Remove [R] tag?

I hope people do understand how op this is.


If you don't know why this is so op ill make some examples.

-Shotgun spam
-No reload delay = huge advantage
(you don't need to stop to reload) i would see how this is good in air duels but not tdms wtf?
-You don't need to use this magical thing called good aim to get kills.

I would like R if all of the weapons were at the same DELAY and DAMAGE.
But donors have such a huge advantage spamming their op guns, im still suprised nobody has made threads for this issue.
Even those who have donor guns should be against it, or? it totally ruins the gameplay for me i like rooms without R much better.
i would like if freestylegunz would take this under consideration.

.Stylish.Bow.Tie.

There were like 10000 threads about removing it, I doubt it will be removed.
lock request.

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Originally Posted by Ommadawn

There were like 10000 threads about removing it, I doubt it will be removed.
lock request.

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You never know actually, I'd prefer playing old skool FGunZ instead of the current one that contains 128371931 mod tags.
But yeah, this has been discussed too many times already so requesting lock.

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Originally Posted by George

You never know actually, I'd prefer playing old skool FGunZ instead of the current one that contains 128371931 mod tags.
But yeah, this has been discussed too many times already so requesting lock.

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I didnt say I want the [R] roomtag to stay, I just said I doubt it will be removed.
Ofc I prefer playing oldschool as well, but I disagree about removing all of the roomtags.

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Originally Posted by Ommadawn

I didnt say I want the [R] roomtag to stay, I just said I doubt it will be removed.
Ofc I prefer playing oldschool as well, but I disagree about removing all of the roomtags.

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I'd just want R to be removed ruins the gameplay, too much donors spamming with R gets annoying with breakers.

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Originally Posted by Woffy

I'd just want R to be removed ruins the gameplay, too much donors spamming with R gets annoying with breakers.

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If you have donors vs non-donors you have more chance with [r] actually. (:

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Originally Posted by BaileyJay

If you have donors vs non-donors you have more chance with [r] actually. (:

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And how does that benefits the non-donor players?
That's likewise his situation.

easy,make room (1-8) make it tdm and dont add this fkin noob tag (ilike it :o.o)

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Originally Posted by Surfen

easy,make room (1-8) make it tdm and dont add this fkin noob tag (ilike it :o.o)

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Heres how it works
Person makes [R] room 10 people join.
Person makes non tags room 2 people join.

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Originally Posted by _Ashley_

I feel like this is becoming a donor vs. non-donor debate. I get it, I get that people want things to be fair, equal, what have you. At the same time I feel like if someone is spending $$ for a game/donating to a game they should have some form of advantage. If this were a perfect world where everything was magical and equal then you'd have no donators for the game. Maybe I'm being negative, but just saying.

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Despite that, everything should be balanced else it sucks.

if you remove [r] then ppl gonna cry in training rooms/infected and ctf

Can't kill from far someone with 7 dmg/10 ammo without reloading unless you don't miss once (and even then lol). Prems are out of this world op on this server. They are not even a little bit balanced. I can't believe people don't realise how having 2 extra ammo AND more dmg vs some1 who doesn't isn't broken lol.

me can halp u me is famos on dis pro gunz do u wnt a rom coll me maybe pro

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Originally Posted by Woffy

Heres how it works
Person makes [R] room 10 people join.
Person makes non tags room 2 people join.

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Originally Posted by _Ashley_

I feel like this is becoming a donor vs. non-donor debate. I get it, I get that people want things to be fair, equal, what have you. At the same time I feel like if someone is spending $$ for a game/donating to a game they should have some form of advantage. If this were a perfect world where everything was magical and equal then you'd have no donators for the game. Maybe I'm being negative, but just saying.

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I do understand your statement well, but they already have an ENORMOUS advantage with the op dmg and delay..
Adding the [r] tag makes it impossible to enjoy a competitive game. :/

As they said, this has been requested numerous amounts of times. Think about this logically. Sure you remove the [R] tag and people jump for joy. But how many people really prefer to have the [R] tag removed VS the players who enjoy playing with it and would rather keep it ? From the way I see things, there are far more people who enjoy playing in training rooms and other game modes with the [R] tag, compared to the players who despise the shit out of it and want it removed. I've said this countless times, if you take away the [R] tag, all of those players (a good chunk of our active player count) who enjoy playing with it are most likely going to leave. I don't know where people are pulling this shit out of their ass that if you remove the [R] tag it's going to force all these players to practice harder and get good. No, they're just gonna ****in QQ and leave xD.

