A feature that really needs to be implemented

Hey there!

My super long and explicative post got deleted for some ******ed reason I'm too ashamed to mention, therefore I will skip straight to the point.

This is a screenshot of a recent gladiator game I went in, I would like you guys to pay attention to the pings.
http://i37.tinypic.com/33ubn7c.jpg

It doesn't really matter when you can use guns, because of our dear anti-lead, but in gladiator rooms, very high pings are unbearable. This is just a typical room, I would even say I was lucky to get two 90-100 pingers.
Here's what I suggest: A [P???] tag, where you can set a maximum ping before someone is temporarly kicked of a room. It was done before on other servers so I know you guys can do it. But since I do would like to keep this as open to everybody and a welcoming server, I also suggest to make it for Gladiator (and maybe duel) rooms only. Since it's the one place where the anti-lead doesn't do anything. I also think we could make it something like a minimum value of 80-100 to prevent peoples from putting values like [P50].

This way, we could have a way more enjoyable experience for gladiator rooms where people would play against people of the same zones or at least, without lagging to each other.

-Jawarisin

PS: If you have any comment or anything you would like to suggest, please feel free to comment, but read the ENTIRE post first, I am not interested in random comments of peoples who only read half of it (Does look harsh but it happens way too often, I'm saying this out of experience).

But pings are between people. So what are you gonna base the ping on. The room master?

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Originally Posted by Rime

But pings are between people. So what are you gonna base the ping on. The room master?

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on the server?

Ooooooo.ooooooooooo

this will not work out ping varies according to ppl's location and not to mention some ppl couldnt afford decent internet :/

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Originally Posted by Rime

But pings are between people. So what are you gonna base the ping on. The room master?

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Originally Posted by slugheady

on the server?

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VS. the room master. But this can be done via a server ping. I am not sure of how exactly but I know it can be done based on the room master, since it's been done before.

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Originally Posted by Bear

this will not work out ping varies according to ppl's location and not to mention some ppl couldnt afford decent internet :/

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Was done before. Even with crappy internet you can still get a very good ping. I don't have that much of a good connection, 7 mb/s on speedtest (i download at 700-850 kb/s) But i can get a lot of 50's ping, people close to me can hit 6-10 pings.
On such an old game, it's not very demanding.

-Jawarisin

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Originally Posted by Bear

this will not work out ping varies according to ppl's location and not to mention some ppl couldnt afford decent internet :/

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Okay, But people without decent Internet are basically getting an advantage, At that rate why can't use just use TBF macro's then? Just saying.

Ping is ping you're going to have to deal with it just like every other game.

I disagree with a ping limit room-mod and I think Linear and McSic agree with me as well...
Everyone would put P30 or P50 in their room title.

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Originally Posted by KingKhalifa

Ping is ping you're going to have to deal with it just like every other game.

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What other game? Examples please!

-Jawarisin

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Originally Posted by Dave

I disagree with a ping limit room-mod and I think Linear and McSic agree with me as well...
Everyone would put P30 or P50 in their room title.

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ain't that good for less players?
laggers can make there own room

To be honest it's something to do with connection of yours since the server hasn't had lag problems this last 2-3 days.

I had people with high pings (100-150) I gave my internet service provider a call telling them I need stronger connection since I play on 2 xbox's and 1 ps3 and told them that other companies give better connection, and they sent me a new router which now highest ping of a normal player is 30-40 unless br.

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Originally Posted by Divine

To be honest it's something to do with connection of yours since the server hasn't had lag problems this last 2-3 days.

I had people with high pings (100-150) I gave my internet service provider a call telling them I need stronger connection since I play on 2 xbox's and 1 ps3 and told them that other companies give better connection, and they sent me a new router which now highest ping of a normal player is 30-40 unless br.

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Wow, What internet provider do you have?

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Originally Posted by Dave

I disagree with a ping limit room-mod and I think Linear and McSic agree with me as well...
Everyone would put P30 or P50 in their room title.

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Then make it like [EU] so only EU can join or [antiBR] so brasils cant join >: D?

