I have never seen these gms in cw, not even once. how do they know who is hacking or not? they dont have any
experience so they arent able to tell if someone is hacking or not. it's like giving rights to a fat guy who never lifted a
bar in the gym letting decide who is on dope based on information he found on the internet. upvote for new ban system or new gm who is actively involved in cw
Because reports arent solely locked to only CW. Which has no engine or gameplay difference from regular players
true i think bunny should handle these reports
and this is the exact reason you gms shouldnt be in the report section at all. there is a MASSIVE difference between regular players and cw playersQuote:
Originally Posted by Jordan
There isnt, If you can provide a detailed explanation as to whats different ill retract my statement. But other than Movement based tech theirs not much of a difference. Engines the same, Lobbies are the same, Players just play different. But have no actual impact to the game itselfQuote:
Originally Posted by AtrephR
Regular players dont have any game knowledge, so their ESP its obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan
pro players already have a lot of game knowledge, so its hard to know if their esping or not because a player wtih good
game knowledge and soundplay doesnt use his esp 24/7. If i was esping i would run random places on purpose so
you guys would think if i had ESP, i wouldnt of run up on that or miss the target.
Regular players only SHOOT with their SB.
Pro players shoot themselfs but let the SB work like 20-30% of their shots. THIS is why they miss sometimes, and you guys
automaticly think their not sbing, because their missing.
regular players have their hitbox 24/7 on the same level / power.
pro players toggle on and off based on the distance of the target.
and there are 10000 x ways to fool you guys but how would you know, your not a cw player
All those things you just described can proven be in regular players. Try again.
im not gonna waste my time if you didnt even take the time to read and listen. its obvious you guys have no idea whatQuote:
Originally Posted by Jordan
you are doing. that was probably the dumbest reply ive seen in years.
Just be honest, you guys NEED someone with cw experience in your team.
you can act like you the best spotters in the world, but trust me, ive been involved in the high elo / cw for the past 5-10 years,
and ive never seen people get away with hacks sooooo easly as now. It was easy to get away with it in 2018 but now its harder
to get your **** sucked than get banned on FG with hacks.
Well going based off what you said. "you guys would think if i had ESP, i wouldnt of run up on that or miss the target." If a pro player has better game knowledge why would he fake going a direction if hes a Pro player he should know where to go, Pro players also use Sound play also. You say Regular players have no game knowledge and esp, the guy literally going no where makes it laughable theyd look more suspicious doing that than going the direction of everyone else if they can hear and or see on the radar a direction.
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Were not acting like the best spotters in the world you guys are lol?
There is a difference between going nowhere and not following up on your ESP on purpose ( i see this happen A LOT in clanwar atm )Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan
why is it so hard to admit you guys made mistakes?
everytime someone complains about reports not being done correctly, all you guys do is claim you have the best experience blablabla and there are 1000 accounts banned everyday.
it takes balls to take responsiblity and to say you ****ed up, but thats the only way you will start to grow.
Well When we mess up we will let you know. Till then idk what you want. We have Anti Cheats that stop Injectors, We have OC/UC detectors, We have 3rd Party Software Detectors, **** we have Glasswire Detection and yet yall act like when we watch the Replays we aint hoping for something good, Yall Post saying this is the most definitive Report and theyre clearly hacking then show us nothing that can even be remotely close to anything cheating. Then when we Dispute the Claims yall never take lightly to it, Why do we have to admit were wrong. Cant be on yall huh? you guys want these hackers to be there it seems, but when nothing is popping on our end via logs and watching replays shows very little theirs not much to be based on. We watch reports collectively and Judge them Accordingly. At times we Request help from the Owner, Who understands the game on a development standpoint and has the best overall judgement.
your anti-hack / programs are a joke. esp, hb en sb getting sold right now for 50,-. your statement about watching reports collectivelyQuote:
Originally Posted by Jordan
and judging them accordingly says nothing about it being true or not, it just states the general opinion of 5 players who never
cwed in their life together. No disrespect to dave before i get banned, but he is NOT a cw player. just because he has coding
knowledge doesnt mean he knows anything about pro players who hack. and you say we cant prove anything, thats a lie. everytime we do proof something you come up with ''that was random, if he would SB he wouldnt of done that in round 2'' bullshit everytime. ever heard about TOGGLING? and we will forgive you all for letting this happen for so long, except for you, because your handling reports like a asshole
If Me challenging the opposition to make it not biased makes me the asshole than so be it. Thats what were here for. We make decisions weather easy or hard. Never both parties are ever satisfied with whats said. You have McSic and Dave Confused also, And Im 100% Certain JPs got more knowledge on the game than anyone.
its not about challenging the opposition. its about you coming to a conclusion once and from that moment on defending itQuote:
Originally Posted by Jordan
like its your last bigmac, no mather WHAT kind of evidence gets thrown in, and you do it like a asshole. and Mcsic and Dave
cant have any knowledge on hacks on pro players, because THEY DONT CW. its as simple as that. just as the guy who created
the car has way less knowledge about whos cheating in a car race than somebody who ACTUALLY does car races. simple as that.
you just dont listen. proof is not once have you stated you guys might be at fault and might need somebody to help you out. not even
MIGHT, or we will DISCUSS it. the only thing you have done here is what you do in every report, and that is defending the conclusion you have made in your head. this right here proofs you care more about defending your ego than actually improving the server.
