doing another job for the server. If E.T apps open again she can make an application and I'm sure she will get the position.

Every Team has its role in this server and it should be this way.

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If youre think there are plenty of events right now then youre wrong, which makes sense, cause you wouldnt play them to know. If we have people willing and able to host events, why deny it from them?

Stop making such a fuss over "events" zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..................

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Originally Posted by Bunny

If youre think there are plenty of events right now then youre wrong, which makes sense, cause you wouldnt play them to know. If we have people willing and able to host events, why deny it from them?

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She can host an unofficial event like other people do.

You should be pleased that this server has an Event Team that is hosting 2-3 events everyday. Undoubtedly Event Team is the most active ING than any other staff team.

And no, everytime I come online I see Eagle,Kagura,Tenax hosting events for you guys. Just because I dont play events doesnt mean I cant read Announcements. Maybe you dont play enough to see how often they host. Stop being so ungrateful and always ask for more lmao.

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Originally Posted by Bunny

If youre think there are plenty of events right now then youre wrong, which makes sense, cause you wouldnt play them to know. If we have people willing and able to host events, why deny it from them?

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I dont know what are you talking about?!!
wtf man if 1 day pass without events you cry? everyone gets busy.
and they are working hard for "us" and they are doing fine.

Actually this is the true love when you make a problem over nothing.
its ok bunny its ok.

After looking through the thread and thinking about it, my honest opinion and just me keeping it real: ETs should stick to events and GMs should stick to moderating the game. Don't mix the two lol. You don't see managers flipping burgers every day at fast food restaurants. You see regular employees. Managers manage the store. Why have someone help you who doesn't experience the full thing almost daily if not daily? They aren't going to have the right experience to keep things running smoothly. And I've witnessed this myself first hand while working in fast food in the past. Same thing applies with the ETs and GMs.

There are more than enough events hosted for the player count this server receives on a daily basis. If anything I think the amount of events hosted right now is overkill, tbh. You guys pretty much want every single time zone to get events every single day, but not enough players are active/playing for that to work. I don't even bother joining the events anymore because when I join the event channel lobby, it's the same 32 *****s that fill up the room (if 32 even fill the room depending on the time zone), and those same 32 *****s cry and moan when the "fun" events aren't frequently hosted, so the quality of the good events are being ruined because of high demand and not enough people.

There's 4 ETs right now. They live real lives and are busy lol. Just because some of you feen on this game all day long every day, doesn't mean staff should be forced to as well just to serve your needs. This is a private server. They don't get paid, they willingly do this for free lol. And if there was a real issue with the hosting of events, I'm pretty sure Dave and McSic would demote inactive event team members and/or reopen ET apps to hire more people, just like any other time in the past.

As far as my girl Charm goes, if she really wanted to regularly host events, my opinion: she should go through the trial phase just like anybody else in the past has. But like I said, if they needed more activity from ETs, there would be apps open right now. Let my girl Charm do her thang and let her moderate the game okok. ;)

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Originally Posted by Sunfire

She can host an unofficial event like other people do.

You should be pleased that this server has an Event Team that is hosting 2-3 events everyday. Undoubtedly Event Team is the most active ING than any other staff team.

And no, everytime I come online I see Eagle,Kagura,Tenax hosting events for you guys. Just because I dont play events doesnt mean I cant read Announcements. Maybe you dont play enough to see how often they host. Stop being so ungrateful and always ask for more lmao.

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without a doubt the event team is SUPPOSED to be the most active ingame staff team, afterall they were made to make the server more active and give players the joy of playing events.
I don't know how good the timing of you logging on is but there are clear logs to show difference in activites in the past and now.

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Originally Posted by Sam

I dont know what are you talking about?!!
wtf man if 1 day pass without events you cry? everyone gets busy.
and they are working hard for "us" and they are doing fine.

Actually this is the true love when you make a problem over nothing.
its ok bunny its ok.

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I don't even know how i'm supposed to reply to this random immature comment, but all i can say is stating a problem without proposing a solution is called whining, while youre stating there is no problem while there is and I was proposing a solution.

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Originally Posted by Eddie

There are more than enough events hosted for the player count this server receives on a daily basis. If anything I think the amount of events hosted right now is overkill, tbh. You guys pretty much want every single time zone to get events every single day, but not enough players are active/playing for that to work. I don't even bother joining the events anymore because when I join the event channel lobby, it's the same 32 *****s that fill up the room (if 32 even fill the room depending on the time zone), and those same 32 *****s cry and moan when the "fun" events aren't frequently hosted, so the quality of the good events are being ruined because of high demand and not enough people.

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I think you're slightly confused-the playerbase and activity event-wise is not what's supposed to be the factor of the number of events hosted daily. It's the other way around. if they keep hosting 1 set a day--the playerbase will adjust with it and thus drop.

