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i vote yes cus i dun want my school to get shot up
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Yes or no.
i vote yes cus i dun want my school to get shot up
I live in the netherlands lalalalala
They should've never allowed guns in the first place.
So honestly I don't care since it's too late now.
But if you read the news, there will be a change in Gun laws. More stricter background checks, limiting the magazine of guns, banned on submachine guns. etc... At this rate, it'll be safer than before.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperWaffle
What about those who already have a gun?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tizona
Fine them?
Even if they ban guns what about the ones who have them AND theres always knifes and sht. U never know maybe someone will come in a school with a sword and chop ppl's heads off?
Can't really do anything about that. Gun laws will still reduce the chances of shootings compared to no gun laws. Illegal or legal, ppl will always have em. Just like the people did with marijuana. So we just gotta hope for the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperWaffle
Knifes aren't as much of a threat compared to guns plus you can't ban knives. They're used for so many purposes, but guns are pretty much used to kill.Quote:
Originally Posted by KingKareem
Guns should be banned in USA....
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December 14, 2012
RIP to those little kids that lost there lives that day in the elementary school! :( <3
Weed legal in the netherlands lalalalal
guns are always so demonized....
noone talk about the situations when a gun saves a group of people but everyone jumps on anything negative
not saying we shouldnt talk about the bad things but talk about the benefits aswell
Guns were made to kill, ppl just thought of beneficial ways of using em.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadameDeath
I'd rather take my chances of not having submachine guns at my school then using a gun to protect myself.
how can you compare guns to marijuana..Quote:
Originally Posted by Tizona
you act like the only place guns are used are schools ..... and if smgs are banned then if someoen wants to commit a crime, theyll get oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Tizona
when you outlaw guns only outlaws have guns
Most people say the same thing. "We have a right to have a gun it's in our Constitution"
While I would completely agree having a right doesn't mean something shouldn't be done.
Granted gun laws won't really make a difference due to many reasons, something should.
Upping security, whatever, either way more 'strict' laws will do nothing if not make it worse.
Myself personally I'd never carry a gun. I think it's cowardice to conceal or carry a weapon.
If it's your time to go or experience some shit, it's your time and you need to do so like a man.
In the words of Shakespeare; "We all owe God a death. I won't do anything underhanded."
I can't agree more, Guns were made to kill and that's exactly what they're used for everywhere.
What the f ;-;Quote:
Originally Posted by Existence
thats exactly what a right means, nothing should be done to infringe upon it.
i compared it as to how even if somethings illegal, there will always that something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hype
so if guns would get banned, it will still be around.
It's obvious not every right is very sound now isn't it? This is a prime example. It's too easy to get guns, and being able to own them as a right just makes it that much easier to obtain them and use them for the exact opposite purpose of what you are 'supposed' to be using them for.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadameDeath
yeah but not the same amount as there is right now...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tizona
you know that guy who went to school and killed a lot of kids.. he got his weapons way too easy...
everyone just disregards all the times guns saved lives. Guns have saved much more lives than they have ended.Quote:
Originally Posted by Existence
I beg to differ. Guns kill tens of thousands of people every year. How many people do they save? A group of people here and there, 100, maybe 1,000 lives at most saved a year by Guns? No. Guns do not save lives that is the most asinine assumption somebody could make.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadameDeath
And that just iterates my point that if Guns were not used to kill in the first place (what they were created for) they would not need to be used for protection against them. The logic behind needing a gun to protect from another gun is as assbackwards and nonsensical as it gets.
i really hope your joking because im sure millions of lives were saved through wars, sure we lost some we saved so many more. Your pulling numbers out of your ass, link me to where your getting statistics like "10,000 people die to guns in a year and only 100' are saved".Quote:
Originally Posted by Existence
Also you dont need to shoot someone with a gun to save yourself, the sight of a gun gets most people to back off.
Lets look at it this way.
If you give a child a toy to play with and the child likes it for a while, he grows attached to it.
Now mommy and daddy thinks its a bad influence on the kid for whatever reason and the mommy puts it high on a shelf.
Do you think the child is more prompt to leave it there? Or try and take it?
You see guys. If they try and take away our guns by putting up more "laws" theres going to be more people to try and break those "laws".
There will be more criminal rates, shootings, and chaos. Lets just see them try and take my gun away. They aint getting my gun thats for sure!
"i need a gun to protect myself from other people with guns"
USA logic.
And no, getting a gun isnt like getting marijuana, get real, its hard to get a gun in canada, but i can get weed from my next door neighbor.
Therefore, getting rid of guns in the US will actually make a difference, you make it sound as if getting something illegal such as a gun is an easy task lmfao.
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Originally Posted by Existence
Its only because the wrong people get a hold of these guns. If we could just somehow have it to where it would be harder to obtain a gun.
Watch the news? They spurt out statistics about guns; you can also check the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadameDeath
The thing with guns is that not everyone should be allowed to own them. Americans will argue saying oh it's in our constitution, and we have the right to bear arms. I don't know much about politics or how things work in the United States, but it's really ****ed up when mentally ill people are able to own guns. I'm not saying guns should be banned, because I don't think they should be. What I think should happen is that, one must be declared mentally stable, not have a criminal record, take an exam of sorts, background check, etc...
