Player fairness.

This thread is just to talk about whats not fair in the events.
In Zack's events, not everyone is allowed to sit out on his team, only the people he likes can sit out. If you are on Zack's team sitting out, he'll kick you.
In Bashy's events, during let's say... Race. He allows anyone who wants to, to go on his team since they don't wanna race but they still wanna be in the event.
What Zack is doing isn't fair. What Bashy's doing is.
This isn't a report on Zack or anything. But I just want player fairness between events. Sometimes Zack doesn't want anyone on his team, and that's fine. But if he let's 1 person sit out, he should let more, not just one.
Bashy let's anyone sit out with his permission. That's what he should do. No player should have higher rights then others. Everyone should be equal.
PS: I didn't choose Bashy over any other gm because he does that, I just chose him because I mostly play in both of there events the most.

Zack always allows me to stay in his team so is Bashy. Probably because Zack is still immature makes him do things like that.

Its the Gm's Decision if he wants to let however many people on his team. Its his event, so he can set the guidelines however he likes.
I understand how you think thats not very fair.Now for bashy thats his call, but its honestly Zack's decision on how things run in the event. Since he takes time into hosting them.

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Originally Posted by Serpento

Its the Gm's Decision if he wants to let however many people on his team. Its his event, so he can set the guidelines however he likes.
I understand how you think thats not very fair.Now for bashy thats his call, but its honestly Zack's decision on how things run in the event. Since he takes time into hosting them.

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I understand how GMS take time to make events for us players, but that's what being a GM is, dealing with reports, hosting events and answering questions.
Its still not fair how he let's whoever he wants to on his team. If he makes an event like that, he should allow everyone who wants to, sit out.

I will have to agree with you on that one.
Example: You bought sweets for your classmates, but there are two boys that you don't like as much as the other kids in class. So you deal out sweets to everyone in the class, except the two boys.
That example is just as unfair, in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Mime

I understand how GMS take time to make events for us players, but that's what being a GM is, dealing with reports, hosting events and answering questions.
Its still not fair how he let's whoever he wants to on his team. If he makes an event like that, he should allow everyone who wants to, sit out.

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I guess this is the time to code that spectators mode. But we've had a discussion on that. And even while disabling the chat functions. Any other program like for example "Teamspeak" would work just as well.

You could try asking him again i guess. but its really his call.

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Originally Posted by Meatball

I'll have to agree with you on that one.
Example: You bought sweets for your classmates, but there are two boys that you don't like as much as the other kids in class. So you deal out sweets to everyone in the class, except the two boys.
That example is just as unfair, in my opinion.

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Exactly. But in this case, its not about hate/like its mostly about fair/rights.

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Originally Posted by Serpento

I guess this is the time to code that spectators mode. But we've had a discussion on that. And even while disabling the chat functions. Any other program like for example "Teamspeak" would work just as well.

You could try asking him again i guess. but its really his call.

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If he doesn't allow everyone he shouldn't do it.

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Originally Posted by Mime

Exactly. But in this case, its not about hate/like its mostly about fair/rights.

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Sweets are serious business, man.

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Originally Posted by Meatball

Sweets are serious business man.

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Lmfaoo. I guess I should never joke about candy with you. :@

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Originally Posted by Mime

Lmfaoo. I guess I should never joke about candy with you. :@

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If you do I will have to kill you.. twice!

Honestly, letting people sit out during the event (while still inside the room) is a waste. They're just taking up space, somebody else might be waiting out in the lobby trying to get in to actually try and win some event points.

If you dont wanna participate in the event, dont join it. Let others have a chance.

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Originally Posted by Alex

Honestly, letting people sit out during the event (while still inside the room) is a waste. They're just taking up space, somebody else might be waiting out in the lobby trying to get in to actually try and win some event points.

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So sitting out shouldn't be allowed. Point final.

Allow me to have a debate in this childish argument.

I only let people whom to which ask me first so sit out. Also, I choose my helppers. Brightness was the first to ask me. Any GM can choose who to so called "sit out" on his team. It's not anyone else's decision. You making this as a debate about fairness without seeing both sides of the story will just make the other side look bad. Just because Bashy does it, doesn't mean I have to do it. I have my own system in which I choose to have on my side is my own system, First person to ask.

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Originally Posted by Zack

Allow me to have a debate in this childish argument.

I only let people whom to which ask me first so sit out. Also, I choose my helppers. Brightness was the first to ask me. Any GM can choose who to so called "sit out" on his team. It's not anyone else's decision. You making this as a debate about fairness without seeing both sides of the story will just make the other side look bad. Just because Bashy does it, doesn't mean I have to do it. I have my own system in which I choose to have on my side is my own system, First person to ask.

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How are we suppose to tell you before time? Are we psychic? I don't even see the argument in here anyway. You mostly choose the people you like and your clan to help you with events. You don't even need a "helper" an event is suppose to be hosted by a gm.

