Well, title says it, Do you think there's a god up there in the clouds wearing a long white robe standing on a cloud ?
Discuss. :l
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Well, title says it, Do you think there's a god up there in the clouds wearing a long white robe standing on a cloud ?
Discuss. :l
No.
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Nop.
; _ ;
/10char
I think there is but not in the sky lol.
i am god.
/10Galaxies
ofc i exist ;)
nice joke Galaxy,
made me lol.
literally.
Do u think god plays FGunz.
Proven. Ggnore.Quote:
Originally Posted by God
Religious topics aren't allowed, I believe.. /lock moaR?
God Burn u!
Sure there's a God
and all say omg the believe there's a God
yeah there is a god..
Not a religion topic, theological. Anyhoo, topic officially hijacked.
Cake > Pie.
Discuss.
I object.
/10pies.
There is a god.
/10char.
No spam or I lock this topic, and even though this is in Off-Topic, try to stay on the topic at hand. Or else.
Yes his name is bunnychaser lol and only he can let the wolrd be this eff up isnt that right bunny. This is all a big joke about global warning and wars lol
well yes there's is a god. Im asking my self who created us... some peeps would say we are the evolution of monkeys but who created the monkey... who created the first human ever... personally yes there is a god.
The question you pose is misleading. It implies that there is, in fact, a creator. You speak as if it's a given. What if there was no creator? That's the essence of this discussion. Those who are religious are scared of ceasing to exist when they die - and rightfully so! It's scary stuff. However, don't invent things to make yourself feel better. Some people might start believing you.Quote:
Originally Posted by XtrapX
i believe there is a god. sQuote:
Originally Posted by wowus
Then I pity you. I also love the lack of evidence supporting either side of this debate. It IS supposed to be a debate, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cows
LALALALALALA I WANNA SIT ON THE FENCE FOR THIS ONE LOL if there is a god i dont wanna be punished if there isnt i dont wanna idk =3
Some people agree some others don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by wowus
You shouldn't pity me on what i believe in.
Shit happens.
This is supposed to be a debate, not a "state your opinion with nothing backing it up". But then again, it'd be hard to argue in favor of religion without that. There IS nothing backing it up. You can't prove something doesn't exist... but if there's no evidence to the contrary, you should assume so.
I beleive everybody just turns into ghosts or demons when they die. nothing more. Because i have seen proof of them both, but have not seen any proof of a higher spiritual being such as god, satan, or w/e. And heaven is supposed to be like a happy place right, what happens when somebody gets mad at another person in heaven, and it ends up turning into a war in heaven. It just doesn't seem logical at all. naturally people get mad/fight each other, thus there can be no place that is nothing but happy people getting along. It all goes back to people saying and believing what they want to, because they are afraid of dieing.
not inventing im debating for my opinion <.<Quote:
Originally Posted by wowus
Then go learn what a debate entails. You offer proof. You don't just say "THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE!"
Go prove something.
You believe thats what your ment to do.
Yes. Yes I do. Now please provide some sort of evidence proving the existence of a god.
Lol there is not proof but when you die you will see the truth is there one or not like i really care but when you believe you never know live your life till you die and you will find out.
Now what do you believe?
"There is no proof."
Good job. You just effectively proved yourself wrong. How about I make a similar outrageous claim. "When you die, you decompose." Oh wait, that HAS proof.
So how you think this world was made?
Big bang rofl?
Haha you cannot prove it but you need to believe in it.
Yeah the bible or w/e you call yours say there is god that could be proof?
How do you know if its a lie or what just believe till the end.
Proof of the Big Bang:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n..._big_bang.html
Your turn. Offer proof. The Bible as proof just leads to circular reasoning, a major logical fallacy. "We know God exists because the Bible says so. How do we know the Bible is infallable? Because God says so."
Sorry for double-post, there's no edit button.
More detailed proof, the old link wasn't as good as I thought it was:
http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/The%20...g%20Theory.htm
Your controdicting yourself [How ever you spell] you know science is not always right? and what if that proof is false where they made up lies?
Look at the first man on the moon what if it was a set up to lie?
Ended.
Lawl. That will lead this whole religion debate onto whether or not the government is manipulating everything we see and do. Stay OT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Classic
So you're a conspiracy theorist too? Your credibility just gets lower and lower. I pity you.
Well if anything can be set-up as a lie, can't the bible also fit in that same situation?
Oh snap. What a pro. You just got ez'd.
I'm trying to say
What if the big bang was not real?
What if god was not real?
You don't know just believe end of.
Anything could be a lie.