"its about you coming to a conclusion once and from that moment on defending it" Something like what yall do Right?
My one time being an asshole was to Jinsakai about the Sound Play And the fact they claimed ESP but no indicators would show ESP. ESP is provable without being a pro player.
Yeah the guy who created the Anti Cheat and Anti Lead and Anti Injectors and Detection has no idea what hacking is youre 1000% right.
I would rather risk my time being a GM Defending someone to the end for not being a cheater based on what i can see what other gms can see and what the Owners will see than ban someone because they got they feelings hurt from losing in a video game.
Id rather watch 1000 replays of the guy "cheating" till it was 100% without a doubt proven, Its got nothing to do with ego or anything cause i really dont care how yall view me or feel about me. Im doing this for free im not making money or anything like that. Ive been playing this game since 05 ive generally grasped this game at its prime, I dont see why yall think just because someone doesnt CW doesnt mean they dont understand the concept of whats going on. Ive understood games on Pro levels in numerous games and this one has a replay system where you can actually slow stuff down and look and analyze the situations much like a pro would but in real time.
done talking to you, your sarcasm about ''someone who created the game blablabla '' is childish and dumb. shows you didnt actually read what i said, confirms what i already said here, that you dont listen to listen, but listen to respond, and what level of maturity you are, and im not gonna waste any more time on you. if you do have any mental problems, i wish you the best of luck.
Typical ignore everything else that was said. Thats Childish
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Bros the biggest hypocrite and doesnt know it
good luck with everythingQuote:
Originally Posted by Jordan
I literally Addressed everything and you blatantly ignore it all.
if you scroll back and go back to page 1-2 i already answered your statements.Quote:
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i already told you, your not reading to understand, but reading to respond
Your whole argument is that you believe CW players cant be detected if theyre hacking unless its another CW player. Thats what it really boils down too.
no. my argument is that its difficult to spot hacks on a pro player, but almost IMPOSSIBLE to do by someone who has no cwQuote:
Originally Posted by Jordan
experience
hahahaha
having a mental breakdown? i think this has been to much for your brain and you need to rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan
good luck with everything and i truly wish you the best if you have any mental disorder.
Lol thats the only thing you can resort to bud.
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Argument is flawed but good luck!
You were being an asshole to a few players as well, by skipping their provided replays, just FYI. The replays were more than 5-6 min long, yet it took you a minute or two to say ''seeing nothing here'', even if you weren't you have to keep in mind that there exists something such as ''toggling''.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan
A game moderator who skips through submitted footage and dismisses evidence without thorough review raises questions about their dedication to maintaining fair gameplay, their competence in identifying cheating, and their commitment to ensuring an enjoyable experience for all players.
Aaa unlegits don't talk, shut up.
See now youre saying stuff you dont even know about cause i watched through every Replay, Downloaded Every Replay watched them to the end, Also if you clicked on the ones where i said nothing there those clips in specific were 30seconds to 2 minutes and 30 seconds. so whos actually watching replays.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinsakai
If lying is what will make u sleep at night, go for itQuote:
Originally Posted by Jordan
Lol upload somewhere else so the evidence doesnt disappear.
This thread is funny, you say that the reason people are "hacking" is because we don't have competitive players in our team, I haven't seen your ass applying or anyone else competitive lately, what is your solution for that? Do we need to let players deal with reports now? If that was the case, you and your cw buddies would ban dozens of users just because you cannot accept a loss.
When someone like you encounters another user who is significantly better than you, it's somewhat difficult for you to comprehend how they achieve such high levels of skill, as if there aren't players who play this game for over a decade. Instead of thinking about someone who did a lot of practice, experience, or simply have a 'talent', you jump to the conclusion that he must be cheating.
Another reason is 'Gunz ego/frustration'; Losing repeatedly to someone in cw or having a few bad games and experiencing a lack of success can be frustrating which is why you're immediately accuse someone of hacking and that serves as a defence to protect your ego. Without even realising what you're doing, you're basically attributing your losses to cheating rather than your own skills. I'm not trying to say that you're bad at this game, but you must accept that there's a possibility of someone being better than you without cheats/hacks.
Or maybe you have encountered actual cheaters or hackers in the past, like every other player did, and now you're having a sense of suspicion and scepticism.
To summarise everything that was said above and in the other thread that was created a few days ago: We have a great, WORKING, anti hack and there are users who get banned almost on a daily basis, just because we're not announcing every ban does not mean that it's not happening. How about you provide me real evidence of someone actually selling hacks or even better, get me the file or get someone who bought the file and maybe we can work with that, just because you're positive that someone else is hacking, does not mean that it's true. Hence you have the option to report someone and the GMs, together with the admins if it's needed, can review the evidence and take an action accordingly.
There's nothing else to say and there's no reason to keep this pointless drama so I'm closing this thread.