I don't know much about guns, but civilians shouldn't need to own things like AK-47's or guns with extended magazines. >.>
Even if they put a stricter gun law, there will be outlaws who will break the gun law XD
I believe that they gotta re-register with the local authorities. (Not really sure.)Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperWaffle
Gun laws are stupid. Period. Dave, you're kind of right. Yea, maybe they shouldn't have ever been allowed, but I for one enjoy having guns. Guns aren't the reason schools get shot up, guns aren't the reason people sell drugs or get into gang wars, guns don't cause any of that shit, stupid people do.
There won't be any placement of stricter/harder rules on gun control, because the government can't win that fight. They can try, but they'll lose. My father and I own at least 25 guns. My dad airbrushes duracoat (a type of gun paint) for people as a hobby.
I agree, mentally ill and unstable people should not be allowed to purchase weapons of any kind. You can't buy a gun with a criminal record, unless the gun store is lazy and decides to not background check people. it's about a 50/50 on weather or not gun stores will background check you. If you don't look or act shady then they probably won't. You should have to pass a common sense test or something before you can buy a gun. And hey, I've got two AK's, and plenty of high powered rifles. They're fun to shoot :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Xypher
u sir are a threat to the safety of this fgunz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micah
Guns are part of life, even killing too, although it' s not fair for the people that kill us or anyone else without/with reasons. And also Laws that allow/ban people to have a gun. I don' t really care about guns anyways. We were born to die.
the only shooting of guns should be on gun games
now we all understand that it's mentally ill people that go cause shootings, but at the same time, by keeping guns in the country, ur essentially giving them access to weapons to go cause these shootings.
Therefore, in a way... if you want to keep guns in the country, you're the reason shootings happen.
No guns = no gun violence
PS, dont bring that garbage that they'll be able to find a gun if they want, it's not that simple.
Why can you not see that guns are dangerous >.> If people didn't have as much access to guns there would probably be no mass murders happening >.> Yeah it's the people who use the guns that are *coco* in the head, but it all leads back to guns...Quote:
Originally Posted by Micah
Also GUNS DO KILL PEOPLE >.>
no, i kill people...on fgunz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xypher
Just let the FBI search all houses for guns and take it.
That's a great idea....Quote:
Originally Posted by StephanM
I dont live in america but since so many died even children which was very sad... i VOTE YES!! Lalalalalalalaalala
The main 'point' in those who are for gun control, is the difference between a weapon that is specifically designed to kill the most amount of people in the shortest amount of time, and a handgun or bolt action rifle used for hunting or self defense.
A 'killing machine' is different than a gun.
This is why there is such a huge argument over the definition of an assault rifle.
Complete gun restriction is a radical idea. Stopping VTech and Columbine incidents is not.
I am perfectly fine with a fully certified person having a concealed weapon around me at all times.
Actually, there have been many statements of people who have been in close proximity to mass murders of how they have now bought a gun, or wished they had a gun at the time.
I don't see why you need to own a weapon that can kill 100 people in a single minute... Much less carry one.
All you people who argue that guns are bad because they are used to kill people simply refuse to acknowledge the fact that if someone has enough willpower to kill you, they do not need a gun to do it.
So pretty much, single / semi round weapons > Assault/SMG (Full auto/Semi).Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunnychaser
My piece about this is similar to Bunnychaser's. I don't mind people carrying concealed weapons around me. Infact, I wouldn't mind having trained personel carrying full auto / rapid fire weapons. It's just the sick basterds that get off on shooting people that I (and pretty much everyone else) dislike. If they ran background checks on mental history as a priority aswel as crimminal record, I believe we'll be fine. Yes there will be the ones who get weapons from illegal means, but it's better than if any mental person could own them.
Well, without a gun, it's way harder to kill me, and i prefer it that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunnychaser
Complete gun restriction is not a radical idea, it's the only good idea that will work. Idk why you 'mericuns are so attached to ur guns, they are made to kill stuff, some do it better than others. Leave that shit for the army.
And as for your statement regarding the people who wished they had a gun when close to a mass murder, well no shit sherlock, I'd love to have a ****in tank if i was close to a mass murder lmfao. That's the exact logic i'm talkin about, "I have a gun to protect myself from other people with guns". So just get rid of all the guns.
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Originally Posted by Sparks
I'm not attached to guns at all, I have never owned one in my life and I believe I never will. I believe they are a waste of money.
It's not as simple as 'taking away' all of the guns.
Millions of people today are buying guns simply to have them grandfathered in by any of the laws that may be passed; a LARGE number of people will still have guns.
We don't have the manpower to take away everyone's guns if they don't consent to bringing it in.
We can't just search everyone's house.
Basically, if a total gun ban is passed, we can't support it fully.
It's not worth the money, or the time, logically, to do it.
how is it not worth the money if guns are the main reason (imo, which i'm guessing u dont agree to) people are dying?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunnychaser
Aren't lives suppose to be priceless?
Also, if they're made illegal, they have a record of everyone that owns guns and hasn't brought them back yet, so technically they probably could get a warrant for that and search their house, or simply keep fining them until they return the guns.
Yes or no there will always be positives and negatives without un natural death the world would be way too populated