[Community Poll] Balance System of Version 7 [Vote Now]

Hey guys,

since we're going to get Anti-Lead in the 7th version of Freestyle GunZ,
what would you like the HP and AP to be like?

Keep in mind that fights are shorter in Version 7, because you actually hit the enemies when you want to hit them (pb).

And to be a step ahead of the other servers, we're thinking about editing the stats of all clothes to give you double the amount of HP and AP when wearing them.

Right now, the best HP/AP combination (Ghost Set + Donation Set + 2 HP/AP Rings) would give you about 159 HP and 119 AP (I think).
In Version 7, the same combination would give you about 240 HP and 290 AP.

The new clothes balance system would stop the so called "5-second-fights" - but if you play in a room without Anti-Lead, the fights will take like.. forever.

Now, we don't know if we should use the new clothes balance system or not.

Or if we should just lower the damage of the revolvers and keep the other stats as they are (because revolvers seem to be overpowered with anti-lead).


The community knows best, you decide.


Cheers,
McSic

120hp 100ap best

Don't make a combination with 240 hp and 290 ap.
If people will die too fast, they will try to become faster, and harder to hit.
With 250 hp you wont give a damn about ur speed,you will have to just aim ur enemy and low his hp to zero.
Would be boring in my opinion.

McSic, i say u needa find a better balance other than doubling HP/AP. cuz that is a TON. maybe lower the dmg of weapons im not sure.

Do not change the stats.

is it possible to make game sensitive clothes? :P that shit would be inovative. have both clothes but only rooms with anti lead could have high hp clothes... then all kids b happi :>

it probobly culd be done twist but then they wuld have to stall the new client further lol

Do not change the stats!

Yeah, don't change the stats. Probably change the damage of op weapons.

I would have to say Lower the damage for the donater revovler .

McSic, give only higher hp/ap when anti-lead is on and when it is off u just have the normal hp/ap ? So when u buy clothes in store u see 2 differents hp/ap, 1 for when anti-lead is on and 1 for when it is off ?( sorry for my bad english xD)

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Originally Posted by Alessa

McSic, give only higher hp/ap when anti-lead is on and when it is off u just have the normal hp/ap ? So when u buy clothes in store u see 2 differents hp/ap, 1 for when anti-lead is on and 1 for when it is off ?( sorry for my bad english xD)

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Sorry, that's not possible yet.

Just change hotshot, donor rev and event revs stats. they're so op.

keep the ammount of hp/ap, just lower the op weapons and lower the general weapons just a litle bit

As i said before, dont make Fgunz turn into uber HP/AP gunz q-q.
Just lower the dmg of op weps if thats needed, else will be okay.

could just lower wep dmg lots n then instead of things increasingly beastly by dmg it could be delay that could make it better, that way newbs who can't rs and have donors can't be uber pros instantly

max AP = 135 ._.
Max HP = 120 :3

I agree with you Faith, as you said that seems to be a fair amount maybe 140 and 125 and Donors up too 160 or 170

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Originally Posted by McSic

Hey guys,

since we're going to get Anti-Lead in the 7th version of Freestyle GunZ,
what would you like the HP and AP to be like?

Keep in mind that fights are shorter in Version 7, because you actually hit the enemies when you want to hit them (pb).

And to be a step ahead of the other servers, we're thinking about editing the stats of all clothes to give you double the amount of HP and AP when wearing them.

Right now, the best HP/AP combination (Ghost Set + Donation Set + 2 HP/AP Rings) would give you about 159 HP and 119 AP (I think).
In Version 7, the same combination would give you about 240 HP and 290 AP.

The new clothes balance system would stop the so called "5-second-fights" - but if you play in a room without Anti-Lead, the fights will take like.. forever.

Now, we don't know if we should use the new clothes balance system or not.

Or if we should just lower the damage of the revolvers and keep the other stats as they are (because revolvers seem to be overpowered with anti-lead).


