A way to the clanwars going

So , as you guys can tell.. clan wars are truly inactive right now. Only the top 6/7 clans war occasionally with the top 3 clans cwing frequently. The one hundred dollars is not getting enough people inspired to compete at a serious level. My clan, Dropped, only clanwar'd for three days before I decided to give leadership to an alt and kick everyone due to the clan's inactiveness, and it's rank is 9. We only clanwar'd from the 1st to the 3rd with minimum help/effort, only gaining maybe 150 or so points, and the clan is still rank 9.

Plus, people have to ask one another in-game if they want to clan war, so clan wars are not spontaneous. A way to fix this is by allowing for a coin reward system with each clanwar. It would work as follows: If you beat a clan with 1000-1099 points, you will recieve 0 coins. If you beat a clan with 1100-1199 points, you will recieve 1 coin. If you beat a clan with 1200-1299 points, you will recieve 2 coins, and so on. If your clan is streaking 10+, you will recieve a muliplier for your coin reward. 11 streak: 1.1 muliplier 12 streak: 1.2 muliplier, up to a 2.5 multiplier (25 streak). If the difference between the two clans are more than 400, points, the clan with the greater points will not recieve coins as a reward due to expectancy of winning. So, how does this sound? Thank/Comment on this thread Johnny/Mythiq

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Originally Posted by Johnny

So , as you guys can tell.. clan wars are truly inactive right now. Only the top 6/7 clans war occasionally with the top 3 clans cwing frequently. The one hundred dollars is not getting enough people inspired to compete at a serious level. My clan, Dropped, only clanwar'd for three days before I decided to give leadership to an alt and kick everyone due to the clan's inactiveness, and it's rank is 9. We only clanwar'd from the 1st to the 3rd with minimum help/effort, only gaining maybe 150 or so points, and the clan is still rank 9.

Plus, people have to ask one another in-game if they want to clan war, so clan wars are not spontaneous. A way to fix this is by allowing for a coin reward system with each clanwar. It would work as follows: If you beat a clan with 1000-1099 points, you will recieve 0 coins. If you beat a clan with 1100-1199 points, you will recieve 1 coin. If you beat a clan with 1200-1299 points, you will recieve 2 coins, and so on. If your clan is streaking 10+, you will recieve a muliplier for your coin reward. 11 streak: 1.1 muliplier 12 streak: 1.2 muliplier, up to a 2.5 multiplier (25 streak). If the difference between the two clans are more than 400, points, the clan with the greater points will not recieve coins as a reward due to expectancy of winning. So, how does this sound? Thank/Comment on this thread Johnny/Mythiq

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Actually, thats a pretty good idea, no wonder never crossed my mind in all those years :p
You have my support, hopefully they listen :)

(we still have to admit that the monthly prize has somewhat risen the competitiveness and activeness of the cw channel.)

io

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Originally Posted by KoreanAim

Actually, thats a pretty good idea, no wonder never crossed my mind in all those years :p
You have my support, hopefully they listen :)

(we still have to admit that the monthly prize has somewhat risen the competitiveness and activeness of the cw channel.)

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yeah man we gotta have a server where cws are constant and we dont have to stay up for really long.. this will bring more people in the server, not to mention good players that can actually speak english.

i'd love to see the clan war more active. it's actually pretty active right now to be honest.. but it's quite late. Still, it is the same people who cw.. i agree.

There is too many stupid game modes that take people's eyes off cwar. IMO.

Actually banning 90% of the players in sunflower and leaf would make it more active

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Originally Posted by Courage

Actually banning 90% of the players in sunflower and leaf would make it more active

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idk rick bro theyre just on a different level than us :/

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Originally Posted by Johnny

So , as you guys can tell.. clan wars are truly inactive right now. Only the top 6/7 clans war occasionally with the top 3 clans cwing frequently. The one hundred dollars is not getting enough people inspired to compete at a serious level. My clan, Dropped, only clanwar'd for three days before I decided to give leadership to an alt and kick everyone due to the clan's inactiveness, and it's rank is 9. We only clanwar'd from the 1st to the 3rd with minimum help/effort, only gaining maybe 150 or so points, and the clan is still rank 9.

