PC overheating / feeling hot.

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04-18-2015
GeorgeGFX

PC overheating / feeling hot.

This is not really GunZ related but dunno where else to post.
I noticed recently that my PC on the top part of the case is getting warm whenever I play game that require high-end gaming computers.
For instance - Watch Dogs, Crysis 3 (gets really hot), GTA V, World of Warcraft (Retail)
But if I decide to to coding and stuff, I usually start a lot of programs and stuff, GunZ is also running, the tower of my PC doesn't really feel warm at all.
I can't say what's causing it, is it any of my components causing the PC to overheat, I don't know which is why I came here for assistance.

PC specifications;
CPU - Core i5-4440
RAM - 2x4 (8) GB
GPU - AMD Radeon R9 200
Motherboard - ASRock Z87 Extreme4

Usually when I lower from Ultra to Low video settings, it won't feel that hot so my conclusion is that it could be my graphic card causing the overheat since by default it's FAN speed is usually at 30-45% according to AMD Catalyst drivers.

http://i.imgur.com/WtzrtN4.png

SS of temperatures;

http://i.imgur.com/M6e2eiU.png

http://i.imgur.com/suzpcxU.png
04-18-2015
Juriën

would probably heat that can't get out of the case it self
try opening one side for an instance, and check if it's still warm.

I am pretty sure, the heat that will be extracted from your gpu and cpu, can't get anywhere out (usually you need case fans)
also check if the actual regulation in your case is right (case fan @ top) as heat always goes up.
04-18-2015
ZAIN

temps look fine, probably just heat accumulating on the top. try adding an exhaust fan for airflow
04-18-2015
Juriën

what I am saying is:

http://assets.overclock.net.s3.amazo...tach208316.png

pretty sure zain thinks the same.
04-18-2015
GeorgeGFX

Alright good points, I actually forgot to mention that my tower is considered a medium one, not a high one so my motherboard is huge, causing my tower to not have space for extra fan cooler on the top spot.

The tower I have;
http://www.coolermaster.com/case/mid...-k350-kwn2-en/

I have 4 fans in total installed.
One in the front, one in the back, one in the left side of the case all of which are 120mm and are pretty good.
As for the top one, I have 80 or 90mm one which sucks pretty hard due to the fact as I mentioned, I have no space to put a 120mm there, it hits the motherboard and there's nothing I can do about that.
04-18-2015
ZAIN

how do u have ur fans installed? it matters which fans inhale and which fans exhaust
04-18-2015
Juriën

Quote:

Originally Posted by George

Alright good points, I actually forgot to mention that my tower is considered a medium one, not a high one so my motherboard is huge, causing my tower to not have space for extra fan cooler on the top spot.

The tower I have;
http://www.coolermaster.com/case/mid...-k350-kwn2-en/

I have 4 fans in total installed.
One in the front, one in the back, one in the left side of the case all of which are 120mm and are pretty good.
As for the top one, I have 80 or 90mm one which sucks pretty hard due to the fact as I mentioned, I have no space to put a 120mm there, it hits the motherboard and there's nothing I can do about that.

Can't think of anything else then...
get a smaller motherboard and install better cooling :')

ps:
try changing the fan speed in bios to a higher value (they will make more noise, but cool better, if motherboard supports)

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Originally Posted by Zain

how do u have ur fans installed? it matters which fans inhale and which fans exhaust

^ this
04-18-2015
GeorgeGFX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juriën

what I am saying is:

http://assets.overclock.net.s3.amazo...tach208316.png

pretty sure zain thinks the same.

I have the exact same installation though the top part is 80 or 90mm one, not 120mm which sucks pretty hard, it does almost nothing due to it's low RPM T_T

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Originally Posted by Zain

how do u have ur fans installed? it matters which fans inhale and which fans exhaust

The picture Jurien posted, same installation as all of the fans are 120mm except the top one which is I think 90mm one.
04-18-2015
Juriën

Quote:

Originally Posted by George

I have the exact same installation though the top part is 80 or 90mm one, not 120mm which sucks pretty hard, it does almost nothing due to it's low RPM T_T

how about removing the side one and put it in back.

front > inhale
back > exhale
top > exhale

making it one circulation, instead of 2
04-18-2015
GeorgeGFX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juriën

how about removing the side one and put it in back.

