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Hey all , I have a question.
Are the Devs working on anti-lead system to fix it ?
***** Gunz has better anti lead and it's sht server , if this server would have better anti-lead everyone would come here and smek all other pservers.
I all hit and sometimes I do like 20 dmg , even though I hit 10-12 shots.
Sometimes I hit from close range and do 10 dmg Oo.
Edit : Can someone tell me what is this ping advantage ? the one who has delay on upload/download speed has the advantage or what ?
No, we are not currently working on it.
In order to work on it we need to know what work needs to be done on it first. (And simply stating "fix it" is useless to us)
I think the dmg dosen't register corectly. Or ping affect the anti lead too hard , for ex when I play vs a 250 ping they do uber dmg , they miss 5 shots but they kill me with 4 and I hit them 12 shots but only 100-150 dmgQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave
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Originally Posted by Dave
????? He clearly states what's wrong with the server's antilead system.. you should read better my friend.......................Quote:
Originally Posted by fcklogic
a reason for not doing the full damage could be because he's on wifi and loses packetsQuote:
Originally Posted by Overdrive
I expierence not a huge packet loss but a bit and i see that affects the hits( dmg) getting placed on the person
thats cuz u cant aim fam
What he said is completely useless to us. We can't do anything with that information.Quote:
Originally Posted by Overdrive
It's true. There is something wrong with the anti lead. Pbs do not always register especially vs high pings
im not on wifii , how did you fix the problem ? it's boring when worse players kill me and I kill better players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuwadie
please make the anti-lead pass through the server because delay to shots registering more than no register at all.............
have you tried portforwarding ?Quote:
Originally Posted by fcklogic
edit : i havent fixxed the problem because im on wifi not on cable
no :S think that would help ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuwadie
try that first and see if it helpsQuote:
Originally Posted by fcklogic
There are ton of posts about the problems that Anti-Lead system has Dave. Alot of times damage doesnt register like it should. You can clearly do a full pb on somebody with all the pallets hitting and deal 20 dmg. Hell i've done alot of 7 damage shots with Limit Breaker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
And you should start working on how to fix these things.
Also ping and distance effects the anti-lead way too much. Not just the delay, but the damage too.
do you know the reason for the ping ? if someone have delay on upload and download they have bigged advantage?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunfire
peer 2 peer smh... just make packets pass through server please.... and its all good
Port Forwarding is for wireless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuwadie
http://www.twitch.tv/hitslikeavan/v/23883734
this is a good example too. And yes this happens alot.
my internet cable is from the router , this means port forward will help me ? I do this beacouse my wi fi is limited to 60mb/s but when I put ethernet cable in router I get 300mb/sQuote:
Originally Posted by Paul
You do not need to portforward at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by fcklogic
SO many times people post a suggestion to fix the anti lead with no results. FG is dying faster than I thought
If we make it server sided then shots will take more time to register, and that's not a definite solution to the problem. There's still a chance that shots don't "register well".Quote:
Originally Posted by Zéxi
You guys clearly do not understand that we can't do anything with it. How are we supposed to know what's causing it when the shots sometimes DO register and sometimes DO NOT register well? (According to you guys)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunfire
Yeah sure why don't you just fix it for us if you think it's so easy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Azula
how about you make a test server with anti-lead server sided like you did with challenge quest ? so we could test it and tell you if it works fine '-'Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
It's possible to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zéxi
damn zexi took the words right out of my mouth lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zéxi
anti lead is shit since years and it will never get fixed, quit complaining.
I can actually. But u will never give me the codes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
I feel like it's lead and anti lead, if you get hit just right you're being damaged twice by one shot
>Hits like 10 times with the sword
>still almost full hp
Swords are always lead.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiritoOnline
As dave stated, swords are always lead. Just because your hit counter says you hit someone doesn't mean you did. The hit counter is a poor indicator of damage dealt. Now, this could be improved to where it first checks how much dmg was dealt, and based on that either draw the hit counter text or don't.
It's a lot of work to implement a solution that would work for such a fast paced game as Gunz. Especially considering what everyone seems to want would require client side and server side implementation pieces. Client side detection and server side authentication, good luck to whoever takes that on and tries to do it properly, if anyone does.