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Originally Posted by DontTouchMeX

ain't that good for less players?
laggers can make there own room

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Unbalanced rooms...
Many people call people with a high ping laggers, but fact is that it's caused by the distance.

Only if they are spiking > lagg.

I still say no.

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Originally Posted by DD0S

Wow, What internet provider do you have?

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BT Broadband (Infinity).

All shooting war games out there for PC (That's a lot ), LoL, I don't play online games much other than that, but all the games I've played online had a lot to deal with other players ping.

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Originally Posted by Belieber

Then make it like [EU] so only EU can join or [antiBR] so brasils cant join >: D?

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No way, lol.

http://media.economist.com/sites/def...6_WBP001_0.jpg

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Originally Posted by Dave

No way, lol.

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Originally Posted by KingKhalifa

Ping is ping you're going to have to deal with it just like every other game.

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What other game? Examples please!

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Originally Posted by Dave

I disagree with a ping limit room-mod and I think Linear and McSic agree with me as well...
Everyone would put P30 or P50 in their room title.

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Originally Posted by Jawarisin

I also think we could make it something like a minimum value of 80-100 to prevent peoples from putting values like [P50].

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-Jawarisin

PS: I did mention to read the whole post...

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Originally Posted by Dave

No way, lol.

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How about make everyones ping the same E.g. Everyone on ping 10

It would be cool to have a room tag that would kick out the spikers, if the pings start to fluctuate quite a lot it sends an auto kick ? Example: 50 - 100 then 100-200 +

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Originally Posted by DontTouchMeX

How about make everyones ping the same E.g. Everyone on ping 10

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That's impossible.

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Originally Posted by Jawarisin

What other game? Examples please!







-Jawarisin

PS: I did mention to read the whole post...

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That doesn't matter. I still say no.
We are an international server, not a server where everyone could/would put such room-tag in their room title.

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Originally Posted by Divine

That's impossible.

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It's not LOL.
Just try to make antilead 100% for brasil to would be great

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Originally Posted by Divine

To be honest it's something to do with connection of yours since the server hasn't had lag problems this last 2-3 days.

I had people with high pings (100-150) I gave my internet service provider a call telling them I need stronger connection since I play on 2 xbox's and 1 ps3 and told them that other companies give better connection, and they sent me a new router which now highest ping of a normal player is 30-40 unless br.

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My internet is fine, if it wasn't, they would all be very high, you wouldn't see a difference of 210 ping from one to another. And i can assure you my internet is fine otherwise, i already checked it.

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Originally Posted by Jawarisin

What other game? Examples please!







-Jawarisin

PS: I did mention to read the whole post...

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Is there a shooter that is not affected by ping?

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Originally Posted by Jawarisin

My internet is fine, if it wasn't, they would all be very high, you wouldn't see a difference of 210 ping from one to another. And i can assure you my internet is fine otherwise, i already checked it.

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Oh right well I don't know then.

I'm just telling you a solution I tried and worked perfectly.

But then BRs could not enjoy the game because everyone with rather play without laggers...so the BRs and other laggers won't be able to play

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Originally Posted by Dave

That doesn't matter. I still say no.
We are an international server, not a server where everyone could/would put such room-tag in their room title.

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That's why I suggested to make this tag valid only in Gladiator rooms. Because they do not beneficy of the anti-lead.
I have nothing against being internationnal, but living in CA, i have better ping with some peoples living in chineese than some BR's or others.
It's just plain annoying.

If peoples wouldn't be happy with the tag, they wouldn't use it. Also keep in mind that peoples will still want others to join, so they wont put it too low, and as previously mentionned, you can put a minimum value.
Honestly, I would even be happy with [P150] as a minimum.

Big games as you might of noticed, have servers, usually US East, West, Europe and Asia. Gunz is different, but we deal with it, Anti-lead makes a kind of bridge in-between, but Glad room do not have it. The result is just
that this server is getting really crappy to play Gladiator on. (Otherwise it's great and I love it!)

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Originally Posted by Overjoy

But then BRs could not enjoy the game because everyone with rather play without laggers...so the BRs and other laggers won't be able to play

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Glad rooms only... They can still enjoy it, and they can make their own room if they want to. The tag isn't an obligation. They can make their "BR" rooms where they can actually talk to each other and have fun instead of being discriminated and teamed on because no one wants them.