front > inhale
back > exhale
top > exhale

making it one circulation, instead of 2

Current state is;
Front > inhale
Right side > inhale
Back > Exhale
Top > Exhale

Won't make much difference.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Juriën

how about removing the side one and put it in back.

front > inhale
back > exhale
top > exhale

making it one circulation, instead of 2

Here are more screenies to make it more clear;

http://assets.coolermaster.com/globa.../K350-ph-2.jpg

That's how it works though ignore the bottom part where it points up cuz that's where my PSU is.
04-18-2015
Juriën

Quote:

Originally Posted by George

Current state is;
Front > inhale
Right side > inhale
Back > Exhale
Top > Exhale

Won't make much difference.

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Here are more screenies to make it more clear;

http://assets.coolermaster.com/globa.../K350-ph-2.jpg

That's how it works though ignore the bottom part where it points up cuz that's where my PSU is.

psu can inhale/exhale too son
04-18-2015
GeorgeGFX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juriën

psu can inhale/exhale too son

It does it's job alone don't mind it lol.
04-18-2015
Juriën

Quote:

Originally Posted by George

It does it's job alone don't mind it lol.

the thing I am talking about though, is that your side fan could disorder the air flow
04-18-2015
GeorgeGFX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juriën

the thing I am talking about though, is that your side fan could disorder the air flow

Not really just that the 90mm isn't fast enough I guess which causes the case to not have a perfect flow ;-;
Dunno what to do lol.
04-18-2015
Juriën

it still wouldn't hurt to check if you can put the rpm up via bios or program.. unless you sleep next to your pc..

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Originally Posted by George

Not really just that the 90mm isn't fast enough I guess which causes the case to not have a perfect flow ;-;
Dunno what to do lol.

and there is no way to lower the motherboard a bit?
usually a case has second holes for each screw
04-18-2015
GeorgeGFX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juriën

it still wouldn't hurt to check if you can put the rpm up via bios or program.. unless you sleep next to your pc..

I do sleep next to my PC but I turn it before I go to bed lol cba to have noises tho I will check if I can boost it but last time I checked, I don't think I had that option.

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Originally Posted by Juriën

it still wouldn't hurt to check if you can put the rpm up via bios or program.. unless you sleep next to your pc..

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and there is no way to lower the motherboard a bit?
usually a case has second holes for each screw

Nope, no way at all.
04-18-2015
Juriën

then I am out of clues, if you can't crank the rpm up a bit
04-18-2015
GeorgeGFX

I just wanted to know if it's just that top fan causing the trouble or the graphic card FAN because if I lower the vid settings of Crysis it does feel warm but not that warm as on Ultra settings.
04-18-2015
Juriën

Quote:

Originally Posted by George

I just wanted to know if it's just that top fan causing the trouble or the graphic card FAN because if I lower the vid settings of Crysis it does feel warm but not that warm as on Ultra settings.

ofcourse it gets warmer as it gets more work to do.
but the fans do what they can, only thing I can think about is the air flow itself, as hot air always goes up.
04-18-2015
Dave

Temperatures of under 70 Celsius is not really that hot when you play such heavy games. You should start to worry when the temperature reaches 90+ Celsius.
04-18-2015
Juriën

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave

Temperatures of under 70 Celsius is not really that hot when you play such heavy games. You should start to worry when the temperature reaches 90+ Celsius.

^ this too
04-18-2015
GeorgeGFX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave

Temperatures of under 70 Celsius is not really that hot when you play such heavy games. You should start to worry when the temperature reaches 90+ Celsius.

And have my VGA melted, I always worry about the temps ;-;
I will try to boost the RPM of my top fan lets see if anything will change.
04-18-2015
Dave

Quote:

Originally Posted by George

And have my VGA melted, I always worry about the temps ;-;
I will try to boost the RPM of my top fan lets see if anything will change.

Nothing will melt because if your PC reaches a dangerously high temperature, it will automatically turn itself off.
04-18-2015
GeorgeGFX

Opened the case, I can't do any changes after checking the fan pins on the motherboard.
I have 3 pins in total, one for the back, one for the front fan and I had to bought connector back in the days to connect both the top and rear fan on the last 3rd pin.
Overall best solution is to get a new case which won't happen anytime soon.
Thanks for the assistance though.