Getting bored of being killed by them. 1 hit from a donation sniper+3 bullets from riflex2/smg = dead.
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Getting bored of being killed by them. 1 hit from a donation sniper+3 bullets from riflex2/smg = dead.
Agree. Nerf em, dont remove em.
Snipers take aim, and good aim. more aim then you need with shotties. So most people who use them, got good aim.
Doesn't make the sniper OP, it tells you that the guy which uses them has good aim.
They have only 1 or 2 shots, makes sense their high damage.
Only with a headshot with railgun or donor sniper.
There is no otherway to 1hit with a sniper.
In most FPS games snipers are 1hit, I know they shouldn't be in Gunz, but be happy their not 1 hit here.
I barely see people use a rifle as 2nd weapon. Most people who snipe have 2 snipers.
You guys are ******ed... seriously, snipers are meant to 1-2 shot... they are "SNIPERS" aka in FPS games you get 1 shot with them... and like I said in a previous thread about snipers made by Moh, it is pointless to make these kind of threads because nothing is going to happen. I want the snipers to be completely removed... nerfing them makes no sense at all... because snipers are meant to do 1-2 shots.... anyway either remove them ( which will never happen either) or just leave them like this and stop bitching about it.
Its still better than a 2 shot in 3 seconds ._.
I'd like to see them removed but it probably wont happen, so im fine with a nerf.
You wanna take about realism in GUNZ?????????
Does it make sense that slashing the wall makes you fly???
Better nerf Zed.
Dodge the bullets faster.
I'm sorry but that's quite stupid. You want people to 4-5 shot with snipers? Oh man...............................................................................................................................
I hope you know if we change it to 4-5 shots it will be 1/4 hp every shot, which is barely anything, you can med once and recover a sniper shot. Very smart right?
I just would like to see for the sniper+riflex2/smg combo to be nerfed. If you play any half decent Sniper+rifle combo it forces you to camp, which is bad for gameplay.
Also why are the level 99 riflex2 stronger than donation smg & donation rifle?
Are u foked, it takes u 5 rockets to the face to die?
In real life it wouldnt take 30~ bullets from a rifle to kill someone.
I want a fun game, not a realistic game '-'
when the **** did i mention a damage reduction, dumbass
i was talking about a recoil or delay change, dont assume shit .___.
Ok! Let's talk about realistic stuff! :D
1. You can't slash a wall and climb it.
2. You can't hang on a wall while climbing it.
3. You can't flip someone with a sword.
4. 1 shot with a shotgun would be 1-2 shots depending on the placement of the bullet.
5. No meds.
6. No speed vials.
Would you like me to stop here or continue?
Like I said come play in-game with me. I'll go sniper+rifle on your ass and you go with your shotguns or whatever. See if you find it fun to play against, and how you truely feel about the balancing.
It gets even worse in 2v2,3v3,4v4 situations because people will be low hp beforehand and snipershots will often kill.
At the end of the day.
Just because you get hit by a sniper once and then basically get sprayed to death and cry about it.. won't get it nerfed nor removed. Honestly, you can block the bullet (if they aim for the chest) and it's a matter of actually moving around instead of going straight at them or just going left and right. Sure, it's annoying and I hate when it happens to me but oh well. That means i'm not going fast enough if they can pull out their sniper, scope down, and shoot by the time I can move away and rs them.
If you see the sniper, move away from their LoS (Line of Sight) and get to their flank side then gun them down or sword hero them.
'-'
I lol'd Irl.
Every time I beat a "Pro" in cw shit like this gets made on forums.
First its Nerf Rev. Then Its Nerf Spray. Then Its Nerf SHOP spray. Then Its Remove sniper. Then its Nerf Sniper. Kids like you aren't happy with anything. Now stop bitching about it.
It's annoying when someone cw's with a donation snipe.
Most you donar noobs expect to go 50-0 in a non donar room just because you donated.
News flash kids, donating doesn't mean you auto win.
Your just mad because now that snipers came out non donars stand a chance vs you and you can't walk and spam no more.
How fun another sniper thread.
But like I said in a previous sniper thread, we should add more recoil to them and adjust the dmg a by a little.
Decrease damage by 10, increase delay by half a second
Sooo many sniper threads :P
Just use [SGO] :P
aand suuuck it up during cws :)
Problem is, people don't want to limit the entire game to just shotguns to stop the usage of one set of weapons.
Snipers do way too much damage. The logical option would be to reduce the damage significantly, and increase the delay if it still needs more tweaking.
Another option I think could work, is force sniper damage to have to go through AP first, since the main problem is the HP damage it provides. (Not sure if possible)
Sniper rifles promote stagnant gameplay and generally ruin GunZ as a whole. There's simply no competitive play, work-around, restrictions or counter-play associated with sniper rifles. Revolvers are supposed to be the "snipers" of GunZ.
The most balanced servers include snipers, but they are either not anti-lead, or they are damage balanced. For example, like the Breaker-Avenger concept (that's not currently here, for some reason) is "More damage - less ammo" could be implemented as such. Normal Revs do 50 damage, so Snipers should do around 75, but being much more accurate, but having less ammo. Similar to Breakers having 9 damage and 5 shots, and Avengers having 11 damage and 2 shots.
Also: a No Sniper Rifles tag would do a LOT of good for the general public.
On a final note, yes, other games have sniper rifles and people would like to see sniper rifles in GunZ, but it's simply not fair in the current state of the game. Call of Duty is probably the biggest influence of why people want to have snipers in the first place. People like to quick scope and such, and that's simply why people spam them. However the competitive aspect of CoD is quite different than the pubs that mostly everyone participates in. In competitive play (or Promod modification that is mostly used in tournaments) there is only ONE sniper on each team. Why? Because that's what it's limited to. The game would be far too stagnant and not interesting/fun/competitive if everyone sat and spammed snipers. It's simply unfair that way.