The community knows best, you decide.


Cheers,
McSic

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200/150

Normal : 120/120
Donor : 140/140

Stats right now lead to slow fights...why bother increasing them more.

Don't change the stats except revolvers. Voted for the wrong one ._.

Hotshot needs to be changed, not exactly revolvers.
https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...weapons-are-op


1. Level 95 Hotshot = 0.48
2. Donor Rifle = 0.385714286
3. Level 99 Dual SMGs = 0.377777778
4. Event Rifle = 0.371428571
5. Level 90 Dual SMGs = 0.355555556
6. Level 99 Spartan Rifle = 0.325
7. Level 99 Dual Spartan Rifle = 0.277777778

All do more than a revolver.

/yeah..
Like everyone else is saying
Just loser the dmg for OP weapons.
changing the hp/ap might have a big negative effect on the server, people will complain still because donor vs non donor will still be the same ratio. weather it be 1: 2 or 2: 4

Leave it at this:
Lets not become like EG trololol

250/250 hp/ap with normal gear + rings.

The stats are fine as they are right now, was an awesome balance in V6 (or before).
Just lower the revolvers (event/donor) 'n rocket (even/donor).

Make Shotgun high delay please.

Edit: Donor.

dont change anything :o

In my opinion, changing the status of armor for HP/AP would bring an unbalance system instead of a balance system. However, things that can be changed to improve the balance system, is lowering the damage for the donator revolver as most of you have said.

Donor sgs are too fast.
Donor-event revs are overpowered.
Hotshots and rockets are also OP.
And add every ijji weapon with their original lvl (pio lvl 40, golden lvl 50) and with their REAL STATS

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Originally Posted by Hana

Donor sgs are too fast.
Donor-event revs are overpowered.
Hotshots and rockets are also OP.
And add every ijji weapon with their original lvl (pio lvl 40, golden lvl 50) and with their REAL STATS

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this is not ijji .. ._.

No, don't do that... thats just a waste..

Normal Status without clothes 100/0
with clothes (sparta set) 121-114 orso.

normal ijji hp and ap men ...

change the donor items cause they're to overpowered and the event items.

The Donator Shotguns are suppose to be a bit more faster and +1 more damage then normal ones makes them the reason to Donate for. So Donator shotguns are good the way they r

for me the hp/ap are good comparing to weapon dmg but i think it would be good make the pistol dmg a little lower

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Originally Posted by McSic

Hey guys,

since we're going to get Anti-Lead in the 7th version of Freestyle GunZ,
what would you like the HP and AP to be like?

Keep in mind that fights are shorter in Version 7, because you actually hit the enemies when you want to hit them (pb).

And to be a step ahead of the other servers, we're thinking about editing the stats of all clothes to give you double the amount of HP and AP when wearing them.

Right now, the best HP/AP combination (Ghost Set + Donation Set + 2 HP/AP Rings) would give you about 159 HP and 119 AP (I think).
In Version 7, the same combination would give you about 240 HP and 290 AP.

The new clothes balance system would stop the so called "5-second-fights" - but if you play in a room without Anti-Lead, the fights will take like.. forever.

Now, we don't know if we should use the new clothes balance system or not.

Or if we should just lower the damage of the revolvers and keep the other stats as they are (because revolvers seem to be overpowered with anti-lead).


The community knows best, you decide.


Cheers,
McSic

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Donator:150/135
Normal:136/111
and change the Rev dmg to more lower

make the shot guns to 1000 delay if not already

Considering its Ammo Clip and Delay the Event and Donor Rifle need to be nerfed a bit.
Either Decreasing the Ammo or Increasing the Delay.
Damage,Ammo and Delay Boosts = No Downside = Not Balanced.

Revolvers need to be nerfed, especially the event revolver because it's a single barrel rev meaning it works better than a sniper rifle.

Stats'll be fine, people would just need to adjust to the change.