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Originally Posted by Bunnychaser

Is there a shooter that is not affected by ping?

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Never had a problem in Call of Duty, Battlefield, PlanetSide 2 and the such. Ping can affect the game, but to such a minimal impact, it doesn't matter that much.
Ever heard of a 5 second lead shot on call of duty?

-Jawarisin

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Originally Posted by Jawarisin

That's why I suggested to make this tag valid only in Gladiator rooms. Because they do not beneficy of the anti-lead.
I have nothing against being internationnal, but living in CA, i have better ping with some peoples living in chineese than some BR's or others.
It's just plain annoying.

If peoples wouldn't be happy with the tag, they wouldn't use it. Also keep in mind that peoples will still want others to join, so they wont put it too low, and as previously mentionned, you can put a minimum value.
Honestly, I would even be happy with [P150] as a minimum.

Big games as you might of noticed, have servers, usually US East, West, Europe and Asia. Gunz is different, but we deal with it, Anti-lead makes a kind of bridge in-between, but Glad room do not have it. The result is just
that this server is getting really crappy to play Gladiator on. (Otherwise it's great and I love it!)



Glad rooms only... They can still enjoy it, and they can make their own room if they want to. The tag isn't an obligation. They can make their "BR" rooms where they can actually talk to each other and have fun instead of being discriminated and teamed on because no one wants them.

-Jawarisin

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or they can even implement sword antilead but that sucks.

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Originally Posted by Doraemon

or they can even implement sword antilead but that sucks.

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I was talking about that in my deleted super long post. But basicallythey tried it on other servers. It really sucked and made the game nearly unplayable. Especially because sword does a kind of "knockback" thing.
That's why I think this tag would be a better idea.

-Jawarisin

Would be a nice feature but really unnecessary. Ping limits can be placed in titles and if not obeyed - the player could be kicked.

It'd be better to actually have a kick mod so players aren't capped with kick limits.

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Originally Posted by Jawarisin

I was talking about that in my deleted super long post. But basicallythey tried it on other servers. It really sucked and made the game nearly unplayable. Especially because sword does a kind of "knockback" thing.
That's why I think this tag would be a better idea.

-Jawarisin

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I dont think they will add it but even if they add it there will less players in that particular room and there will be no fun in playing .

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Originally Posted by Oumari

Would be a nice feature but really unnecessary. Ping limits can be placed in titles and if not obeyed - the player could be kicked.

It'd be better to actually have a kick mod so players aren't capped with kick limits.

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Problem is that if you get 2 non laggers and 2 laggers, you can't kick anybody. And some peoples are just too brainless to press Y or N (oh yeah you know it).

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Originally Posted by Doraemon

I dont think they will add it but even if they add it there will less players in that particular room and there will be no fun in playing .

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Don't add the tag to your room? Don't play in that room? Make your own room?

I don't see the problem, if it's no fun, nobody will use it. But everybody here know that it will be used because it would really be usefull. (I prefer having 1 other player with a decent ping under 100, than 20 players with 500 ping)

-Jawarisin

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Originally Posted by Jawarisin

Even with crappy internet you can still get a very good ping. I don't have that much of a good connection, 7 mb/s on speedtest (i download at 700-850 kb/s) But i can get a lot of 50's ping, people close to me can hit 6-10 pings.
On such an old game, it's not very demanding.

-Jawarisin

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you're saying that you dont have much of a good connection with 7mb/s? that's a decent speed you know, what bear was talking about is 50~100kb/s download speed.

-jawarisin

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Originally Posted by Natto

you're saying that you dont have much of a good connection with 7mb/s? that's a decent speed you know, what bear was talking about is 50~100kb/s download speed.

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I am aware it's not horrible. But I don't even know how you would get a 50-100 kb/s download speed, that isn't even offered by any provider where I live at least. 200 kb/s yes, not lower.

And in any case, you can still join rooms with no tags OR anything else than a gladiator room. I don't think it's fun for them either to be in a room with 20 peoples of 700 ping when there's no viable anti-lead.

