K v2. [Custom Map0z]

My Progress as a Map Dev.
Gets Better Going Down

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FMihW8pdzQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cd6u5Freic
[There is no NG GunZ Dont QQ thanks.]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQLipyfi3Yo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fairI38pI6U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd2RUP4HSNk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv_MBuWfUxg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn7-FbP-J0E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxM8Gr2ubII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR_Eihp7GB8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnVPQD3_oVo

Fgunz doesn't really need more maps.
People don't use like.. any of the maps that are player made.
Cept asylum and sewer. >:P

I didn't say they were for FGunz... this is a show off section right? I'm showing off.

My e-penis grows on this shit.

rly nice job mike :3

I only watched your first video and there is a lot to pin point.
Such as;
- Scale everything like it would be scale MAIET style (e.g. the hedge is too thick and low)
- Find good textures that will fit
- Check for bugs (seen like 2-3 already in your video)
- Find a nice light amount

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Originally Posted by StephanM

I only watched your first video and there is a lot to pin point.
Such as;
- Scale everything like it would be scale MAIET style (e.g. the hedge is too thick and low)
- Find good textures that will fit
- Check for bugs (seen like 2-3 already in your video)
- Find a nice light amount

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The first video is the second map I ever made.
I posted that it's my progression as I go down.

Compares the first video to the last video thanks.

I like the stripclub idea, but it's not spectaculair. You should work more on your bugged walls, unclear Textures and new Designs. All of the maps have been created already and lookalike if you understand what I mean.

7/10 overall.

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Originally Posted by Bouke

I like the stripclub idea, but it's not spectaculair. You should work more on your bugged walls, unclear Textures and new Designs. All of the maps have been created already and lookalike if you understand what I mean.

7/10 overall.

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No, I dont.

Too bad for you then.

Still if I look at your last map.
Texture combination is kinda weird, its too dark and empty rooms / rooms with object are like weird / can make you glitch (those 8 squares).

Not yours their are Justice for All and Thejj's ._.

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Originally Posted by King Louie

Not yours their are Justice for All and Thejj's ._.

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And also AAA Mods's

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Originally Posted by King Louie

Not yours their are Justice for All and Thejj's ._.

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looool, I'll post the blender screens. Also, check justice for all's account on RZ he has even commented on my maps that I've posted.

Names I've posted under
Killer]
Killer1478
1Mike1
Mike

Also, RoF I worked with AAA on, thats why his name is on it, but in the spawn area my name is there in huge letters, and I incorporated my stripclub.

I'll post back later with the GTK screen shots

Well, not a good job mike.

Your maps aren't really making sense, and are quite bad builded.

You can see wall floating because they're simply not good attatched, textures are repetitive and aren't making sense, you got no style in any of your maps, your maps are asset-less and its not gunz game play based a all.

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Originally Posted by slugheady

Well, not a good job mike.

Your maps aren't really making sense, and are quite bad builded.

You can see wall floating because they're simply not good attatched, textures are repetitive and aren't making sense, you got no style in any of your maps, your maps are asset-less and its not gunz game play based a all.

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Welcome to GunZ map making, we arn't allowed to use the same tools maiet did, so we use GTK and Xml, and if you knew anything about GTK you'd understand its a bitch to use. Also, the only floating wall was in my first map, after that they have been closed off perfectly so your criticism means nothing to me.

Also, besides all the maps that clearly say "By Mike" the only one that doesnt have that tag is pillars which; here is a gtk screenshot. Also, here is RoF.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/37745197/yolo.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/37745197/yolo2.png

Now is there anything else I could offer you fine ******s?

"allowed"?
Wrong word you are using there.
Ps, i did the login map of v7 with maiets tools.
http://puu.sh/lMqm
Dont mind the wrong textures for the carpet and flags, i edited them afterwards.

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Originally Posted by HellSniper

"allowed"?
Wrong word you are using there.
Ps, i did the login map of v7 with maiets tools.
http://puu.sh/lMqm
Dont mind the wrong textures for the carpet and flags, i edited them afterwards.

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3ds isn't maiets tools. You used their scripts to export though.