And some things have more proof than others. It's the difference between believing the device you're currently on is something that uses electricity and believing you're invisible when you close your eyes.
we can know the answer when we die =3 its that simple lol
@wowus. People believe that there is a God because We have Faith.
If there was no creator how did world be here?
Oh wait, lemme guess.
I guess it was like "One day, a bacteria felt like mutating and then we came from monkey." -_-
The Bible was written by God.
On the New testament, they are mostly epistles(letters). If you ever read all of them, they all correspond and have similiar sayings. Would you think they all planned to lie? Seriously? Would these people spend their lives for him if they didn't see real miracles?
In the Bible, it says, "If you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can tell the mountains to move."
Yes, We, Christians, have faith.
Then, since the bible says so, drink some arsenic. After all, those with TRUE faith won't be harmed. Also, if one commits adultury (50% divorce rate, *****), he must be put to death. Read your bible son. Do you really support it fully? Also, your comment about "I guess it was like "One day, a bacteria felt like mutating and then we came from monkey." -_-" shows just how little you know about evolution. Do a simple google search some time.
I say no God. I don't wanna believe, and I never will believe. And I have a few questions for you Christians. If God is the creator of all things, why would he create rape, molestation, murder, and etc.? I don't see if he is so perfect why he would do such things.
he does murder cuz if we dont we would have so many babies the earth would go boom and rape? why not its just surprise *** =3 lol
Lol speaking on behalf of them.
He created the world then he left it to us for judgement day then he will collect the good people to paradise/heaven or w/e you call it.
[Its a test in life basiclly]
Well thats not what i think but w/e.
@ Taylor
Okay so killing other human lifeforms is okay to do? How bout I pop a cap in your ass, would that make you rethink your decision?
I'm god kktnxbai
/lock
Ok buddy. you wanna go?Quote:
Originally Posted by wowus
I'm sorry. I dont NEED to know any of that evolution. Oh wait I DONT CARE about it. Why? Bc it's some stupid theory that was made up.
Ok. First of all, those were ancient things that were done long B.C. time. If God said to do that, we should. Oh wait, in this humanitary world, we can't. Why would we waste our lives doing that. I am pretty sure God would want us to rather spread the good news , then kill them. After all,
For God so loved the world, that he gave up his only begotten Son and whoever Believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16.
God loves everybody.
@ Shin
Why does he love everybody. I don't want God to love me, if he even is real. If I had to choose between Heaven and Hell, I would burn in Hell. I guess I'll perish.
Are you dumb? He didn't create rape. Those are the Satan Temptations put on us. Satan(inside the snake) tempted Adam and Eve to eat the apple. They DID. So after all mankind, we all keep hold of sin. Yes. YOU ARE a SINNER.Quote:
Originally Posted by ike
Why does God allow it?
He doesn't. He gave all the Christian Believers the Holy Spirit to avoid all these things and spread the Good news. -_- You are dumb.
Ok Ilk.
Why does he love you?
B.c. he CREATED you...
Ok. If you choose to burn in hell, that will be your choice. I hope you know, it's an everlasting flame, torture, complete darkness, painful, neverending pit. :] choose that path if you must.
All you believers will be in the paradise at the heaven with God, rejoicing.
ugh nope cuz it was destiny and i know u wont do that :P and there was a meaning for my death then lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ike
i laugh out loud at Ilk.
>.<
Ok God doesn't allow murder for your fking dumb mind.
But he does forgive sin. And murdering does become forgiveable.
AND NO.
If when you ASK for forgiveness, you are making a promise that you will not do it again.
And yet he says to stone those who he doesn't love? A little bit hypocritical, don't you think? And I lol'd at your "I DONT CARE ABOUT IT SO I WON'T DO RESEARCH." If you want to argue against something, you should at least know a pittance about it. And I love how you supercede one bible verse with another. Does that mean that only PARTS of the bible are right? How do you know which part? That's right, you MAKE IT UP.
Fine, you guys stop using logic, so will I. Time to blaspheme!
http://i42.tinypic.com/33m0pch.jpg
He did not create me, I can tell you that now. I believe in evolution and only that. Thank you for the great compliments on calling me a sinner and dumb, JUST BECAUSE MY RELIGIOUS BELIEFS AREN'T THE SAME AS YOURS. You're just like all other Christians, trying to make people who don't believe in such a ridiculous figure seem real, and make us seem bad because we don't believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinHwa
http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/a.../evolution.jpg
LOL @ WOWUS.