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Originally Posted by BaileyJay

Can't kill from far someone with 7 dmg/10 ammo without reloading unless you don't miss once (and even then lol). Prems are out of this world op on this server. They are not even a little bit balanced. I can't believe people don't realise how having 2 extra ammo AND more dmg vs some1 who doesn't isn't broken lol.

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I remember I stopped 1v1ing with people after they got limit breaker due to the fact they could RS way too fast and have extra bullets which made me die 99.9% of the times making the 1v1 way too boring for me.

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Originally Posted by Woffy

I do understand your statement well, but they already have an ENORMOUS advantage with the op dmg and delay..
Adding the [r] tag makes it impossible to enjoy a competitive game. :/

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Listen lol, prems are broken.. PERIOD. So either get them or enjoy unfair fights.. I know it's BS but this is how it works here I guess. =/

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Originally Posted by George

I remember I stopped 1v1ing with people after they got limit breaker due to the fact they could RS way too fast and have extra bullets which made me die 99.9% of the times making the 1v1 way too boring for me.

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LB is slower than the 200 coins donors sgs btw. '-'

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Originally Posted by Eddie

As they said, this has been requested numerous amounts of times. Think about this logically. Sure you remove the [R] tag and people jump for joy. But how many people really prefer to have the [R] tag removed VS the players who enjoy playing with it and would rather keep it ? From the way I see things, there are far more people who enjoy playing in training rooms and other game modes with the [R] tag, compared to the players who despise the shit out of it and want it removed. I've said this countless times, if you take away the [R] tag, all of those players (a good chunk of our active player count) who enjoy playing with it are most likely going to leave. I don't know where people are pulling this shit out of their ass that if you remove the [R] tag it's going to force all these players to practice harder and get good. No, they're just gonna ****in QQ and leave xD.

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Why are they gonna leave when no other server has the [r] tag for tdm and stuff.
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Originally Posted by Woffy

Why are they gonna leave when no other server has the [r] tag for tdm and stuff.
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Because you have the option for turning it off lol. If people enjoy it why would they remove it.

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Originally Posted by Woffy

Why are they gonna leave when no other server has the [r] tag for tdm and stuff.
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I'm not saying they would leave to another server. I'm saying they'll most likely leave as a whole and go no where, or they'll just be really inactive and stay for a few friends.

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Originally Posted by BaileyJay

LB is slower than the 200 coins donors sgs btw. '-'

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I was mostly pointing out the extra bullet because I was like bang bang, I have nothing left and I try to run while the guy is still chasing me and shooting me like he has an inf ammo..

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Originally Posted by BaileyJay

Because you have the option for turning it off lol. If people enjoy it why would they remove it.

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True but yet again, 90% of the room contain the [R] tag and whenever you create a room without it, nobody joins.
The only luck you can have to play with [R] tag is creating a TDM in the first page for instance 003 room otherwise it's a no-no.

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Originally Posted by George

I was mostly pointing out the extra bullet because I was like bang bang, I have nothing left and I try to run while the guy is still chasing me and shooting me like he has an inf ammo..

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This is how every non-donors player feel btw.

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Originally Posted by George

True but yet again, 90% of the room contain the [R] tag and whenever you create a room without it, nobody joins.
The only luck you can have to play with [R] tag is creating a TDM in the first page for instance 003 room otherwise it's a no-no.

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Nobody joins because they don't enjoy it dude lol. Get real. What this thread is asking is removing [r] to force plebs to join rooms they don't feel like playing. [r] isn't the real problem, prems are.

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Originally Posted by BaileyJay

This is how every non-donors player feel btw.

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Yeah which is why you should either nerf the [R] tag somehow (?) or the donation items.

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Originally Posted by George

Yeah which is why you should either nerf the [R] tag somehow (?) or the donation items.

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Nerfing prems is a solution but it won't ever happen because if they only make them a reskin nobody will buy em. One other solution could be to add a tag like [p] which makes all weapons the same dmg and 10 bullets. Problem with this tag is that everybody will start using it because if you don't you're clearly a cheater(unless you don't use prems '-') lol.

There is a dev called "Mike" or something, roomtags are like his wifes. Don't try to screw with them, he'll turn into a little rage boy. So yeah, that basically means that it will never get better :(.

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Originally Posted by _Ashley_

I feel like this is becoming a donor vs. non-donor debate. I get it, I get that people want things to be fair, equal, what have you. At the same time I feel like if someone is spending $$ for a game/donating to a game they should have some form of advantage. If this were a perfect world where everything was magical and equal then you'd have no donators for the game. Maybe I'm being negative, but just saying. And this is coming from a player that sucks really bad, donator or not, I suck. Thanks.

