Regarding reports

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Forum/FGunZ/Other
Forum

Suggestion title:
Make Hacker & Players Reports section private

Suggestion description:
Basically suggesting this to prevent the daily drama and player complaints we get everyday as reports are more of a private matter and it will never change anything and will always just annoy people and cause flame wars.

I think they should remain public, it's good that community can see who the hackers are like Mr Corpse.

what if it involves the player being reported

we should be able to see it

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Originally Posted by Allele

what if it involves the player being reported

we should be able to see it

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No, we can just provide them with the evidence they were banned/muted for if they ask for it.

i mean't we (the players being reported) but ye good idea i suppose

nah public reports are great for the community :)

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Originally Posted by Zéxi

Suggestion type:
Forum/FGunZ/Other
Forum

Suggestion title:
Make Hacker & Players Reports section private

Suggestion description:
Basically suggesting this to prevent the daily drama and player complaints we get everyday as reports are more of a private matter and it will never change anything and will always just annoy people and cause flame wars.

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no, because some GM are really bad at spotting legit / unlegit people like srsly rofl

i hit goblin king 3 time in a row

i got banned

I say no and keep them the way they are. And in fact, I think forum reports should be open to the public as well. If the only defense is "to prevent flame wars and daily drama," then I'm sorry but hiding those things isn't going to prevent daily drama and/or flaming. If you want to stop daily drama/flaming, you may as well take the entire server and forums down as a whole. People are always going to find something to bitch about on this game, whether they're 12 or 25 years old.

Now I'm not saying just let people do whatever and have no structure at all. I do think if you truly want to prevent drama and flame wars in regards to reports, (too lazy to check if the rule currently exists) a rule should be added that states no threads or public comments are to be made about in-game or forum reports.

I, and I'm sure many others, would much rather have it all public and know who is an unlegit player on this server, so we know who to be cautious of. I also think it'd be more convenient to know if you're being reported before you even receive any punishment, that way if you have proof to defend yourself, you can just avoid the punishment all together, rather than having punishments on your record that you may not have even deserved in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Eddie

I say no and keep them the way they are. And in fact, I think forum reports should be open to the public as well. If the only defense is "to prevent flame wars and daily drama," then I'm sorry but hiding those things isn't going to prevent daily drama and/or flaming. If you want to stop daily drama/flaming, you may as well take the entire server and forums down as a whole. People are always going to find something to bitch about on this game, whether they're 12 or 25 years old.

Now I'm not saying just let people do whatever and have no structure at all. I do think if you truly want to prevent drama and flame wars in regards to reports, (too lazy to check if the rule currently exists) a rule should be added that states no threads or public comments are to be made about in-game or forum reports.

I, and I'm sure many others, would much rather have it all public and know who is an unlegit player on this server, so we know who to be cautious of. I also think it'd be more convenient to know if you're being reported before you even receive any punishment, that way if you have proof to defend yourself, you can just avoid the punishment all together, rather than having punishments on your record that you may not have even deserved in the first place.

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That works too!

No, let the community know who hacks around the server.

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Originally Posted by Zéxi

No, we can just provide them with the evidence they were banned/muted for if they ask for it.

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Wouldn't bring more complains towards you ? Also isn't it the same thing as making the reports public ?

Unless you wanna get spammed every report. Attention seeker Zexi spotted. :3

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Originally Posted by Eddie

I say no and keep them the way they are. And in fact, I think forum reports should be open to the public as well. If the only defense is "to prevent flame wars and daily drama," then I'm sorry but hiding those things isn't going to prevent daily drama and/or flaming. If you want to stop daily drama/flaming, you may as well take the entire server and forums down as a whole. People are always going to find something to bitch about on this game, whether they're 12 or 25 years old.

Now I'm not saying just let people do whatever and have no structure at all. I do think if you truly want to prevent drama and flame wars in regards to reports, (too lazy to check if the rule currently exists) a rule should be added that states no threads or public comments are to be made about in-game or forum reports.