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Originally Posted by Eddie

There's 4 ETs right now. They live real lives and are busy lol. Just because some of you feen on this game all day long every day, doesn't mean staff should be forced to as well just to serve your needs. This is a private server. They don't get paid, they willingly do this for free lol. And if there was a real issue with the hosting of events, I'm pretty sure Dave and McSic would demote inactive event team members and/or reopen ET apps to hire more people, just like any other time in the past.

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thats why me and some other people have stated MULTIPLE times in this thread--if the 4 event moderators cannot keep up with the player demands for events, what solution could you possibly come up with to get more event moderators instead of keeping it the same way?
people DO have real lives and its completely understandable, but considering like i said earlier the event team is SUPPOSED to be the most active staff members on the game, and we have 4 of them while we have 8 game moderators?

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Originally Posted by Bunny

without a doubt the event team is SUPPOSED to be the most active ingame staff team, afterall they were made to make the server more active and give players the joy of playing events.
I don't know how good the timing of you logging on is but there are clear logs to show difference in activites in the past and now.



I don't even know how i'm supposed to reply to this random immature comment, but all i can say is stating a problem without proposing a solution is called whining, while youre stating there is no problem while there is and I was proposing a solution.



I think you're slightly confused-the playerbase and activity event-wise is not what's supposed to be the factor of the number of events hosted daily. It's the other way around. if they keep hosting 1 set a day--the playerbase will adjust with it and thus drop.



thats why me and some other people have stated MULTIPLE times in this thread--if the 4 event moderators cannot keep up with the player demands for events, what solution could you possibly come up with to get more event moderators instead of keeping it the same way?
people DO have real lives and its completely understandable, but considering like i said earlier the event team is SUPPOSED to be the most active staff members on the game, and we have 4 of them while we have 8 game moderators?

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From what I've gathered it is like you're grasping that more events mean more players, this isn't ture. Myself hates events, I get 0 joy from them and same for many others players amongst the server, like Eddie stated it's the same players over and over attending these events and sadly to me they are the same type of events over and over, they lack 0 skill in terms of 'player killing', in the 5 years I've been here at FGunZ I've seen a TDM/Duel event hosted probably a maximum of 4 times and when they were hosted people cried because it wasn't the typical LMS/HnS/Run from nade or admin/Race.

If I'm going to cause any issues with event team then that would be the thing to complain about, the events being hosted don't appeal to players who like to play TDM/Clan War/Duel, hence pulling in the same players over and over. (Before you state yes I could choose to host these events but we have event team members for that)

is this about charm and new gms or is it about the amount of event host?

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Originally Posted by Jeru

is this about charm and new gms or is it about the amount of event host?

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Both.

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Originally Posted by Bunny

I think you're slightly confused-the playerbase and activity event-wise is not what's supposed to be the factor of the number of events hosted daily. It's the other way around. if they keep hosting 1 set a day--the playerbase will adjust with it and thus drop.


thats why me and some other people have stated MULTIPLE times in this thread--if the 4 event moderators cannot keep up with the player demands for events, what solution could you possibly come up with to get more event moderators instead of keeping it the same way?
people DO have real lives and its completely understandable, but considering like i said earlier the event team is SUPPOSED to be the most active staff members on the game, and we have 4 of them while we have 8 game moderators?

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Not confused at all bro. Events aren't what keep the people on this game. Events are merely an "extra feature" to bring people together that are already playing this game. They keep their players through updates, unique releases of game modes and items, etc. A lot of people have been on and off playing GunZ since day 1 of Ijji. The nostalgia factor keeps people going and coming back, not events. Some old player isn't thinking "BRO I CAN'T WAIT TO REDOWNLOAD THIS P SERVER AND JOIN A HIDE N SEEK EVENTO MEN" lol they're thinking to come on, hopefully bump into some old friends, train for weeks to months, get better and play the game.

And honestly, there aren't many people left to bring together in the community we have right now, hence why events are typically always filled with the same exact players. On a good day you'll find between 200-250 online if you're lucky. Typically it's under 200 and roughly anywhere between 130 and 200 people online (not all of them actively playing mind you). If you really sit there and go through the list of lobbies, you'll find that the majority of players are AFK in the lobby or even AFK in the rooms themselves. Sometimes I see people online but AFK for a couple of days, they pop on and say hi to a few people, then go AFK for another couple of days. I remember I counted once and when there were 200 players on and exactly half of them were AFK, and it was noticeable they were AFK for a long period of time. Half of those AFK players were in training rooms with hundreds of deaths or in a game room of a passworded room titled "AFK" or something that implied they were AFK lol. Some you'd see AFK in a game room, log off for a few hours, come back on and that same ***** still AFK in that same game room. There's really no need for a super highly active event team right now. I get you're really passionate about events and always have been. It's your thing, I get it. But there's no real high demand for events right now. To me, it just looks like a select few crying about it because events are their main thing they like to do, and they don't get to do them as much as they'd like to.