I may have misread this but i'm sure that I read somewhere that due to a change in the client, with it being similar to k-gunz it'll be easier to move faster which'll help people to adjust to the anti-lead a lot better.

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Originally Posted by HOMIESGUARDS

I would have to say Lower the damage for the donater revovler .

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Originally Posted by Alessa

McSic, give only higher hp/ap when anti-lead is on and when it is off u just have the normal hp/ap ? So when u buy clothes in store u see 2 differents hp/ap, 1 for when anti-lead is on and 1 for when it is off ?( sorry for my bad english xD)

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Originally Posted by Hype

Just change hotshot, donor rev and event revs stats. they're so op.

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Originally Posted by KiraiNimaka

keep the ammount of hp/ap, just lower the op weapons and lower the general weapons just a litle bit

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Originally Posted by Demure

As i said before, dont make Fgunz turn into uber HP/AP gunz q-q.
Just lower the dmg of op weps if thats needed, else will be okay.

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Originally Posted by TwisT

could just lower wep dmg lots n then instead of things increasingly beastly by dmg it could be delay that could make it better, that way newbs who can't rs and have donors can't be uber pros instantly

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Originally Posted by KingLoyal

Don't change the stats except revolvers. Voted for the wrong one ._.

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Originally Posted by Bunnychaser

Hotshot needs to be changed, not exactly revolvers.
https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...weapons-are-op


1. Level 95 Hotshot = 0.48
2. Donor Rifle = 0.385714286
3. Level 99 Dual SMGs = 0.377777778
4. Event Rifle = 0.371428571
5. Level 90 Dual SMGs = 0.355555556
6. Level 99 Spartan Rifle = 0.325
7. Level 99 Dual Spartan Rifle = 0.277777778

All do more than a revolver.

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Originally Posted by Gianpaolo

/yeah..
Like everyone else is saying
Just loser the dmg for OP weapons.
changing the hp/ap might have a big negative effect on the server, people will complain still because donor vs non donor will still be the same ratio. weather it be 1: 2 or 2: 4

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Originally Posted by Bulba

Make Shotgun high delay please.

Edit: Donor.

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Originally Posted by Hana

Donor sgs are too fast.
Donor-event revs are overpowered.
Hotshots and rockets are also OP.
And add every ijji weapon with their original lvl (pio lvl 40, golden lvl 50) and with their REAL STATS

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Originally Posted by Famous

No, don't do that... thats just a waste..

Normal Status without clothes 100/0
with clothes (sparta set) 121-114 orso.

normal ijji hp and ap men ...

change the donor items cause they're to overpowered and the event items.

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Originally Posted by HellSniper

Considering its Ammo Clip and Delay the Event and Donor Rifle need to be nerfed a bit.
Either Decreasing the Ammo or Increasing the Delay.
Damage,Ammo and Delay Boosts = No Downside = Not Balanced.

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To all of you saying to reduce the damage of the donor shotguns, or to nerf the donor revolver, you don't take into account something:

The donor revolver does not always do 80 damage like it says. It shoots two bullets, each one dealing 40 damage. If one the bullets hits, it's 40 damage. If the second bullet hits, it's 80 damage. This means that the event revolver is far more overpowered, dealing 75 damage even if you hit with only one bullet.

If anything, nerf the event revolver, not the Donor revolver. Do not increase the HP / AP pools any further than 160/130 because that will just make people, with the damage of the weapons, sit around and try to aim and shoot. If it were up to me, I would leave the HP at 135 and AP at 120 because then it would be up to aim and skill.

That is all. If you wish to dispute something with me, don't because I will win all arguments.

Thank you.

Yay someone with knowledge!

The donor revs should be lowered too but to atleast 65 because of the anti-lead. Donor revs with 80 dmg on anti-lead would cause a lot of rage :p
The event rev should just be nerfed entirely to 40/45. Honestly it's much easier to kill a person with two single revs because of the accuracy in comparison to duals, so with a 75 dmg single rev there would be no point in using shotguns. Well I personally wouldn't ever go back to shotguns. Or the damage could remain but, just don't give those event revs out so easily.

how about raise the donor SG delay?