I, and I'm sure many others, would much rather have it all public and know who is an unlegit player on this server, so we know who to be cautious of. I also think it'd be more convenient to know if you're being reported before you even receive any punishment, that way if you have proof to defend yourself, you can just avoid the punishment all together, rather than having punishments on your record that you may not have even deserved in the first place.

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Finally someone being realistic..!

why would you made it private ? make it more public like if the report isnt finished yet we can still see the thread

i actually think its best to prevent reports for minor reasons, people watch the public reports and therefore get an idea of what is punishable and what isnt (along with what to do and what not to do)

keep em public, make em no life nerd losers suffer....

Make public, but whats the point, most of reports are declined cuz ppl cant spot unlegitness.

i agree men private so i can start banning randoms without dem knowing

i want to see daily drama its fun

but the hacker and player reports should just stay public

I think players need to hav eoption to comment on reports too

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Originally Posted by BarBitch

I think players need to hav eoption to comment on reports too

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this

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Originally Posted by BarBitch

I think players need to hav eoption to comment on reports too

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Yea I cant wait for Robel to write a 1000 words essay about how legit (he calls unlegits legits obv.) reported player was and how corrupted staff is on every report.

Really nice idea.

I think its fine the way it is. e.e

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Originally Posted by Opeth

no i want to watch replay.. maybe gms are dumb banning a player for hacking when he is actually legit, or declining a report against unlegit.
u're idiot zexi, you suggest that to prevent people from seeing your stupid responds on hacking threads

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This

I just wanted to make reports private like every other game, to prevent players of knowing how we catch unlegits as it will just compromise our investigation process, resulting in people trying to figure out how they caught so they can prevent getting caught again in the future if they manage to cheat, and because it also causes a lot of flame wars and drama.

Or perhaps a private section where we can move all the completed third party programs reports and let the other branches of reports public.

;_;

or stop whining and let us throw virtual rotten tomatoes at hackers..

Agreed!

Like seriously -.-"

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Originally Posted by Zéxi

I just wanted to make reports private like every other game, to prevent players of knowing how we catch unlegits as it will just compromise our investigation process, resulting in people trying to figure out how they caught so they can prevent getting caught again in the future if they manage to cheat, and because it also causes a lot of flame wars and drama.

Or perhaps a private section where we can move all the completed third party programs reports and let the other branches of reports public.

;_;

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The third party programmes which have players banned have been around for years, that being said anyone with common sense know how to appear legit whilst in fact playing unlegit it's just a matter of that 'accidents' happens or they get so involved in playing they 'forget' that someone maybe recording.

When I talk about accidents I mean for example;

Shotbot - Random unexpected shots which ultimately can't really be avoided.

Hitbox - Hitting a player around a corner or above a box.

When I talk about forgetting I mean for example;

Shotbot - Start crosshair swinging rather than actually trying to aim.

Hitbox - Forgetting that a players ping can play a massive part when spotting therefore having it turnt to high and appear to be hitting someone of let's says 20ping 2 bodies away.


Anyways when I was a GM I liked the fact users could see my responses to any type of report, especially hacking ones as it shown if you ultimately had the ability to spot which is a big key reason why you'd be a GM, frankly if your unable to spot the simplest of things which makes someone unlegit then I would question that users position on the team. If one is worried about the drama then deal with having the community trash talking your decision it's only ever really friends of X person who's been banned, frankly I'd just say " I'm the GM, you are not, if you have an issue with my decision then have the user make an appeal requesting other GMs to look over the report"

Gunz has a cancerous community in terms of ego and shit talking, but that's the Internet and with that being said it's a game don't let it bother you.






But what do I know I'm just a simple VIP ex corrupt GM

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Originally Posted by Tetra

Just how u replied to someone reporting you when you were on your alt hitboxing......xfoknd

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Show me where I determined report on myself? Because it never happend, I was reported with a group of players were the first responding GM said himself I sucked, but eh Tetra you're pretty clued up on hacks I mean you seem to get banned, unbanned quite allot, question is are you legit but we know that answer.