Not bad :|

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Originally Posted by AAA Mods

Not bad :|

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:) Your so positive

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Originally Posted by 1Mike1

3ds isn't maiets tools. You used their scripts to export though.

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Maiets tools dont define that it has to be made by them.
Anyways, forgot to add the worldedit screenshot.
But yeah, you dont have the dokumentation you need for using the stuff correctly.
Me and wucas will release dokumentations for the elu and map script.
Thats offtopic though.

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Originally Posted by 1Mike1

Welcome to GunZ map making, we arn't allowed to use the same tools maiet did, so we use GTK and Xml, and if you knew anything about GTK you'd understand its a bitch to use. Also, the only floating wall was in my first map, after that they have been closed off perfectly so your criticism means nothing to me.

Also, besides all the maps that clearly say "By Mike" the only one that doesnt have that tag is pillars which; here is a gtk screenshot. Also, here is RoF.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/37745197/yolo.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/37745197/yolo2.png

Now is there anything else I could offer you fine ******s?

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slugheady was on point really. he doesn't bring it in a nice way but he was pretty much on point.
badly build might just be that one floating wall, or multiple things idk. perhaps very basic is what he means.
textures are indeed repetitive and generic or whatever he said.
asset-less i have no clue what that means, I would like to believe they are details but I don't know/care.
style, is about the generic textures. they don't seem to fit properly and are overused.

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Originally Posted by Kronix

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GFX Section - Custom Maps.

well i don't know very well how making a map works like LOL im not an exeprt at making these things lol but i watched the videos and some maps dont really look bad ;) i like a lot subway ^-^

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Originally Posted by Tomboii

slugheady was on point really. he doesn't bring it in a nice way but he was pretty much on point.
badly build might just be that one floating wall, or multiple things idk. perhaps very basic is what he means.
textures are indeed repetitive and generic or whatever he said.
asset-less i have no clue what that means, I would like to believe they are details but I don't know/care.
style, is about the generic textures. they don't seem to fit properly and are overused.

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Well, as I've stated this is my progression, my second map is obviously gonna be shit, but it gets better going down. Lightmapping, details, this is GunZ not Crysis, you cant animate the soda machines or whatever, you have to be careful with GTK, if you put too much detail you cant lightmap, then everyone crashes.

It's a restriction factor, not a bad development factor.

@Keite, lets make babies.

Why dont you try to make something unique?
Gunz lacks nature-ish maps.
There are a dozen skillmaps, which i still think are pointless, a million indoor maps.
And a couple rather ugly outdoor maps.
Even with the limited functions of radiant i made Snow_Wasteland and Scoutzknives, i consider them my best work with radiant.
You have to work on your texture placement and scaling.
Make some projects and keep them to you, aslong as you only test stuff, test maps dont need to be released.

I want to play in the stripclub map

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Originally Posted by 1Mike1

Welcome to GunZ map making, we arn't allowed to use the same tools maiet did, so we use GTK and Xml, and if you knew anything about GTK you'd understand its a bitch to use. Also, the only floating wall was in my first map, after that they have been closed off perfectly so your criticism means nothing to me.

Also, besides all the maps that clearly say "By Mike" the only one that doesnt have that tag is pillars which; here is a gtk screenshot. Also, here is RoF.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/37745197/yolo.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/37745197/yolo2.png

Now is there anything else I could offer you fine ******s?

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Sorry son, I do.

I study game design and I've used plenty of game engines, and GTK Isn't that hard to use its just you. You chose to accept that what you made, which obviously doesn't looks good, doesn't matter if its your first or last thats just BAD.

Before you start and ego me, start accepting criticism or just **** off you brad, your maps look trash and the way you show them is even more horrible, you just put some random things and put some ugly textures on them without even thinking of what your doing.

And really son, really, blaming a tool is the worst thing you could do.

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Originally Posted by HellSniper

"allowed"?
Wrong word you are using there.
Ps, i did the login map of v7 with maiets tools.
http://puu.sh/lMqm
Dont mind the wrong textures for the carpet and flags, i edited them afterwards.