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Originally Posted by TheHitman

how about raise the donor SG delay?

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That will mess everyone up...
But I think in new client non donor sgns have a much lower delay.. cuz right now they are so unfair.. they have like double delay even at level 99

Double hp/ap. Lower Revs damage. Now we got a beast severrrr. This year its going be Fgunz Era Taking over.

Donor/Event Revs damage down.
Donor Rifle damage down.
Donor SG Delay up a bit.
Hp/Ap increase by x1.75.
1Hit nade damage UPPP.

Can't you make it like the shotgun, at this distance it does that damage, and then when your this distance. ( Say like, sniperfar or some crap. ) It does that damage,

Add on, I accidently pushed enter. What I am trying to say is, do the hp like the damage system?

srsly, double hp/ap wtf?
now for kill somebody, we have to 1642 shot ROFL
+ the rest idc

remove ghost '-'

78% of these suggestions are fckin dumb
if srsly listen these suggestions -> **** gunz or even badder

u should make the donor revs around 60 dmg
Donor sgs 900 delay and the clip smaller like 6/6 or 5/5 (these matter alot)
stats can be tah same except the ghost -> smaller hp/ap than normal donor set because it has different benefits.
all of the other can stay as they are, except snipers

Hope you find the right decision for our future community Mcsic :D

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Originally Posted by Pulse

[...]To all of you saying to reduce the damage of the donor shotguns, or to nerf the donor revolver[...]

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Pulse, learn to read, i was talkin about the RIFLE not the Rev or Shotguns...

Yay for no Edit option, @ Mod, merge plox.

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Originally Posted by Hellish

Can't you make it like the shotgun, at this distance it does that damage, and then when your this distance. ( Say like, sniperfar or some crap. ) It does that damage,

Add on, I accidently pushed enter. What I am trying to say is, do the hp like the damage system?

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Thats a basic function Gunz uses since it was released by Maiet.
The shotgun shoots about 10 pellets, each of em start at the same spot but end up being far away from each other depending on how far they went.
Therefor, on a long distance, you get merely hit by 2 or 3 and get like no dmg.

honestly in my opinion you should just take the anti lead cause it takes skills to lead=D then u wouldnt have to change the clothes stats or weapions

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Originally Posted by HellSniper

Pulse, learn to read, i was talkin about the RIFLE not the Rev or Shotguns...

Yay for no Edit option, @ Mod, merge plox.

Thats a basic function Gunz uses since it was released by Maiet.
The shotgun shoots about 10 pellets, each of em start at the same spot but end up being far away from each other depending on how far they went.
Therefor, on a long distance, you get merely hit by 2 or 3 and get like no dmg.

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well said. (Y)

Max HP/AP should be like 150/140 with rings or some shit. Please don't double it -.-"

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Originally Posted by Tenshi

honestly in my opinion you should just take the anti lead cause it takes skills to lead=D then u wouldnt have to change the clothes stats or weapions

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it surely takes skills to lead, but how about if someone is 200+ ping? And btw, not leading also takes skills

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Originally Posted by HellSniper

Pulse, learn to read, i was talkin about the RIFLE not the Rev or Shotguns...

Yay for no Edit option, @ Mod, merge plox.

Thats a basic function Gunz uses since it was released by Maiet.
The shotgun shoots about 10 pellets, each of em start at the same spot but end up being far away from each other depending on how far they went.
Therefor, on a long distance, you get merely hit by 2 or 3 and get like no dmg.

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You're telling me to learn to read, but you clearly don't understand the mechanics of this game, or have very little knowledge of them. None of the weapons need to be nerfed except, maybe, the event revolver. Anyone saying otherwise needs to get good. Hitting often with a rifle takes skill to say the least, due to the fact that it's one bullet, and you can get glancing blows in this game despite arguments from other people. Revolvers, if you had read my post, only do half as much damage as they say if they are dual-revolvers. Shotguns shoot -12- bullets, each one dealing as much damage as the tool-tip lists.