I stand by my statement that ETs should stick to events and GMs should stick to moderating the game. If staff feel there's an issue with a lack of activity for hosting events, they'll sort the problem out when that time comes. But clearly they see no issue since it's been this way for a while.

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Originally Posted by León

The rule is valid upon those who weren't event team members in the past or became gm after 2013, from what I see it's only 3 gms and two of them don't host anyway.

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IMO Charm should be able to host events. I've seen her host since she was trial and as long as her net doesn't start spiking I see no reason why Charm can't host events... It's easy brush off sure if you're a GM who can host events but literally never does, but if Charm was able to host it'd definitely help all the people in her timezone who want events but barely get them. But yeah that's also IF Charm wants to host at like 4pm her time.


Edit : I've barely seen Legman or Connor host so idk... that's why the rule that was put up weirds me out. But I also believe if you are in charge of player reports, and punishing players and shit , there's no reason why you can't host an event.

TBH if all the GM's hosted, they'd jack all the good events in our 24 hour period and we'd be hostin gun game 4 times a week.

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Not confused at all bro. Events aren't what keep the people on this game. Events are merely an "extra feature" to bring people together that are already playing this game. They keep their players through updates, unique releases of game modes and items, etc. A lot of people have been on and off playing GunZ since day 1 of Ijji. The nostalgia factor keeps people going and coming back, not events. Some old player isn't thinking "BRO I CAN'T WAIT TO REDOWNLOAD THIS P SERVER AND JOIN A HIDE N SEEK EVENTO MEN" lol they're thinking to come on, hopefully bump into some old friends, train for weeks to months, get better and play the game.

And honestly, there aren't many people left to bring together in the community we have right now, hence why events are typically always filled with the same exact players. On a good day you'll find between 200-250 online if you're lucky. Typically it's under 200 and roughly anywhere between 130 and 200 people online (not all of them actively playing mind you). If you really sit there and go through the list of lobbies, you'll find that the majority of players are AFK in the lobby or even AFK in the rooms themselves. Sometimes I see people online but AFK for a couple of days, they pop on and say hi to a few people, then go AFK for another couple of days. I remember I counted once and when there were 200 players on and exactly half of them were AFK, and it was noticeable they were AFK for a long period of time. Half of those AFK players were in training rooms with hundreds of deaths or in a game room of a passworded room titled "AFK" or something that implied they were AFK lol. Some you'd see AFK in a game room, log off for a few hours, come back on and that same ***** still AFK in that same game room. There's really no need for a super highly active event team right now. I get you're really passionate about events and always have been. It's your thing, I get it. But there's no real high demand for events right now. To me, it just looks like a select few crying about it because events are their main thing they like to do, and they don't get to do them as much as they'd like to.

I stand by my statement that ETs should stick to events and GMs should stick to moderating the game. If staff feel there's an issue with a lack of activity for hosting events, they'll sort the problem out when that time comes. But clearly they see no issue since it's been this way for a while.

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Yo Eddie, this guy named sEx_MoVeS from Brazil told me he bikes to a cafe every day to catch GunZ events man... I'm definitely not saying that events are the pillar that holds a server up, but like please don't downplay their importance either :( I host events with some awesome people, and to be honest I have a good time most of the nights. I definitely know some peeps who are in it for the events. If the players aren't having a good time it means I'm not either you know... Events are definitely like a different world within GunZ.

Id have to agree with cid, events are something that keeps many people playing the game. I probably never would have returned without them and so would many other people probably not be here at all.

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IMO Charm should be able to host events. I've seen her host since she was trial and as long as her net doesn't start spiking I see no reason why Charm can't host events... It's easy brush off sure if you're a GM who can host events but literally never does, but if Charm was able to host it'd definitely help all the people in her timezone who want events but barely get them. But yeah that's also IF Charm wants to host at like 4pm her time.


Edit : I've barely seen Legman or Connor host so idk... that's why the rule that was put up weirds me out. But I also believe if you are in charge of player reports, and punishing players and shit , there's no reason why you can't host an event.

TBH if all the GM's hosted, they'd jack all the good events in our 24 hour period and we'd be hostin gun game 4 times a week.







Yo Eddie, this guy named sEx_MoVeS from Brazil told me he bikes to a cafe every day to catch GunZ events man... I'm definitely not saying that events are the pillar that holds a server up, but like please don't downplay their importance either :( I host events with some awesome people, and to be honest I have a good time most of the nights. I definitely know some peeps who are in it for the events. If the players aren't having a good time it means I'm not either you know... Events are definitely like a different world within GunZ.