That is all.
Just Dodge It! It's so easy
Don't complain
/Noforme
I love how people complain about how OP snipers are and how they ruin GunZ game play.
****ing look at the 200 coin sgs. It's like ****ing 700 delay and OP as hell. Buy those and it's auto win vs most regular donar items and non donars. If those sgs aren't ruining GunZ Game play, then how are shop sprays and shop snipers ruining it. Just because its not auto win anymore doesn't mean you have to remove it. Get it inside your stupid heads that you Cannot expect to win by just paying.
At that note, you should also realize Shotguns aren't the primary weapons most people use. On Aeria 80% of the people there use sprays, sgs are only for those "Oldgens". On FGunZ, there are usually 200-250 people on. 60ish of those people are in beginner channel, where people hardly use sgs. In those 190- people on , the majority are in CTF and fast exp rooms, where only the full tank donars use Sgs. The rest of the people are in duel and TDMs, and lots of people use snipers and sprays in those big TDMs. Now what good will making GunZ only playable to Sgs if hardly anyone uses it anymore.
Voted a Yes on this. Sniper is really annoying with it's Damage. almost seeing it in any room '-' especially in Skill Map & Poke Stadium.
I don't really care if they're going to be nerfed or not.
I just dodge the shots, move a lot and kill them afterwards.
there was this guy, pro as hell with sniper flora spam ld and dat guy still aim him easy
When I saw the title I thought it was,
http://brasilmares.com.br/site/wp-co...review-764.jpg
xD but ya I change my vote to no. Snipers are fine just the way they are, If another donor wep changes imma just die. Cannon rocket no longer shoots spams 3, donor meds no longer spam, and 11's are no longer 11's. If you guys really want to change it you the players ( sense superwaffle and mcsic won't), should offer everyone who paid for a donor sniper coins, because it looks like you either 1 you cannot aim therefore you cannot you cannot kill, 2 you cant afford them, 3 someone be trolling you with them and your not good enough to fight back.
Gotta Catch em' All ;D I have all except the avatars -_- and the meds, i just have uber meds.
Agree.
the lowest delay shotguns are 800, theyre only OP in [r] rooms. it's obviously stronger than normal donation items but it's not quite as bad as you make it out to be. yes, donor items are OP compared to non donors, but as soon as you get the 9dmg shotguns you're not completely helpless anymore.as defekt pointed out very clearly it makes for stagnant gameplay. people use snipers because its a no-skill option, once you hit someone with it you're bound to kill him/her unless you suck ass. now shut up with your lame ass arguments all to save your OP clanwar tactics.
If you'd nerf them they got actually no chance at all, cause it's already really hard to aim to people that moves like shadow/light.
Even though I hate to play against these sniper hoe's too D:
I'm saying no, I think it's quite hard to aim with snipes although I use them quite a lot myself. People are complaining because it's either 1 or 2 shot kill. They have low delay and you can't spam them like you can with sg's. Just learn to dodge and move faster. That way it's quite easy to beat snipers. I'd say, keep em like this and just get good.
/Request lock.
rofl, aren't snipers supposed to be powerful, I can guarantee you that if I shoot you with a sniper irl you will die from just 1 shot.....
then why are there things like no-lead etc, to make the game more realistic. and there's things such as delay.
all to make the game more realistic and fun to play.
and the original gunz may have not wanted snipers but our devs did, so they made snipers realistic.
anywho, it doesn't matter what I say, because aslong as there are people who whine for updates and the update finally released they will just whine how it was better without.
so I rest my case '-'
3 sgpbs is dead?
This is ridiculous, don't nerf them. This is a weapon besides revolver, that actually requires aim.
Let's make GunZ into a low-budget Counter Strike type game. Rifles will now do 50 damage a pop, Revolvers will do about 150 damage, and instant kill head shot like snipers currently are. Shotguns can do about 40 per pellet, and snipers will have over 500 damage. Logic.
Back to the original point: the original creators never considered the issue of lead to be in the game, hence low pings on KGunZ where the issue of ping and leading is minimal. What would you rather have? Lead+UC+Force lag from everyone? Or Anti-lead?
Yes, I just suggested this in the suggestion thread. Do it!
You want the donation rifle, which is a SINGLE rifle and has 15 weight to do more damage than the rifles x2, which have more weight, etc.? Okay.
I don't think it's a problem if you have those gay ass overpowered UB3R Meds.
Btw, UB3R Meds are so OP! :(
UB3R meds should be the first things that should be fixed. With the extreme+ub3r combo you can med like 4-5 times in 1 second. When I feel like a troll, I let people shoot at me while I'm medding and I don't even come close to dying. And I only have 1 uber and 1 shop med. The max clip and delay is crazy.
+Voting on forums has no meaning. Most people who vote here are tank donars who enjoy fgunz by dropping non donars with spam sg's.
Scroll through the pages almost every1 is a VIP or donar, barely any non donars. Non donars don't use the forums lol. This vote is completely bias because the people that use the snipers aren't even on here to vote.
You guys want to nerf almost everything that is 'OP'.
Like girls that b*tch about almost every little small thing. (lol)
I got 1 shot with snipers yesterday in an A/D room. My reaction was literally 'wtf just happened'. But I think most of the sniper shots are just really lucky, although I'd like to see them get nerfed a bit. They should still be OP though.