Making the completed reports section private will cause some problems though.
When someone receives a warning or ban, they will not be able to view the thread since only the thread creator and the moderators of the section can view the thread.

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Originally Posted by Notorious

The third party programmes which have players banned have been around for years, that being said anyone with common sense know how to appear legit whilst in fact playing unlegit it's just a matter of that 'accidents' happens or they get so involved in playing they 'forget' that someone maybe recording.

When I talk about accidents I mean for example;

Shotbot - Random unexpected shots which ultimately can't really be avoided.

Hitbox - Hitting a player around a corner or above a box.

When I talk about forgetting I mean for example;

Shotbot - Start crosshair swinging rather than actually trying to aim.

Hitbox - Forgetting that a players ping can play a massive part when spotting therefore having it turnt to high and appear to be hitting someone of let's says 20ping 2 bodies away.


Anyways when I was a GM I liked the fact users could see my responses to any type of report, especially hacking ones as it shown if you ultimately had the ability to spot which is a big key reason why you'd be a GM, frankly if your unable to spot the simplest of things which makes someone unlegit then I would question that users position on the team. If one is worried about the drama then deal with having the community trash talking your decision it's only ever really friends of X person who's been banned, frankly I'd just say " I'm the GM, you are not, if you have an issue with my decision then have the user make an appeal requesting other GMs to look over the report"

Gunz has a cancerous community in terms of ego and shit talking, but that's the Internet and with that being said it's a game don't let it bother you.






But what do I know I'm just a simple VIP ex corrupt GM

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your right. What do you know lol maybe if you were still a gm you'd be correct but what could you possibly have done to get fired from your position xD.

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Originally Posted by MrCorpse

your right. What do you know lol maybe if you were still a gm you'd be correct but what could you possibly have done to get fired from your position xD.

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Opposite to what happened to you.

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Originally Posted by Dave

Making the completed reports section private will cause some problems though.
When someone receives a warning or ban, they will not be able to view the thread since only the thread creator and the moderators of the section can view the thread.

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As I said '-', we could just provide them with the evidence they were banned/warned/muted for, also we could perhaps directly link the evidence to their accounts instead of the whole thread.

"Flaming: *link*" for example.

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Originally Posted by Dave

Making the completed reports section private will cause some problems though.
When someone receives a warning or ban, they will not be able to view the thread since only the thread creator and the moderators of the section can view the thread.

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true but how come we cant thank the reports '-'? i bet most of us would thank that person for reporting em

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Originally Posted by Zéxi

I just wanted to make reports private like every other game, to prevent players of knowing how we catch unlegits

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This never happens, Game Moderators break DOWN what they see in regards to replays, Game Moderators are not the ones to "catch" unlegits, the people who report them are. It's good for players to be able to see third party program reports especially because they learn how to catch other hackers. Making it private will just cause more drama, and if you can't handle that as a Game Moderator let alone as a PLAYER, then you aren't fit for the ego or the game.

I realy think its need to still public.

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Originally Posted by Zachary

This never happens, Game Moderators break DOWN what they see in regards to replays, Game Moderators are not the ones to "catch" unlegits, the people who report them are. It's good for players to be able to see third party program reports especially because they learn how to catch other hackers. Making it private will just cause more drama, and if you can't handle that as a Game Moderator let alone as a PLAYER, then you aren't fit for the ego or the game.

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Zach brought that real talk

no pls
its fun to see dem brs getting warned

Im confused... isn't the capability to handle all the drama that comes with it, one of the requirements when u made ur application for GM? Didn't everyone wrote something like "Able to adapt and handle all kinds of situation" or idk... go read what u typed for ur application...

Freestylersworld is a community.
In a community you cant send people to jail and tell nobody what for.
Thats how simple it is really.

It's fine how it is right now.
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