Plus, people have to ask one another in-game if they want to clan war, so clan wars are not spontaneous. A way to fix this is by allowing for a coin reward system with each clanwar. It would work as follows: If you beat a clan with 1000-1099 points, you will recieve 0 coins. If you beat a clan with 1100-1199 points, you will recieve 1 coin. If you beat a clan with 1200-1299 points, you will recieve 2 coins, and so on. If your clan is streaking 10+, you will recieve a muliplier for your coin reward. 11 streak: 1.1 muliplier 12 streak: 1.2 muliplier, up to a 2.5 multiplier (25 streak). If the difference between the two clans are more than 400, points, the clan with the greater points will not recieve coins as a reward due to expectancy of winning. So, how does this sound? Thank/Comment on this thread Johnny/Mythiq

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how about NO?
this just means free coins for sunflower clan lol

Great idea Johnny.

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Originally Posted by redduivel

how about NO?
this just means free coins for sunflower clan lol

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How so, if they're the best clan, then they're probably 400 points higher than everyone else, and wont receive any coins. However, it would be too easy for clans in the 3000s to get coins, because every clan war with 2 clans at 3000 points awards them 20 coins. That's kind of ridiculous. You could just farm coins. I would say the following would be more resonable.

1000-1099 - 0 coins.
1100-1999 - 1 coin.
2000-2499 - 2 coins.
2500-2999 - 3 coins.
3000+ - 4 coins.

Even 4 coins is pushing it. You can earn yourself some serious coins just by farming for 1 day. And how could you prove whether or not 2 clans are swapping wins, if each clan decides to just take turns going easy and walking? Now it's possible to super farm, even at the above restrictions. You can probably do 1 clan war every 5 minutes, and if you can get 4 coins every 5 minutes, that's 48 coins per hour, and 288 coins in a 6 hour marathon.

The only true way to do something like this is say clans with more than 1500 rating can earn JUST ONE coin if they win a clan war (or something similar). And have that be the end of it. That's the only way to make it semi-unabusable.

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Originally Posted by Courage

Actually banning 90% of the players in sunflower and leaf would make it more active

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its funny because i actually enjoy fighting them since they are challenging unlike 90% of fg

i feel like everyone will compete for last place lmfao and let noobs get top ranks just to beat em

Good Idea, butttt there are people who just give free wins to people. I remember joining a clan just to troll cw with them and they just gave free wins to the other clan. So idk. It's a good idea and all but too much yolo.. Plus I scared everyone away from CW because I'm so godly.

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Originally Posted by Lemon

Good Idea, butttt there are people who just give free wins to people. I remember joining a clan just to troll cw with them and they just gave free wins to the other clan. So idk. It's a good idea and all but too much yolo.. Plus I scared everyone away from CW because I'm so godly.

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u scare away ppl from cw? and give free wins?
well ur just the whole package

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Originally Posted by Sparks

u scare away ppl from cw? and give free wins?
well ur just the whole package

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No lol... I joined a clan because I thought they actually wanted to CW and i wanted to troll them, but they just gave the other teams around then left and a win while I actually just played and did what I could lmfao.

Plus scaring people away is just a joke. We ALL know I'm bad lol.

People don't nerd on clanwar because they finally did the math and realized it's is definitely not worth it. You need more than 4 ppl in a clan to farm points and only 4 ppl will get rewarded the $100, of which btw is going to be split, so it would be $25 USD each. Meaning, nerd all day and nerd all night for 30 days and you only get $25. Not worth it; and people have begun to understand that.

Now as for this idea, it is stupid imo. Yes it would let people want to clanwar more, but what good is rewarding people with no ambition? It's not like they would be clanwarring to get to the top, they would just be clanwarring because they are coin hungry and that would just be a convenient way for ppl to farm coins. And if you are going to say sunflower is money hungry then yes, I completely agree, but at least they are money hungry kids with skill that takes them to rank 1 (of course there are a few kids in sunflower that are just terrible, but ya).

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Originally Posted by Bashy

People don't nerd on clanwar because they finally did the math and realized it's is definitely not worth it. You need more than 4 ppl in a clan to farm points and only 4 ppl will get rewarded the $100, of which btw is going to be split, so it would be $25 USD each. Meaning, nerd all day and nerd all night for 30 days and you only get $25. Not worth it; and people have begun to understand that.