Perhaps people just need to stop crying?

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well said. (Y)

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And you are? Agreeing with someone who has a colored name. That's all I know about you, so your post does not matter.

End of story, thank you.

ithy, you likes my topic? https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...weapons-are-op

OR Do not change the stats.
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Anti lead for all weaps except for rev :)

I'd say do it like getting paid time and a half. Divide the original Hp/ap of the set and add it to the normal amount. Probably will take a lot of time, but I think the outcome will be good.

Yeah If there would be double hp and ap, people would sit still and not die, while getting all the hits on the other guy.

good in my case, which increases HP and AP (they benefit those who have a set of donator)
that I have no gun.
would be to:
Donation Set + ghost + HP and AP rings = 240 HP and 290 AP
omg!
If we have that amount of HP and AP
be some real pros
but ... more HP and AP
Not for revolvers!
Davicho

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Originally Posted by [P]lanB

good in my case, which increases HP and AP (they benefit those who have a set of donator)
that I have no gun.
would be to:
Donation Set + ghost + HP and AP rings = 240 HP and 290 AP
omg!
If we have that amount of HP and AP
be some real pros
but ... more HP and AP
Not for revolvers!
Davicho

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Originally Posted by Yasuo

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lol <.<

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Originally Posted by [P]lanB

lol <.<

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HAHAHAAHAHAH
lol

Where can i find the announcement of the v7 patch?

Depend's with the revolvers if they damage are going to be bigger then it is right now...
But 240/290 is a bit to over powerd in my eye's
Like some real donator's with that amount of hp/ap with 90 meds...
That's kinda ridiclious lol.
Dont change anything (:

lower the revs to 60 dmg maybe? or just increase the delay higher like up to 400 if u do that ppl wouldnt spray with revs but actually aim with it

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Originally Posted by Bear

lower the revs to 60 dmg maybe? or just increase the delay higher like up to 400 if u do that ppl wouldnt spray with revs but actually aim with it

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Delay up to 450 or 500
Dmg down to 50 or 55

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Originally Posted by StephanM

Delay up to 450 or 500
Dmg down to 50 or 55

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delay should be 400 if its more i dont see whats the point of it being a rev -.- maybe 60 dmg?

Just throwing this out, Not sure if anyone mentioned it.
But, SG's will need to be nulled a bit.. Full donor is dead in 3 pb's (including donor HP/AP rings).
Imagine how quick the non-donors will die.

Donor's will be 5sec fights. Non-Donors will be 3sec fights. Lul. u.u;

Dont change stats <.<

Every thing i wanted to say has bin said so lets not repeat

Looks like "Do not change any stats - except revolvers." is winning.

did you guys do any thing to the dagger delay

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Originally Posted by SuperWaffle

Looks like "Do not change any stats - except revolvers." is winning.

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WTF HOW DID YOU KNOW?! o.o

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Originally Posted by slugheady

WTF HOW DID YOU KNOW?! o.o

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Do not change any stats - except revolvers.
52 42.98%


LOLOLOLOL FUNNY, 41 people are fkin dumb

Statics are good, only shotgun needs to be changed to normal ijji way.

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Originally Posted by slugheady

WTF HOW DID YOU KNOW?! o.o

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Dave can read minds.

Mcsic, just put the same cloths hp ap for the regular cloths like in old freestyle right now, nobody would complain that "Why are you not dieing" or "Hacker" and remember gunz made meds to heal and get the AP up going. so just put the same hp ap on every regular cloths,(The Same exact HP and AP rate like in the freestyler gunz now).that way its less work and, and easier to finish. After all nobody has bin complaining much ever since. just try what i said and see how it feels. Orrr, Maybe put the donation cloths less HP AP to make things fair for the none donation people.The new combination shouldn't be that high just put 150 HP 150 AP make it fair not harder for none donation people becuase they wont like that shiet at all. atleast put it down a little. The shotgunz and shiet can stay the way it is. Just try to make it fair for everybody to like FreeStyle gunz even more it depends if its Fair for the people.