Ok. Tell me this. Have you ever READ the bible?. First of all, If I don't need to know Evolution. It doesn't make a difference b.c. I know Christianity is the way and truth and the life. Ok. He said Love the Lord, your neighbor and yourself. Why need hate? You might have a temporary hate such as when you lose to someone and you might curse off and go mad. But why hate. He asked to love your enemies. How EASY is it to love the ones you already love? wowus, what are you? athetist. B.c. your points are weak. I feel pitty for you. I guess you are like Ilk. You want to perish in hell too?Quote:
Originally Posted by wowus
My name isn't ILK ffs, its IKE. Can you read? And if Wowus would like to perish in hell with me, i'm fine with that, I'll see you there.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinHwa
http://jpatokal.iki.fi/photo/travel/...aPit_Large.JPGQuote:
Originally Posted by ike
hey look. It's Wowus and Ike.
@Ike i don't care about your name.
Your name doesn't appear on the Book of Life. Owned.
Yes. Both of my parents are Fundamentalist Christians. We have VERY interesting discussions at the dinner table. And I am VERY well acquainted with the Bible. I even have a copy right beside me right now. New King James Version. I research the other side to make arguments that make sense. You, however, don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinHwa
Oh really. So you actually READ the whole bible. Ok Sure. Why do you seem to doubt it? The only answer that can be given is because you lack faith in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by wowus
You noticed how all the other religions make you do stuff. All of those things are just pointless. They are like the high priests in the bible. Just trying to look good from the people. Obiviously, that is pointless.
Have you ever noticed that evolution is a theory that cannot be proven at all. Is there any written documents that can be proven?
Fossils?
oh ok. Ill just break open my skull and put it deep in the ground.
I beleive there is no god QQ
I find it extremely had to beleive that this so called "man" died for everyone including the terroists and all that.
The bibble was probably just put toghether randomly and yet because back in those days everything and everyone was insecure they beleive this bible/god protected them.
The only reason human kind is surviving is cause of US not some man UP THERE or DOWN THERE
how do we even know he's up there? cause some book told us?.. right get me some proof THAT MAN is up there and maybe ill start beleiving
They also say turn to god for guidance. No thats not the fact from all the troubles i put up with my life and all the troubles i continualy face everyday, god is not helping me at all beause he is not here.
This "god" is dead and gone.
Ok. give me proof evolution is true. Don't give me some fossil from a ground.Quote:
Originally Posted by WARREN
Buddy it's called Faith. Learn about it. ok. how did Man get created?
How did man get knowledge?
How did 5-7 people say they say this and happened. What did these people who have no correspondence with each other say the same thing?
Concidence? No. Learn the truth. QQ.
Wouldn't you love to be in paradise. kThxBai.
Less than 10% of ALL Christians have read the entire Bible.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinHwa
We'll never truly know the evolution of man.
But what your saying is.. god created himself? i dont think so
Man didnt get knowledge through god
its like a cat, it gets smarter from its surroundings and its dangers
You cant underestimate power of the brain. Its created such faults as "faith"
Faith -Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinHwa
1. confidence or trust in a person or thing
2. belief that is not based on proof
3. belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion
4. belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc
Belief -
1. something believed; an opinion or conviction
2. confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof
Example of belief. "I believe that the Earth is flat."
Are you pope? o,OQuote:
Originally Posted by Forsaken
Ok. are you serious? God is God. the Creator. He was the beginning to all things. Nothing created him. Because He was the start. the Alpha.Quote:
Originally Posted by WARREN
Oh really? Man didn't get knowledge from God. Explain the story of King Solomen.
Ok. Who created the cat?
Ok. Who gave you the brain? Those faults you are talking about are the temptation of Satan. Not Faith. You lack knowledge of your own arguments. wowus is better than you in debating. Where did he go?
He left bc He has no more to say.
Lol wallace.
Faith is what repels us from what really frightens us
When we're scared..
When we're alone
When we need someone
We have faith in that "man"
Beleiving he'll guide us safely
Not really, thats my opinion though
God's done jack all for me.
How would you know they had no correspondence? Anyhoo, they DID. The apostles frequently communicated, as they practically stalked Jesus in a group.
Evolution already HAS been proven. Learn to google please. And yes, I HAVE read the bible cover-to-cover. It was a terrible book. Lacked any sort of plot.
ok Forsaken. There are 2 kinds of "christians"Quote:
Originally Posted by Forsaken
The fake ones who say I believe through family and force from friend. The ones who just go to church b.c. they just do it for no reason.
The real ones are the ones who actually believe.
I think that statistics comes from the America.