Now as for this idea, it is stupid imo. Yes it would let people want to clanwar more, but what good is rewarding people with no ambition? It's not like they would be clanwarring to get to the top, they would just be clanwarring because they are coin hungry and that would just be a convenient way for ppl to farm coins. And if you are going to say sunflower is money hungry then yes, I completely agree, but at least they are money hungry kids with skill that takes them to rank 1 (of course there are a few kids in sunflower that are just terrible, but ya).

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honestly, i no lifed clan war for the first 2 weeks of the summer, not to get a prize but just cuz i legitimately found it fun. Then i got a job and i didnt have time to play as much.
The month before the $$ prizes came out, there was still a lot of competition around getting top 3 ranks, just with less unlegits.
As soon as the $ came rollin around, i don't feel theres more competition, just more unlegits doing anything they can to get their hands on 20$.

Although i might be wrong and the players are legitimate, guess we'll never know.

oh w8 what was that? theyre banned on other servers? but not fg?
oh ok thats cool

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Originally Posted by Lemon

No lol... I joined a clan because I thought they actually wanted to CW and i wanted to troll them, but they just gave the other teams around then left and a win while I actually just played and did what I could lmfao.

Plus scaring people away is just a joke. We ALL know I'm bad lol.

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10/10 signature tho

it's just unreallistic to have this system WITHOUT ppl abusing it

to me.. i could give a shit about the $. I love the competition and trying to make your clan and yourself stand out among the others. that's how it use to be back in the day... for the glory.

I agree with this system but seeing as they might raise the price of the current donors(Random thought) I would say make a totally different donor shop involving this CW shizzle. They have Donor shop, Event shop, Why not Clanwar Shop. Or use the existing clanwar points to use in said clanwar shop for perks, Gear, guns, Etc...I hope you understand what i mean haha.

As I said in the suggestion thread:

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We cannot make people want to clan war, simply put, you can only invest so much money into something before it hits its peak, capping your capital. (Honestly I think 100 dollars for silly clans is already way too much capital to begin with.) The more money you push into something does not mean an equal number of players will join because of it. In reality, the only ones that will benefit from your plan are they ones already clan warring now and perhaps a few more people, but at what gain? They will simply leave deathmatches to play clan wars, it will not gain any new players.

These numbers are fake, but they are an example of what I mean by the term "capping your capital."

Spoiler!

http://puu.sh/3expT.png

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I believe giving 100 usd is silly as the monthly clan war prize. I'd prefer if the top 3 clans get donor coins or event coins and other clans below rank 3 also do get rewarded with a small amount of event coins

This is a good idea but its never going to happen.

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@ones saying they would swap wins, how about if u do

win = +1 coin
lose = -1 coin

Ofc there will be some retards who will try to swap, but it would be the same as the current system implemented.

This is a pretty good idea, it should be listened.

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Originally Posted by KoreanAim

BUMP!

@ones saying they would swap wins, how about if u do

win = +1 coin
lose = -1 coin

Ofc there will be some retards who will try to swap, but it would be the same as the current system implemented.

This is a pretty good idea, it should be listened.

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What if someone has 0 coins? They will still CW if they can continue with negative values.

you could have a new currency called CW coins. enough CW coins allows you to buy 7 day donors or something like that.

Hmm how about giving for example all the ppl who did more then 500+ CW Points will recieve 50 coins in the end of the month so it doesn't really matter on what rank u are..

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Originally Posted by Dave

What if someone has 0 coins? They will still CW if they can continue with negative values.

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Im aware of that, but, as i said before, it would be the same risk as the current system. Plus in the idea johnny stated, only clans with above some descent points will score coins to others, so they will just not simply make a clan to swap.

Of course the coins would be added at the end of the month by some calculation of the +'s - -'s.

i dont think any of these things will work, whenever you play against compton / sunflower people will rq, because these do autowin you '-'

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Originally Posted by Ben

i dont think any of these things will work, whenever you play against compton / sunflower people will rq, because these do autowin you '-'

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People like you make me sick, this lack of competition, don't you find it more interesting when you're fighting challenging oponents? my god...