You would think people would just use the LEAD tag if they don't like the anti-lead don't use it???
The calculations which determine if the shot you're about to take will register & do damage or not should be calculated when you have your mouse hovered over the hit-box of an enemy player, basically doing the calculation prior to taking your shot. Keep that routine on a separate thread.
So you mean when you hover over them it will "calculate" and when you shoot it will use that "pre-calculated" thing to "register" the damage.If there is too many people in game that would really lagg and that doesn't sound easy to make.Let's take for example that you have for example 6 people around you and all of you spin around with changing weapons,what do you think would happend?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jallen
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Originally Posted by Zéxi
THIS. OMG ZEXI I DIDNT KNOW YOU CAN THINK!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zéxi
I'd like to point out some few flaws on this server. Listen y'all, I mean no disrespect, I love this server and all the people with it including enemies but this problem with the Anti-Lead has been going on since I started in this server which was 2 years ago!
It's like, whenever I fight people with 150-190 pings it's harder to get my shots to register. This one time, I was fighting a dude from NA, our pings were at 120 (which is normal from my experience on playing with NA people back in iGunz). I had to go super-saiyan-god just to kill this *****. Usually, 2 good pb's and 2 or 3 normal shots should do the trick, but man, 3 pbs = 30 damage? This is just way to terrible. If I'm not mistaken or rather, to the best extent of my knowledge, we use p2p which means the opponent's ping is exactly my ping given the distance + internet speed gap (currently, I have 15 mbps which is pretty fast if you're in PH, we currently have no option for fiber optics since mehhh Ph) so my opponent should have a hard time dealing damage to me as well. I don't know exactly, but it seems like they have an advatange? Maybe? Sorry, I really can't throw it out there. Or maybe my opponent was hacking?
Anyway, I also wanted to point out that dealing damage to 200-250 pingers are A LOT EASIER than dealing damage to people with 120-190 pings. I can 3 shot them if I get close enough, but i need to be quick to kill him first, you see, if by any chance, he actually deals the same damage to me, then by the end of that round, I'll kill him and he'll kill me too, in that exact moment. Funny thing is, the round won't say draw game, but it will declare the first dude who actually got the damage first as the winner, this pretty much makes sense ofc.
Any thoughts about this?
I haven't been on this since 2013, but you guys need to understand that it's much more than just ping. The issue is with the way gunz is coded.
I personally have never touched gunz' code, but since I'm finishing up my semester with finals in the coming weeks I can check it out and see.
Is that you with the glasses?Quote:
Originally Posted by YeuPho
Sup, yea that's me :) I work for MLG and this was at the MLG finals in NO back in OctoberQuote:
Originally Posted by Fourth
I'm talking about the dude on the right side. Das you?Quote:
Originally Posted by YeuPho
I'm the one on the left fam :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fourth
The one on the right side reminds me of michi.Quote:
Originally Posted by YeuPho
Don't know who that is, but this guy is the designer for MLG. He's in charge of merch designs + site. We call him big tony, but he's skinny af, cool guy :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fourth
how tf is it possible not to know michi. He's like, the black dude of FG community, you can't hate this guy lol, it's like, he's the only black dude reppin the #Shire.Quote:
Originally Posted by YeuPho
Anyway, back on topic: Yo, I know you ain't in the position to say anything about this, but since you know how to code stuff, do you think there's a possibility to fix this issue? Man it's a nightmare.
I don't know anyone on here honestly. I used to play back on LG and decided to start playing again back in 2011 and joined fgunz. Here I am again in '15 because I have nothing else to do and my semester is almost over so I needed to find a game, this came to mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fourth
It's possible to fix it, but not with a small patch. I haven't seen the code for gunz since I never had a interest in it. I'm only finishing my junior year of CS almost close to getting my B.S., but I do know C++. This just depends on how spaghetti the code is and if I understand it. I don't know how the game is coded, so if there isn't comments at all I'm lost on figuring out what to look at until I study it.
Dude, take a look at the previous threads made about anti-lead in the past 6-8 months. You'll understand that 60% of current players are facing the same problem. I mean 60% of people playing this game can't have bad net all at the same time right? I don't know man, kinda lost myself lol. I even posted a thread about this way back in august or september I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by YeuPho
Since people keep going off topic this thread will now be locked.
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