To be honest, I see both points of this argument. I have to agree with Alex (sometimes.) If Someone else were to want to join, kick the people sitting to allow the outsider to join. Otherwise, I have to say it depends on the GM. His choice of judgement. Sorry Mime. I see what you are saying though.

Brightness asked me right before the event started. I called "event" and she said "May I watch?". Putrid is one of my most helpful helpers. I chose him because he can actually aim.

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Originally Posted by Zack

Brightness asked me right before the event started. I called "event" and she said "May I watch?". Putrid is one of my most helpful helpers. I chose him because he can actually aim.

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That doesn't even matter. You dodged my other answer. An event is suppose to be hosted by a gm, its more fun and enjoyable that way.
+Brightness even said you're cheap so no idea why you're bringing her into this.

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Originally Posted by Adam

To be honest, I see both points of this argument. I have to agree with Alex (sometimes.) If Someone else were to want to join, kick the people sitting to allow the outsider to join. Otherwise, I have to say it depends on the GM. His choice of judgement. Sorry Mime. I see what you are saying though.

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What are you apologizing for? I completely agree with Alex.

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Originally Posted by Mime

That's off topic. Same time that isn't fair. So sitting out shouldn't be allowed. Point final.

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How is it off topic? the thread is about sitting out during events. I'm pretty sure my post was about the same thing.

I can chose a helper if I want to. You can ask me right before I start my event.

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Originally Posted by Alex

How is it off topic? the thread is about sitting out during events. I'm pretty sure my post was about the same thing.

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Sorry about that, no idea why I wrote it.

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Originally Posted by Zack

I can chose a helper if I want to. You can ask me right before I start my event.

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Nty, I don't even wanna help, its more fun when a GM hosts it.

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Originally Posted by Mime

That doesn't even matter. You dodged my other answer. An event is suppose to be hosted by a gm, its more fun and enjoyable that way.
+Brightness even said you're cheap so no idea why you're bringing her into this.


What are you apologizing for? I completely agree with Alex.

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I'm apologizing because I understand Alex's point, but ultimately I agree with Zack.

Yet, you join my events. If you don't want my helpers to help me kill then don't join. It's a public Event and therefore, you have the right to refuse anything I throw out.

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Originally Posted by Adam

I'm apologizing because I understand Alex's point, but ultimately I agree with Zack.

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Idc which side you pick lol, I'm just here to get things straight.

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Originally Posted by Mime

Idc which side you pick lol, I'm just here to get things straight.

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I know bro, I know

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Originally Posted by Zack

Yet, you join my events. If you don't want my helpers to help me kill then don't join. It's a public Event and therefore, you have the right to refuse anything I throw out.

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I'm pretty sure 999dmg is enough for you to kill people, you don't need any help.
+How are they helping you if you're taking turns?
I don't join YOUR events in particularly. I join every event, and by far, you host the most unfair ones.

Actually, people kill him that's why I have to join in and kill the rest. Sometimes I'm too lazy to even touch you guys.
Also, ever since you've been here, no offence or anything but you have been complaining about most things.

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Originally Posted by Zack

Actually, people kill him that's why I have to join in and kill the rest. Sometimes I'm too lazy to even touch you guys.
Also, ever since you've been here, no offence or anything but you have been complaining about most things.

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If you're too lazy to host events don't do it. You applied for GM so do your job. Don't get a player to do your job for you.
+I've been here longer then you, you just don't know it yet.
I've only complained about your events and the rest of complaining is in pub matches., don't tell me you've never complained, don't try to bring my faults into this.

You telling me not to do an event when people ask me to. If I'm too lazy then I can get someone to help me host.
I take my time to do an event but also, have people complain. If you don't want to go to my events, don't enter it. If it's unfair, don't enter it.
If you have a problem with my event, don't come to my events. Go to someone else's. I complain about the little stuff.

https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...?39693-Sup-Sup

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Originally Posted by Zack

You telling me not to do an event when people ask me to. If I'm too lazy then I can get someone to help me host.
I take my time to do an event but also, have people complain. If you don't want to go to my events, don't enter it. If it's unfair, don't enter it.
If you have a problem with my event, don't come to my events. Go to someone else's. I complain about the little stuff.

https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...?39693-Sup-Sup

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The server is suppose to have daily event, I don't care who hosts it, I'm in it to have fun.
Its funny how most people complain about your events, don't you think you're doing something wrong?
Instead of doing what you want to do. Let the players decide.
+I can't go to someones else's since another GM won't host another event at the same time.
You posted my intro thread good job.
Its called "New account"

They can say what ever they want, but there will be consequences. Like I said, if you don't want to join, don't join.
There are more than one way to have fun in a Gunz game. An event is to stir up the community.

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Originally Posted by Zack

They can say what ever they want, but there will be consequences. Like I said, if you don't want to join, don't join.
There are more than one way to have fun in a Gunz game. An event is to stir up the community.

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Ok well for me events are suppose to be the most fun. If I say your event is boring I won't have any consequences so idk where you pulled that one out of.
All I'm saying is listen to the people actually playing the event and listen do what they wanna do.