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To be completely honest, as you might be right, the original purpose of "EVENT" as it's name states is something that is not casual and being hosted every 5 minutes.

Therefore it is acceptable the way it is now, at least in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by León

To be completely honest, as you might be right, the original purpose of "EVENT" as it's name states is something that is not casual and being hosted every 5 minutes.

Therefore it is acceptable the way it is now, at least in my opinion.

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but we're not talking about an event every 5 minutes, and it also shouldn't be 1 set every 24 hours, just like those who are currently event moderators have written and agreed on hosting 3 and sometimes 4 sets a day in their applications.

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but we're not talking about an event every 5 minutes, and it also shouldn't be 1 set every 24 hours, just like those who are currently event moderators have written and agreed on hosting 3 and sometimes 4 sets a day in their applications.

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They did not agree on hosting 3 or 4 sets a day, they think that's the appropriate amount of sets per day.

Hosting 3 or 4 sets a day would mean you'd have to spend at least 6 hours a day hosting events, you think that sounds reasonable for one person?

People have lifes, they do this on their spare time and their daily life keeps changing. We're not getting paid here so what you're asking for is unreasonable, you'll get that once you start paying your own bills I guess.

You need to learn how to appreciate their work instead of thinking of them as your slaves, I can't believe how someone can be so ungrateful.

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but we're not talking about an event every 5 minutes, and it also shouldn't be 1 set every 24 hours, just like those who are currently event moderators have written and agreed on hosting 3 and sometimes 4 sets a day in their applications.

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everyone write that, but of course none will host 3-4 sets alone, it meant in general well bunny stop acting dumb smh. and relax
I find it okay, gunz wasn't made for events i mean its ok to have less events , let us tdm or cw, as you see event take 32 players minimum.
and to be honest events are being hosted daily so relax event points collector.

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Hosting 3 or 4 sets aday would mean you'd have to spend at least 6 hours a day hosting events, you think that sounds reasonable for one person?

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i never said it does, and thats why we don't only have 1 event moderator doing all the work.

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i never said it does, and thats why we don't only have 1 event moderator doing all the work.

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Yet thats what you were hinting at so wtf are you even saying lmao

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Yet thats what you were hinting at so wtf are you even saying lmao

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they agreed that 3 or even 4 sets a day sounds reasonable for the event team. you said one person cannot do it, and i said thats why we dont have 1 event moderator.
is that simple logic so hard to comprehend?
where in my words did i hint that 1 event moderator is supposed to do all the work?

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they agreed that 3 or even 4 sets a day sounds reasonable for the event team. you said one person cannot do it, and i said thats why we dont have 4 event moderators.
is that simple logic so hard to comprehend?

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Thats not what you said at all. You quoted leo and said they all agreed on hosting 3 or 4 sets a day, implying they should do it on their own, now you're saying they should split it. Read what you're writing before you're trying to act all smartass.

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Thats not what you said at all. You quoted leo and said they all agreed on hosting 3 or 4 sets a day, implying they should do it on their own, now you're saying they should split it. Read what you're writing before you're trying to act all smartass.

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then I apologize if you did not understand what I was saying properly. I was saying, just like they wrote in their apps that there should be 3 or even 4 sets a day hosted by the event team, it shouldn't drop down to 1 set a day especially when they're the ones that are making the change in all that regards to that.

this is the main reason I've posted this suggestion in the first place.
if (event moderators cannot do enough sets a day because of real life and other stuff which is acceptable and understandable)
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do not at the very least prevent other staff members willing to host from being able to with non-rightful generalized rules;
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just like those who are currently event moderators have written and agreed on hosting 3 and sometimes 4 sets a day in their applications.

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Originally Posted by Bunny

where in my words did i hint that 1 event moderator is supposed to do all the work?

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If you actually use your brains, you do realize you're implying that each event moderator should host 3/4 sets a day, NOT as a team.

Would love to see Bunny as an E.T hosting 3/4 sets everyday.. LUL..

You should be thankful this server has an Event Team that does events 2-3 times a day for you.

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Would love to see Bunny as an E.T hosting 3/4 sets everyday.. LUL..

You should be thankful this server has an Event Team that does events 2-3 times a day for you.

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then I apologize if you did not understand what I was saying properly. I was saying, just like they wrote in their apps that there should be 3 or even 4 sets a day hosted by the event team, it shouldn't drop down to 1 set a day especially when they're the ones that are making the change in all that regards to that.

this is the main reason I've posted this suggestion in the first place.
if (event moderators cannot do enough sets a day because of real life and other stuff which is acceptable and understandable)
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do not at the very least prevent other staff members willing to host from being able to with non-rightful generalized rules;
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good job on repetition.