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To be honest this mentality is wrong back when I use to play people didn't donate to p-servers to gain an advantage in the game they donated because they liked the server and wanted to support it wither the donation gave an advantage or not people didn't care of-course your going to get a hell alot more donations when you get this advantage in-game but its slowly killing this game not like its already on life support. Played vs some kid other day to warm-up and after 3-4 rounds he actually said 'wow this no [r] I CANT PLAY [R]' and just randomly left room and said to me 'I have never played without [r]' killing peoples play style they ain't even aware.

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Originally Posted by traumatis3r

To be honest this mentality is wrong back when I use to play people didn't donate to p-servers to gain an advantage in the game they donated because they liked the server and wanted to support it wither the donation gave an advantage or not people didn't care of-course your going to get a hell alot more donations when you get this advantage in-game but its slowly killing this game not like its already on life support. Played vs some kid other day to warm-up and after 3-4 rounds he actually said 'wow this no [r] I CANT PLAY [R]' and just randomly left room and said to me 'I have never played without [r]' killing peoples play style they ain't even aware.

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wut

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Originally Posted by senpai

wut

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Originally Posted by traumatis3r

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hey cutie

i thought they had already removed r from tdm's and duels at one point?

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Originally Posted by -AznNinja

i thought they had already removed r from tdm's and duels at one point?

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nope

its already been discussed and from that the majority wanted it to stay. end of story.

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Originally Posted by traumatis3r

To be honest this mentality is wrong back when I use to play people didn't donate to p-servers to gain an advantage in the game they donated because they liked the server and wanted to support it wither the donation gave an advantage or not people didn't care of-course your going to get a hell alot more donations when you get this advantage in-game but its slowly killing this game not like its already on life support. Played vs some kid other day to warm-up and after 3-4 rounds he actually said 'wow this no [r] I CANT PLAY [R]' and just randomly left room and said to me 'I have never played without [r]' killing peoples play style they ain't even aware.

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Although this is technically how it should be, seeing as the true definition of a donation is to give and not expect any materialistic items in return, not many people nowadays would really donate under that condition. In the GunZ community, unless you give them some sort of advantage with what they're "donating" for, odds are a majority won't buy it. There may be a small percentage who really care about the server and want to help keep it alive, or there may be those (like me) who care about looks and want their characters to look good, but IMO that'd be a really small percentage.

My opinion ? Don't take away the [R] tag people enjoy playing with. Just find a way to fairly nerf all of the weapons and donator weapons to completely balance everything, but still give donator items some sort of advantage, even if it's a very small one (like a slight change in delay but keep the damage the same as most other weapons). Sure a lot of people might cry, but at least it'll be somewhat fair to everyone.

But that most likely won't happen cos *****s is lazy :o.o

I don't see why [R] has to be removed though their are some RARE games out their without [r] and its most of the time full 8v8 tdms and its really enjoyable too most of the time.

kinda contradicting myself but this is how it is the community seem to enjoy the spam so make your own game and since theirs so many people whos aganist it should be full maybe not as much as games with [r] but good enough to be enjoyable :)

This topic has came up way too much, and I'm sticking to what I have said in every single thread pretaining this topic. Having unlimited reload just sounds op in general, Keep it in training rooms and play modes like infected, gungame, etc. This is able to be done easily, we don't allow certain mods in Quest, the same can be done for TDMs and Duels.

If players cry that they want to TDM with [R] we have a Team Training game mode.

That's all.

1. [r] makes skill level go down since no1 cant aim shit without the mod
2. no1 cws cause majority of fg cant play without [r]
3. most people who play fg play [r] cause its easier and more fun but eventually it gets boring and not as fun because people use dumb tactics that ruin the game like spamming and it sucks cause with these 850delay sgs you can triple rs instead of just rsing which makes the spam even worse. Like who dafaq in their right mind would make a game where you don't need to reload your gun.
4. [r] ruins the balance since people can spam snipers all they want without their long reloading time making other weapons like revs useless as fk as much as it already is because of snipers and how op they are
5. People say stuff like "we enjoy [r] mod" and stuff like that but to be honest a game is not that fun if it's unbalanced and everyone resolves on a single tactic being spamming and im pretty sure it ruins the whole concept of gunz as people are now spamming instead of kstyling or dstyling which is the only thing that actually makes the game any different than any other game
6. [r] makes donors even more op cause donors can actually triple rs while non-donor sgs apart from the lvl 60 ones can't. Like damn just make all the sgs in the game 1000delay so people can rs instead of triple rs which helps reduce the spam as well as make it so people will do more movement.