You're saying that the players are in control of me? I'm not even in control of them.
I help the community by making the event.

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Originally Posted by Zack

You're saying that the players are in control of me? I'm not even in control of them.
I help the community by making the event.

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Show me where I said the players are in control of you. I just said, take some opinions from them.
"you help the community by making the event"
Well help it some more by actually making the players have fun.

Ok, this way...

Man goes into a bar....
The manager doesn't like him.
The manager asks a bouncer to get rid of him.
Man gets thrown out of bar....


Mime goes onto Zack's team because he saw other people on it.
Zack disapproves.
Zack uses the command /dc mime.
Mime is gone.
Mime goes on forums.
Than mime cries.
Than Zack laughs.


It also isn't a GM's job to do events.

Grammer^

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Originally Posted by Ariston

Ok, this way...

Man goes into a bar....
The manager doesn't like him.
The manager asks a bouncer to get rid of him.
Man gets thrown out of bar....


Mime goes onto Zack's team because he saw other people on it.
Zack disapproves.
Zack uses the command /dc mime.
Mime is gone.
Mime goes on forums.
Than mime cries.
Than Zack laughs.


It also isn't a GM's job to do events.

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Awkward moment when I didn't even join his team...
Its not his job in a way, but in another way if they didn't do events we wouldn't have events and more people would leave.

Its like you telling me how to run my business.

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Originally Posted by Zack

Its like you telling me how to run my business.

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No sorry, its not like that at all.
I just made this thread to prove a point. And its been proven. You're unfair. End of discussion.

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Originally Posted by Mime

Awkward moment when I didn't even join his team...
Its not his job in a way, but in another way if they didn't do events we wouldn't have events and more people would leave.

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More people are leaving because of the community. Staff hasn't done anything about it in the past 2 or 1.

Your opinion 8D

He said it, it's the end of the discussion.

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Originally Posted by Ariston

More people are leaving because of the community. Staff hasn't done anything about it in the past 2 or 1.

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I'm sure some people left cause of staff.
Anyway I'm done talking about it.
PS: Not saying our staff is bad. It would happen on any other game/server

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Originally Posted by Alex

Honestly, letting people sit out during the event (while still inside the room) is a waste. They're just taking up space, somebody else might be waiting out in the lobby trying to get in to actually try and win some event points.

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I agree completely they are just a waste of space.

first world problems
GMs don't necessarily have to host shit for the playerbase, they just need to take care of problems like exploits/third party advantages over other players 8D and event's are not on the top of that list so wat do wat doooooooooooooooooo

thread tl;dr if event's don't go your way, you can always rant on forums ok

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Originally Posted by Mime

I'm sure some people left cause of staff.
Anyway I'm done talking about it.
PS: Not saying our staff is bad. It would happen on any other game/server

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Than why bother making a thread if you don't want to talk about it?
Name one staff member people left because of.
Excluding Bashy he just doesn't know how to handle uc reports.

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Originally Posted by Mime

No sorry, its not like that at all.
I just made this thread to prove a point. And its been proven. You're unfair. End of discussion.

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A bunch of shit in the world is unfair. Yet you rant about a computer game not going your way.

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Originally Posted by Ariston

Than why bother making a thread if you don't want to talk about it?
Name one staff member people left because of.
Excluding Bashy he just doesn't know how to handle uc reports.

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English...?

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Originally Posted by Mime

English...?

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Is that all you can say?

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Originally Posted by Mime

English...?

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Suck it up or don't participate in events at all l0l

and zack is st00pid anyway so 8D

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Originally Posted by ftwxxx

Suck it up or don't participate in events at all l0l

and zack is st00pid anyway so 8D

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I stopped talking about it you're continuing.

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Originally Posted by Mime

I stopped talking about it you're continuing.

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Yet you continue to reply.
Are you Brazilian?

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Originally Posted by Ariston

Yet you continue to reply.
Are you Brazilian?

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you continue aswell. and you arent helping **** on this thread so leave him alone.
Zack can talk for hisself, so can mime.

http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2...snt-enough.gif

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Originally Posted by SuperKekku

you continue aswell. and you arent helping **** on this thread so leave him alone.
Zack can talk for hisself, so can mime.

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First Amendment.

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Originally Posted by Ariston

First Amendment.

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Freedom of Speech.

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Originally Posted by Adam

Freedom of Speech.

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Winner.

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Originally Posted by Ariston

Winner.

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Yay! Do I get a pink pony?

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Originally Posted by Adam

Yay! Do I get a pink pony?

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You don't get shit. :)

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Originally Posted by Ariston

You don't get shit. :)

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I like getting shit though.... especially brown shit.

This is dumb. It's a Game Master's decision. If he lets friend on their team, whatever. It's his goddamn event, not the players. Respect his decision or don't, don't complain dude. He's GIVING you the chance to get neat items, if you don't want to be involved, and he doesn't want you on his team, quitcher bitchin, accept it, and move on.