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Originally Posted by KoreanAim

People like you make me sick, this lack of competition, don't you find it more interesting when you're fighting challenging oponents? my god...

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Yes i do, but some 'noobs' like me do rq after a couple of loses against way stronger clans if you understand my point.. '-'

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Originally Posted by Ben

Yes i do, but some 'noobs' like me do rq after a couple of loses against way stronger clans if you understand my point.. '-'

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Yes, but this idea will make other clans but sunflower to be active in clan war, so you dont have to worry about lose streaks.
I understand being negative about the idea cuz people keep bragin at how big the difference is between top clans and others, but this still is a good idea for those clans who does not manage to rank it up to the top 3 and they will still get rewarded for they effort and spirit competition.
Evenmore, i even think this idea will get cw channel even more active than the current system, cuz this will affect more people lol.

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Originally Posted by KoreanAim

Yes, but this idea will make other clans but sunflower to be active in clan war, so you dont have to worry about lose streaks.
I understand being negative about the idea cuz people keep bragin at how big the difference is between top clans and others, but this still is a good idea for those clans who does not manage to rank it up to the top 3 and they will still get rewarded for they effort and spirit competition.
Evenmore, i even think this idea will get cw channel even more active than the current system, cuz this will affect more people lol.

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true true, its a good idea, thats not it, we should try it, it might work.
but i'm not convinced about it.

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Originally Posted by Ben

Yes i do, but some 'noobs' like me do rq after a couple of loses against way stronger clans if you understand my point.. '-'

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but why should some losses affect your game?
as long as you tried your best and had fun, the end result is meaningless.

if you can't beat them using "pro" techniques, why not grab some nades or do the ol' kamikaze attack?

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Originally Posted by ijjiMilan

but why should some losses affect your game?
as long as you tried your best and had fun, the end result is meaningless.

if you can't beat them using "pro" techniques, why not grab some nades or do the ol' kamikaze attack?

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stay out of it, you obvious dont get my point.
its about getting more cw's active, but if they keep losing it wont be fun, and may result into ragequit of cw, which causes less cw's '-'

new cw matchmaking system.

server remembers last 3 clans your clan played against.
every 30 seconds new CW's. all clans that are queued at the end of these 30 seconds will be matched up with another clan, preferably a clan that is not in their recent cw history, or as long ago as possible.

+ rewarding system for non top clans. maybe cw points or something like that you can spend on temporary donors or cw exclusive sets.

This is quite an interesting idea.. if fine-tuned enough, I think it may possibly work.
+1 Support.

Alright I'm kind of confused now, multiple people suggested different things in this thread. I'm not sure what y'all agree to.

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Originally Posted by Dave

Alright I'm kind of confused now, multiple people suggested different things in this thread. I'm not sure what y'all agree to.

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cw matchmaking is just for preventing loss streaks because people will be able to play against different enemies most of the time. also prevents dodging. which isn't fun for the top clans.

rest they are asking for is some reward for the non top clans to give incentive to play. could be CW exclusive items, or things like donor coins.

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Originally Posted by Dave

Alright I'm kind of confused now, multiple people suggested different things in this thread. I'm not sure what y'all agree to.

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just some new reward, i like tom his suggestion '-'
the cw point system, where you can buy exclusive items and sets.

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Originally Posted by Ben

stay out of it, you obvious dont get my point.
its about getting more cw's active, but if they keep losing it wont be fun, and may result into ragequit of cw, which causes less cw's '-'

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Buuut with this idea will make all kind of people willing to play at any day of the month a clan war rather than the current system which after the first 3 days of farming points, only the top clans keep playing.

To size all the conversation up:
Idea:
Beating a clan with "x" points will give and sustract the same amount of coins. (coins per points has to be thought)
For example, beating a clan with, lets say, 1100 points will add both players who clanwarred +1 score, and -1 to the losers.
At the end of the month, there will be a calculation of the wins and loses per player which will end up with the outcome of the month and the reward in coins.
A list of top players might be added as a hall of fame of top clanwarrers based on the win/lose ratio would be alright too to encourage the competition aswell.
If you have something to add, feel free to quote this :)

I don't think so.