agreed

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1. [r] makes skill level go down since no1 cant aim shit without the mod
2. no1 cws cause majority of fg cant play without [r]
3. most people who play fg play [r] cause its easier and more fun but eventually it gets boring and not as fun because people use dumb tactics that ruin the game like spamming and it sucks cause with these 850delay sgs you can triple rs instead of just rsing which makes the spam even worse. Like who dafaq in their right mind would make a game where you don't need to reload your gun.
4. [r] ruins the balance since people can spam snipers all they want without their long reloading time making other weapons like revs useless as fk as much as it already is because of snipers and how op they are
5. People say stuff like "we enjoy [r] mod" and stuff like that but to be honest a game is not that fun if it's unbalanced and everyone resolves on a single tactic being spamming and im pretty sure it ruins the whole concept of gunz as people are now spamming instead of kstyling or dstyling which is the only thing that actually makes the game any different than any other game
6. [r] makes donors even more op cause donors can actually triple rs while non-donor sgs apart from the lvl 60 ones can't. Like damn just make all the sgs in the game 1000delay so people can rs instead of triple rs which helps reduce the spam as well as make it so people will do more movement.

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I agree with 6. not the rest lol. Let people enjoy [r] if they like don't join if you don't wtf lol.

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Originally Posted by BaileyJay

I agree with 6. not the rest lol. Let people enjoy [r] if they like don't join if you don't wtf lol.

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in what way are they wrong?

dis thred is stoopid

regardless of what is said they aren't going to remove [r]

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Originally Posted by Woffy

Heres how it works
Person makes [R] room 10 people join.
Person makes non tags room 2 people join.

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ik dat feel bro, that's why i donated :(

We have no plans on removing any roomtag.

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Originally Posted by Dave

We have no plans on removing any roomtag.

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Would you take it under consideration if half of the server wanted [R] to be removed from tdms,dms etc (only for training rooms)
if so, i'd advise you to make a poll :)

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Originally Posted by Woffy

Would you take it under consideration if half of the server wanted [R] to be removed from tdms,dms etc (only for training rooms)
if so, i'd advise you to make a poll :)

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Not everyone is registered on the forums apperently

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Originally Posted by Woffy

Would you take it under consideration if half of the server wanted [R] to be removed from tdms,dms etc (only for training rooms)
if so, i'd advise you to make a poll :)

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This discussion has been held plenty of times before, we will not remove the roomtag, nor limit it to certain modes.
Maybe in the far future? Who knows, but not anytime soon.

Why is this thread stilll not lockedddd.
the previous 43242392 threads about this topic were almost insta locked

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Originally Posted by Dave

We have no plans on removing any roomtag.

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There we go guys. Head master of fgunz has spoken now stfu [r] tag is stayin so enjoy fgunz while it last. soon there wont be any of this. just appreciate it

maybe [r] can be removed from team deathmatch/duel only.
same as [dmg?] that works only in infected .

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Originally Posted by Dave

This discussion has been held plenty of times before, we will not remove the roomtag, nor limit it to certain modes.
Maybe in the far future? Who knows, but not anytime soon.

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What about adding an EXP restriction when the [R] mod is active. I think that was brought up before and would add some sort of deterrent to use the tag if people are EXP farming.

Or certain room tags can't be used simultaneously such as [IA] and [R].

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Originally Posted by Shino

Or certain room tags can't be used simultaneously such as [IA] and [R].

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this is a good solution in my opinion

yes! n1 thought shino

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Originally Posted by Woffy

Heres how it works
Person makes [R] room 10 people join.
Person makes non tags room 2 people join.

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If this is the case then keep the [R] Tag. Clearly it attracts players

case closed..?

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Originally Posted by Dave

We have no plans on removing any roomtag.

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the reason is obvious.

shits happened to ***kgunz after it was removed.

i guess all gunz servers fall on same pit after all

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Originally Posted by Shino

What about adding an EXP restriction when the [R] mod is active. I think that was brought up before and would add some sort of deterrent to use the tag if people are EXP farming.

Or certain room tags can't be used simultaneously such as [IA] and [R].

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By jove I think he's got it!

aint ganna happen if you're not down with that i got two words for ya SUCK IT.

[R] won't be removed anyway, no matter how much ppl might dislike it (I myself kinda dislike it aswell).
Just accept this and get over it, I don't know why this has been brought up so many times already.
Don't you people see this won't make any difference.
Btw why is this thread not locked yet?

This thread is futile, Dave has already ended this discussion. Not to mention a discussion that had been brought up time and time again.

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Originally Posted by Dave

This discussion has been held plenty of times before, we will not remove the roomtag, nor limit it to certain modes.
Maybe in the far future? Who knows, but not anytime soon.

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