Increase the damage of Donation weps xD

I Just like to change hp and ap because some one lvl 1 hp as some one lvl 20 or 30
Right???

125/125 no uber revs

GG FOR ANDY

this thread is still open .. lols
"Do not change any stats - except revolvers." will win

I hope, it will make the game better

Lowering the damage for revolvers by a fair margin would be the smartest idea, there very very OP on Anti-Lead, I experienced it elsewhere and I can say 80% of people I came across used revolvers and it really got boring as people were being 3 shot'd.

130HP/AP
150HP/AP (Rings)

Fact being: Shots will do much more dmg w/ no lead

GUYS, I have a better idea , let's delete racism. ~PlanB

All necessary things said already except for this one thing. At the moment double rifles do less damage than one rifle even if both bullets hit! o.O That's just weak...

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Originally Posted by Pulse

To all of you saying to reduce the damage of the donor shotguns, or to nerf the donor revolver, you don't take into account something:

The donor revolver does not always do 80 damage like it says. It shoots two bullets, each one dealing 40 damage. If one the bullets hits, it's 40 damage. If the second bullet hits, it's 80 damage. This means that the event revolver is far more overpowered, dealing 75 damage even if you hit with only one bullet.

If anything, nerf the event revolver, not the Donor revolver. Do not increase the HP / AP pools any further than 160/130 because that will just make people, with the damage of the weapons, sit around and try to aim and shoot. If it were up to me, I would leave the HP at 135 and AP at 120 because then it would be up to aim and skill.

That is all. If you wish to dispute something with me, don't because I will win all arguments.

Thank you.

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aim is also a skill


puned '-'

Double HP! Triple it even! 300/200! That will be fun, wouldn't it? Fun to see a bunch of ghosts dashing around with 300 hp!

i think the hp should be like 140/120 thats average i think.. isnt it?

well, 3 shotting is way to easy now a days with anti-lead so 150 hp/ap wouldnt be too bad.

Lol, everyone is voting not to change any stats except revolvers.


fail server after a month with anti-lead. :|

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Lol, everyone is voting not to change any stats except revolvers.


fail server after a month with anti-lead. :|

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just cuz u cant live without high dmg revs? XD

Why can't we just have 300 hp sets?

WHY CAN'T WE BE UNLIKE OTHER SERVERS?!

AntiLead with 150/150 hp/ap gonna fail
I would say 200/200 +

noo not true electricity..

Donation weps + antil lead + 150/150 is going to fail hard...

why not fking ijji setting on everything except Donor sg's and stuff they just go 1 dmg higher and delaye goes the same as its now..
OP on no lead is going to be Anoying as fk and will fail.

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double hp! Triple it even! 300/200! That will be fun, wouldn't it? Fun to see a bunch of ghosts dashing around with 300 hp!

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i totally agreew tith this man !

I Say No. Better lower the damage of the revolvers and make it only a single revolver coz if we get Anti-Lead all the dudes who can donate and can get gifted will buy offcourse the best weapon in the donate shop the revolver so better lower the damage of the revolver by 30 i guess?
so the damage would be 50.


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Stats should be more balanced on an ijji like scale. If the weapons here do 1.5 times more damage, hp/ap should be 1.5 times higher.

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Originally Posted by Tomboii

Stats should be more balanced on an ijji like scale.

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The problem is, Ijji's weapons go up to level 60, our weapons go up to lvl 99 - and we have about double the amount of weapons.
It's not easy to balance those.

"Do not change any stats - except revolvers" has won.

Thank y'all for your suggestions. We will consider them for FGunZ v7.
And thanks for voting!