I would love to be that rich and powerful, but no I'm not.Quote:
Originally Posted by CsSniper aka Skilz
So you take the dictionary to the truth?Quote:
Originally Posted by Forsaken
A lot of the dictionary definitions out there are poorly defined. It's kinda sad how you use this "scholarly" book as reference. :]
I have no knowledge cause i have no beleif
God is not the creator of all, there are many organisms and viruses in this world that could create a very new very real person/creature
I was create by my mother and father
I dont know how the cat or the brain was created i honestly dont care and im not a rocket sceientist
The fact is the world is based on living organisms, fungy and virus's why do you think its still around today?
Im sure if god was real he wouldve eradicated the Fungy and Diseases and Viruses
Quite obviously he didnt
Quite obviously he is a myth
It's funny arguing with someone who's only idea about a credible source is the thing we're debating about.
We are debating the existence of a god, and yet the only things you deem "right" are things written in the Bible.
Just sayin'.
lmao there is more proof to no god then there is to god. And the fact that there are thousands of religions as well makes you wonder. People are ignorant when they believe in there religion because they are pretty much disagreeing with the other 5 billion people in the world.
Christianity is a worldwide religion, why would I use statistics only from America?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinHwa
So...You don't have to read or even look at the Bible, as long as you "believe" in God? How would one come to even understand the religion if they didn't read the book?
Oh man. Wait, in science history, i remmeber a lot of scientist theory was proven and then after couple years, it was proven wrong. Just bc our wonderful lazy *** scientist say its proven, doesn't mean we believe in it. Doesn't the government say stuff to the citizen which are sometimes lies?Quote:
Originally Posted by wowus
Oh man. I guess it's true.
Bible is not a novel with plot.
Ok. Go read the bible. All of the Authors did not even know the other people from the other author from other books. Get your facts straight -_-.
you probably think the bible is a terrible book b.c. you can't accept the fact that it's TRUE. owned. Kthxbai.
@Chris,
To get to heaven, all you need to do is, Believe the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Oh...k...Please be joking with me. You cannot honestly...Please redeem yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinHwa
more people have been killed in the name of religion than anything else in the world. You think the holocaust was bad? lmao take that number multiply it by 10 and you got maybe a small fraction of the people dead from religion. People were brutually tortured and stripped of all rights because "god wanted it to be." Stupid bullshit, peace is only through no religion.
Alright you can spend your life beleiving in false accusations and waste away beleiving you'll be praised or w/e at the pearly gates cause you are religious
people like me and wowus can go on knowing that not only is religion false, but we do not have to worry about our "religion" restraints
eg: we are free man
we dont have to watch our mouths we dont have to follow and rules that man set 1000 years ago.
Joking you. have ever gone through the whole dictionary?Quote:
Originally Posted by Forsaken
Lawl. Hey I'm not the one who did horrible in high school and needs to go to community college?
Even if you did well, you would have scholarship to go to college.
Please don't offend me by telling me to redeem myself.
If you think the dictionary is perfect, you GOT to be kidding me.
@Warren. LAWL YOU MAKE ME LAUGH.
FREE?
Aren't you following other man's laws?
Such as paying your taxes.
Not killing other people?
Those are law of Man that you are following. You are NOT free. PWNED. Kthxbai.
I'm eating burgers now, so this'll be my last post for awhile.
And are you saying that Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John didn't even know about each other? Nicely done.
Quoted for the truth lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by wowus
I laugh. Can you go on google and tell me the real authors. not the book names. kthxbai =]Quote:
Originally Posted by WARREN
No i cannot
I dont care for religion
so equally i will not waste my time on something false o.O
I told you what i beleive
That is we were created by organisms and fungy.
* The Gospel of Matthew, traditionally ascribed to the Apostle Matthew, son of Alphaeus according to Papias, (see the Gospel according to the Hebrews) Clement of Alexandria, Irenaeus and Eusebius.[1]
* The Gospel of Mark, traditionally ascribed to Mark the Evangelist, who wrote down the recollections of the Apostle Simon Peter according to Papias, Clement of Alexandria, Irenaeus, Eusebius.[2]
* The Gospel of Luke, traditionally ascribed to Luke, a physician and companion of the Apostle Paul according to Clement of Alexandria, Irenaeus, Eusebius, Canon Muratori.[3]
* The Gospel of John, traditionally ascribed to the Apostle John, son of Zebedee according to Papias, Clement of Alexandria, Irenaeus, Eusebius, Canon Muratori, Codex Vatic**** Alexandrinus.[4]
I stated that the dictionary was perfect? Well, no use in debating with you anymore. You are ignorant and blind, stumbling down a narrow path with your mind completely closed off.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinHwa
That was an insult in case you were wondering. Feel free to report me.
This Topic is getting out of hand. I am locking to prevent further Arguing.