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Wauw didn't even knew you could use 3DS max to do stuff like that =O I'm jealous of you :( <3

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Originally Posted by HellSniper

Why dont you try to make something unique?
Gunz lacks nature-ish maps.
There are a dozen skillmaps, which i still think are pointless, a million indoor maps.
And a couple rather ugly outdoor maps.
Even with the limited functions of radiant i made Snow_Wasteland and Scoutzknives, i consider them my best work with radiant.
You have to work on your texture placement and scaling.
Make some projects and keep them to you, aslong as you only test stuff, test maps dont need to be released.

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Probably, most outdoor maps suck cause when you try to add detail you will hit the upper brush limit, and you cant leave them as plain as you want cause then they look bland, on the inside and good on the "outside" but I got a troll to reply to so yeah. Mostly though, I might look for textures again, I stopped mapping but I may make a few character selects with animations again. I wanna edit them in blender so their location can be changed, and maybe go into 3ds and change the animation speed so its not all at the same time.

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Originally Posted by slugheady

Sorry son, I do.

I study game design and I've used plenty of game engines, and GTK Isn't that hard to use its just you. You chose to accept that what you made, which obviously doesn't looks good, doesn't matter if its your first or last thats just BAD.

Before you start and ego me, start accepting criticism or just **** off you brad, your maps look trash and the way you show them is even more horrible, you just put some random things and put some ugly textures on them without even thinking of what your doing.

And really son, really, blaming a tool is the worst thing you could do.



Wauw didn't even knew you could use 3DS max to do stuff like that =O I'm jealous of you :( <3

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So, you just proved you are the biggest ass kisser on FGunZ, I don't have to accept anything from a brain dead redneck who cant read. Look you moronic ****, I never said GTK is hard to use, I said it has a brush "limit". A brush is a geometric shape, and with GTK + FSRad + Legion's Export scripts, the limit is around 800 if you want to lightmap. Also, along with Legion's exporter its not perfect with collisions.

So, you are a ******* moron, and your mouth is more reminiscent of an asshole because you are completely useless. Since you want to nitpick though, lemme tear apart more of your arguments

GTK is NOT a game engine. It is a 3rd party tool that was generally used for Quake games. You also have obviously never tried creating a map for GunZ because anyone else who has would understand, AKA AAA_Mods.

Continuing on; your second paragraph is just you being butthurt because I don't give two ****s about your useless opinion. Lastly, you're third paragraph (sentence) just proves you have never tried more than making a cube in GTK.

So once again, **** you, hold my ****, eat my shit, and get off my thread. I hope you die, and have a terrible day.

-Mike

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Originally Posted by 1Mike1

Probably, most outdoor maps suck cause when you try to add detail you will hit the upper brush limit, and you cant leave them as plain as you want cause then they look bland, on the inside and good on the "outside" but I got a troll to reply to so yeah. Mostly though, I might look for textures again, I stopped mapping but I may make a few character selects with animations again. I wanna edit them in blender so their location can be changed, and maybe go into 3ds and change the animation speed so its not all at the same time.



So, you just proved you are the biggest ass kisser on FGunZ, I don't have to accept anything from a brain dead redneck who cant read. Look you moronic ****, I never said GTK is hard to use, I said it has a brush "limit". A brush is a geometric shape, and with GTK + FSRad + Legion's Export scripts, the limit is around 800 if you want to lightmap. Also, along with Legion's exporter its not perfect with collisions.

So, you are a ******* moron, and your mouth is more reminiscent of an asshole because you are completely useless. Since you want to nitpick though, lemme tear apart more of your arguments

GTK is NOT a game engine. It is a 3rd party tool that was generally used for Quake games. You also have obviously never tried creating a map for GunZ because anyone else who has would understand, AKA AAA_Mods.

Continuing on; your second paragraph is just you being butthurt because I don't give two ****s about your useless opinion. Lastly, you're third paragraph (sentence) just proves you have never tried more than making a cube in GTK.

So once again, **** you, hold my ****, eat my shit, and get off my thread. I hope you die, and have a terrible day.

