"Training Sniper"

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Forum/FGunZ/Other - FGunZ


Suggestion title: Training Sniper


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Since all of this hate on snipers with the delay nerf because of them being "imbalanced" id like to suggest a "Training Sniper" 0 dmg with old sniper delays. Pls Mike <3

How will users benefit from a Training Sniper?
I don't see why this is a good idea - Simply because I do not see how players will benefit from this.
There are Training Shotguns and Revolvers simply because those are the two most commonly used weapons throughout the game - Next to Sprayers / Snipers.
Adding a Training Sniper is useless IMO - Unless you can back up as to why it should be added.

to train wut exactly? a weapon which wont have the same stats in the shop which actually does dmg?

that would probably be as useful as a knitted condom

how about making training meds too

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Originally Posted by Queen Lauren

How will users benefit from a Training Sniper?
I don't see why this is a good idea - Simply because I do not see how players will benefit from this.
There are Training Shotguns and Revolvers simply because those are the two most commonly used weapons throughout the game - Next to Sprayers / Snipers.
Adding a Training Sniper is useless IMO - Unless you can back up as to why it should be added.

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They should be added because SOME players do use snipers and prefer snipers in the game, just because the majority of players dont use snipers does not mean that the small select few players cannot practice aim without 2 shotting people. its simple TRAINING Sniper aim, accuracy.

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Originally Posted by Queen Lauren

How will users benefit from a Training Sniper?
I don't see why this is a good idea - Simply because I do not see how players will benefit from this.
There are Training Shotguns and Revolvers simply because those are the two most commonly used weapons throughout the game - Next to Sprayers / Snipers.
Adding a Training Sniper is useless IMO - Unless you can back up as to why it should be added.

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Alot of people like training rooms and stick in it alot , and they might use a training sniper why not ?
I don't mind the idea.

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Originally Posted by Twelvvy

Suggestion type:
Forum/FGunZ/Other - FGunZ


Suggestion title: Training Sniper


Suggestion description:

Since all of this hate on snipers with the delay nerf because of them being "imbalanced" id like to suggest a "Training Sniper" 0 dmg with old sniper delays. Pls Mike <3

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this is a bad idea because what exactly would you train? it has lower delay which will make your real dmg delay mess up. if you wanna add such a thing keep the delay that normal snipers have.

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Originally Posted by Bunnys

this is a bad idea because what exactly would you train? it has lower delay which will make your real dmg delay mess up. if you wanna add such a thing keep the delay that normal snipers have.

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Old Delay to practice Aim and accuracy. delay is already rememberd.

I suggested this a long time ago and it was declined.

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Originally Posted by Prone

I suggested this a long time ago and it was declined.

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declined for what reasons? how could this cause any negativity?

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Originally Posted by Twelvvy

declined for what reasons? how could this cause any negativity?

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I dont remember why considering it was a long time ago. I tried to propose that it could create new events and that there were pretty much training weapons for every other weapon type, but I guess it wasn't enough. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against this.. It'll just probably get declined like mine did. Good luck though.

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Originally Posted by Prone

I dont remember why considering it was a long time ago. I tried to propose that it could create new events and that there were pretty much training weapons for every other weapon type, but I guess it wasn't enough. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against this.. It'll just probably get declined like mine did. Good luck though.

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i appreciate it man, i dont see any bad in bringing training snipers with ZERO damage..

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Originally Posted by Twelvvy

declined for what reasons? how could this cause any negativity?

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most of the times the suggestion gets declined without stating any reason for it being declined, or just not a valid reason

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Originally Posted by Twelvvy

Old Delay to practice Aim and accuracy. delay is already rememberd.

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"delay is already remembered"? can you tell that to the people who try to learn tbf?

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Originally Posted by Bunnys

"delay is already remembered"? can you tell that to the people who try to learn tbf?

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well im not asking for a TBF sword, im asking for a training sniper, i guess old delay new delay just a training sniper so people dont get pissy.

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Originally Posted by Twelvvy

well im not asking for a TBF sword, im asking for a training sniper, i guess old delay new delay just a training sniper so people dont get pissy.

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if you wanna practice aim use revs. they are exactly the same if you ignore the damage.

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Originally Posted by Bunnys

if you wanna practice aim use revs. they are exactly the same if you ignore the damage.

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Revs =/= Sniper. Sorry but different mechanics.. completely.