-Jawarisin

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Originally Posted by Jawarisin

I am aware it's not horrible. But I don't even know how you would get a 50-100 kb/s download speed, that isn't even offered by any provider where I live at least. 200 kb/s yes, not lower.

-Jawarisin

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In 3rd world countries, yes, they do offer those kind of shitty net speed

-Natto

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Originally Posted by Natto

In 3rd world countries, yes, they do offer those kind of shitty net speed

-Natto

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My second argument is still valid though.

-Jawarisin

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Originally Posted by Jawarisin

My second argument is still valid though.

-Jawarisin

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What argument?

-Jawarisin

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Originally Posted by Natto

What argument?

-Jawarisin

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Originally Posted by Jawarisin

And in any case, you can still join rooms with no tags OR anything else than a gladiator room. I don't think it's fun for them either to be in a room with 20 peoples of 700 ping when there's no viable anti-lead.

-Jawarisin

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-Jawarisin

'-Jawarisin' is dumb.

-Jawarisin

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Originally Posted by Bunnychaser

'-Jawarisin' is dumb.

-Jawarisin

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your jealous, but that's normal, so I don't mind. Please stay on topic though -_-'

-Jawarisin

PS: I so love that dog's picture on your avatar xD

I personally have a 7 Mbit/s (which is not stable, it goes from 3 Mbits/s to 17 Mbits/s) but still the best ping I can get is 55-60..

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Originally Posted by Google

I personally have a 7 Mbit/s (which is not stable, it goes from 3 Mbits/s to 17 Mbits/s) but still the best ping I can get is 55-60..

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shoulnt hve a problem with minimu of [P100] then.
and remember its for GLADIATOR rooms. so if you were thinking about something else...

-Jawarisin

Why not just put no lead for swords also?

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Originally Posted by KillThatNoob

Why not just put no lead for swords also?

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Because the "flinching" that happens when you get hit by a sword completely ruins it (it was done on another server before). Also it would partly ruin the point of blocking since peoples could easily hit you even though you seem to block all their hits. You got the massive issue also.

Too much trouble, and for a bad result. The tag is definetly a better solution, however you look at it.

-Jawarisin

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I'm in Hawaii and I have a 13 up less than 1 down connection. That is average package they sell for internet here. I had a 50/10 connection a few months back but that doesn't really help much with latency due to being overseas. Because of the infrastructure here we don't have the ability to have the same internet quality as the other 50 states in the US and getting the data over the pacific ocean isn't exactly quick. Because of this, most of the time I have 100+ ping to most people playing. I sometimes see decent pings from people on the west coast (around 60-80 ping) but everyone else is about 100 or higher. I even sometimes see people with 180 on the east coast. Anyways, Location is a big factor in ping it's not something you can easily correct on the interwebz. I suppose you could filter it out but that would reduce the enjoyability of a lot of the players in weird locations (like in the middle of the pacific). Timezone is also something to consider and what dominate demographic is online at the time. Say the time I usually log in is the time a bunch of EU players are online. I'm certainly not going to have their preferred 100 or less ping, there will be significantly less rooms I could join and play in. I suppose you could just find a room that doesn't have the ping limiter but if there was such a feature implanted I think many players will use it and it is a good thing for some people but a bad thing for a lot of other people too. I remember playing a server that had the same feature and that was almost close to unplayable for me. So, You can have the feature implanted and if it was based off the ping of the master of the room then people around the master of the room would be able to play fine in that room. But, say if the master leaves and the base ping changes? I suppose that would just kick the people that were happily enjoying their game with almost no complaints of ping. I simply just don't see that part working out too well. Basing it off the server ping wont really work since Gunz is a P2P type of game. I would just leave it be but I only say that because of my internet situation I can't fix because of my location.

It sound's like you know it's HIGHLY unlikely that this can/will happen. Also, it would ruin entire rooms, and if the master leaves, it would need to do some host reconfiguring, somewhat similar to MW3 when the host leaves the game. Not a bad idea but it has been suggested many times by players, and is yet to ever come to fruition.