-Mike

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you could also go for a fake lightmap approach. you basicly add the lightmap files from a maiet map and edit configs & recompile. this way your maps will be playable with lightmap on & off. there won't be any visible difference between on & off tho. check out my map FTemple (its in fgunz) to see what I mean.

some maps should be uploaded in game

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Originally Posted by Tomboii

you could also go for a fake lightmap approach. you basicly add the lightmap files from a maiet map and edit configs & recompile. this way your maps will be playable with lightmap on & off. there won't be any visible difference between on & off tho. check out my map FTemple (its in fgunz) to see what I mean.

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I know that, I created that for RoF it even says ontop of the RoF video that there is no lightmap but it wont crash you or it should atleast. I may be remembering from DG.

Here's a tip for you and your map skills.

If you want these to be POSSIBLY used in v7, it would probably be better to make changes or mods to more commonly used maps.

Maps such as :

Town
Garden
Prison ll
Battle Arena
Castle
Dungeon
Port
Weapon Shop
etc.

Basically all the maps used in ijji.

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Originally Posted by iSoMetric

Here's a tip for you and your map skills.

If you want these to be POSSIBLY used in v7, it would probably be better to make changes or mods to more commonly used maps.

Maps such as :

Town
Garden
Prison ll
Battle Arena
Castle
Dungeon
Port
Weapon Shop
etc.

Basically all the maps used in ijji.

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I dont.

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Originally Posted by 1Mike1

Probably, most outdoor maps suck cause when you try to add detail you will hit the upper brush limit, and you cant leave them as plain as you want cause then they look bland, on the inside and good on the "outside" but I got a troll to reply to so yeah. Mostly though, I might look for textures again, I stopped mapping but I may make a few character selects with animations again. I wanna edit them in blender so their location can be changed, and maybe go into 3ds and change the animation speed so its not all at the same time.



So, you just proved you are the biggest ass kisser on FGunZ, I don't have to accept anything from a brain dead redneck who cant read. Look you moronic ****, I never said GTK is hard to use, I said it has a brush "limit". A brush is a geometric shape, and with GTK + FSRad + Legion's Export scripts, the limit is around 800 if you want to lightmap. Also, along with Legion's exporter its not perfect with collisions.

So, you are a ******* moron, and your mouth is more reminiscent of an asshole because you are completely useless. Since you want to nitpick though, lemme tear apart more of your arguments

GTK is NOT a game engine. It is a 3rd party tool that was generally used for Quake games. You also have obviously never tried creating a map for GunZ because anyone else who has would understand, AKA AAA_Mods.

Continuing on; your second paragraph is just you being butthurt because I don't give two ****s about your useless opinion. Lastly, you're third paragraph (sentence) just proves you have never tried more than making a cube in GTK.

So once again, **** you, hold my ****, eat my shit, and get off my thread. I hope you die, and have a terrible day.

-Mike

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lmao, you didn't get a single point of what I said did you? its a fact your levels look bad and you can't develop for shit, we can all see that and your not willing to accept any criticism and start to manipulate stuff. pointing out that you can't blame GTK nor any game engine / tool doesn't directly refer to what your using its more of a global way of explaining?

Let me put this very clear so your clueless mind might understand it:

YOU
SUCK
AT
DEVELOPING
LEVELS

Reason:

NO STYLE
NO THOUGHT OF GAMEPLAY

Read the caps part good it might help!

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Originally Posted by slugheady

lmao, you didn't get a single point of what I said did you? its a fact your levels look bad and you can't develop for shit, we can all see that and your not willing to accept any criticism and start to manipulate stuff. pointing out that you can't blame GTK nor any game engine / tool doesn't directly refer to what your using its more of a global way of explaining?

Let me put this very clear so your clueless mind might understand it:

YOU
SUCK
AT
DEVELOPING
LEVELS

Reason:

NO STYLE
NO THOUGHT OF GAMEPLAY

Read the caps part good it might help!

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Touch my wiener. Your lack of intelligence is so low that I refuse to read the bytes that you send me. Id rather **** hagrid.

Look at these guys posting paragraphs O:<!