Noobs who cant defeat the top rank clans would earn more money then the top ranks them selfs.
Many ppl wont donate anymore since its so ez too win coins. Cw would be very boring because ppl will camp all day againts us.

Bad idea.

I say you should make a shop for clanwar just like the event shop. Make them the same stats as the event shop, but have like a "legendary item" thats worth a lot of cw points that's the same as the limit breaker but a certain amount of days (around 7) it'll make people wanna cw and try to get the limit breaker for a week '-'

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Originally Posted by Azula

I don't think so.

Noobs who cant defeat the top rank clans would earn more money then the top ranks them selfs.
Many ppl wont donate anymore since its so ez too win coins. Cw would be very boring because ppl will camp all day againts us.

Bad idea.

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Once again, who the **** would camp against you? people who camp would be the same as the current campers? the **** you trying to say rofl.

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Originally Posted by Cute Nymph

I say you should make a shop for clanwar just like the event shop. Make them the same stats as the event shop, but have like a "legendary item" thats worth a lot of cw points that's the same as the limit breaker but a certain amount of days (around 7) it'll make people wanna cw and try to get the limit breaker for a week '-'

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No, can you imagine 2x limitbreakers users? one is pretty much overpowered, thanks.

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Originally Posted by KoreanAim

Once again, who the **** would camp against you? people who camp would be the same as the current campers? the **** you trying to say rofl.



No, can you imagine 2x limitbreakers users? one is pretty much overpowered, thanks.

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make it like the amount of cw points you think people can get in a month. so people actually have to work hard for it

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Originally Posted by Cute Nymph

make it like the amount of cw points you think people can get in a month. so people actually have to work hard for it

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Just no.. maybe unique clothing like crown or some new cool sets that developers might work in that (they need to start making new custom items, the peoplehhh's been requesting that xd), but no. another limitbreaker would make the server once again overpowered.

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Originally Posted by KoreanAim

BUMP!

@ones saying they would swap wins, how about if u do

win = +1 coin
lose = -1 coin

Ofc there will be some retards who will try to swap, but it would be the same as the current system implemented.

This is a pretty good idea, it should be listened.

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there clans have 200 wins +, so 200 coins? unfairly for Owner of server,BTW whos owner of this server?

noway

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Originally Posted by Azula

I don't think so.

Noobs who cant defeat the top rank clans would earn more money then the top ranks them selfs.
Many ppl wont donate anymore since its so ez too win coins. Cw would be very boring because ppl will camp all day againts us.

Bad idea.

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I Agree

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Originally Posted by CyanKid

there clans have 200 wins +, so 200 coins? unfairly for Owner of server,BTW whos owner of this server?

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Dave/Sic

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Originally Posted by CyanKid

there clans have 200 wins +, so 200 coins? unfairly for Owner of server,BTW whos owner of this server?

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you get - coins each times you lose, those clans lose coins aswell. You wanna earn 200 coins, go make a 200 cw streak, then yes.

Anyways, dont forget about the points calculation. There should be a table with crossed values that make for example:
Lets say if a clan with 1000 pts beats rank 1 clan = 3 coins
if rank 1 clan loses to 1000 pts clan = -3 coins.

This is just values that come to my mind right now, if this will be implemented there should be a better analysis of the situation to make it efficient.

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Originally Posted by Ben

stay out of it, you obvious dont get my point.
its about getting more cw's active, but if they keep losing it wont be fun, and may result into ragequit of cw, which causes less cw's '-'

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wins or losses shouldn't affect your fun.
if it is affecting it, then a new reward system would make no difference. no amount of prizes will increase your "fun" so you're contradicting yourself there.

Um, so what is the final decision? I haven't even checked back at this thread, did not expect to see such an amount of feedback.

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Originally Posted by Johnny

Um, so what is the final decision? I haven't even checked back at this thread, did not expect to see such an amount of feedback.

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I made an official poll about it. https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...an-War-Rewards

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Originally Posted by KoreanAim

Once again, who the **** would camp against you? people who camp would be the same as the current campers? the **** you trying to say rofl.



No, can you imagine 2x limitbreakers users? one is pretty much overpowered, thanks.

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U are too stupid too know. And stop thinking ur a king. U are just a regular player. Now stfu. U get ignored anyway slit eye.