Although I am not a sniper fan I mean, it couldn't hurt to put one in. The fact that everyone is fighting this without any valid reason whatsoever is hilarious. It's a training sniper to TRAIN your sniper aim and accuracy. Rather than going all out TDM or DM with sniper and getting wrecked. I support this idea.

Side Note : How are revs anything like snipers, that is the biggest understatement I have ever heard. Do you have a scope with revs? Do you have to press shift or any other key to aim with revs? The answer is no and I rest my case.

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Originally Posted by Hulk

Alot of people like training rooms and stick in it alot , and they might use a training sniper why not ?
I don't mind the idea.
p.s : stop trying so hard to be staff ok.

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This. :o.o

If there shouldn't be training sniper there shouldn't be training shotguns, rifles, sword, etc.

If any training snipers get added, they will not have the old delay.

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Originally Posted by Mike

If any training snipers get added, they will not have the old delay.

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just curious how that would affect them if they are training?

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Originally Posted by Twelvvy

just curious how that would affect them if they are training?

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I'm not going to modify the code so 1-2 snipers are unaffected by the nerf.
And that is IF any get added, it's not my call and I doubt any are going to be added anyway.

come on mike DO IT!!!111!!
the training room ppl make up a large portion of the player base..
still useless, but they are also the ones who tend to donate more and are actually friendly on this server
imo they deserve something nice
that said, I understand its not really worth the time..but, idk, theyre c00l y0

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Originally Posted by Mike

I doubt any are going to be added anyway.

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Why are you so diligent to doubt they will be added? just curious, Theres even training rocket launchers ye? just dont understand why there wouldnt be any training snipers; noting that they would piss people off less than reg snipers.

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Originally Posted by Mike

If any training snipers get added, they will not have the old delay.

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This is understandable.... if you wanna get better at snipe by adding a training one, it must have the same stats as the one we have now, else there's no point of training something not related to the actual thing.

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Originally Posted by Twelvvy

Why are you so diligent to doubt they will be added? just curious, Theres even training rocket launchers ye? just dont understand why there wouldnt be any training snipers; noting that they would piss people off less than reg snipers.

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You don't have to convince me, I don't care. Dave/McSic are the ones that get final say on zitem changes (new weapons aka training snipers).

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Originally Posted by Michi

This is understandable.... if you wanna get better at snipe by adding a training one, it must have the same stats as the one we have now, else there's no point of training something not related to the actual thing.

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well if youre trying to get better at aiming taking more shots and learning how to lead (on anti-lead server lel) and place shots, then old delay would help with that. but getting better overall to what to what they were nerfed too, making them same delay would make more sense tbh.

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Originally Posted by Mike

You don't have to convince me, I don't care. Dave/McSic are the ones that get final say on zitem changes (new weapons aka training snipers).

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Im glad you dont care about my suggestion and reasons for it, but the thing is this is a forum thread FOR my suggestions and reasons for it, so im simply questioning what you are saying under the Thread i made. no reason to get so defensive / elitist. Im simply trying to get the most facts from everybody, get their opinion, maybe change opinions. Thanks i suppose.

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Originally Posted by Hulk

p.s : stop trying so hard to be staff ok.

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fukin' aye!


OT: If they got added, they should have the same delay as the ones now, otherwise training with them wouldn't have any effect on the actual playstyle of snipers.

Training snipers can be added, they will be exactly the same as the current snipers though.. with 0 damage.

And what about 2 kinds of donation snipers with the old delays?

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Originally Posted by Dave

Training snipers can be added, they will be exactly the same as the current snipers though.. with 0 damage.

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If you're going to add training snipers then you should make them as the previous snipers' delay because its 0 damage..

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Originally Posted by Ommadawn

If you're going to add training snipers then you should make them as the previous snipers' delay because its 0 damage..

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That's just asking for people spam shotting again without any actual aim. They're bad enough aim wise, if they get training snipers they should at least be true to the actual playstyle, that will make them useful

and yeah... coding and stuff

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Originally Posted by Ommadawn

If you're going to add training snipers then you should make them as the previous snipers' delay because its 0 damage..

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Seems to me that you're training with a non-existent weapon then (as the delay isn't the same as the original sniper's that deal damage) and you're training something that might not be do able with them then.

Closing this. Dave said they could be added, it's up to them to add items. No the new training snipers will not have the old delay.