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remove stunnades or nerf the blast radius, theyre the least skillful weapons in the game and it ruins literally every tdm room there is
and dont tell me just use anti explosives tag cuz no one makes those rooms and im not creating a new room everytime i start up gunz. its annoying as hell and no one likes to play against it
least skillful weapons in the game but i never stun someone with it feelsbadman
agreed
I disagree, stuns are amazing, yes its frustrating when u get killed by them but that part of the game.
I agree nerf or delete the stuns from the game. its ruining every tdm in the server even tho theres like 2 rooms of tdm tho
Isn't there a tag to disable such weapon? If there isn't there should be a tag created
u cant read?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pingping
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ure not gonna remove them sure i get it, but atleast decrease the blast radius cuz its probably justr as big as the dmg radius of a rocket/nade but then it stuns instead of doing less dmg which just means its annoying as ****
As i posted in a similar discussion, I believe the most annoying part is that they lack counterplayability, which can be easily given by making their existence projected (a line of very visible smoke in their trail, for example)
Just dodge the nades. Easy as that.
yea just dodge it dude xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDQuote:
Originally Posted by Pingping
Positioning is key
Getting stunned in Garden whilst being ganged from every possible direction and getting called the n-word when u go down gets old really fast, so +1 for this suggestion.
honestly stun nades are really skillful, if i didn't learn how to use shotguns i would prolly learn how to play with the stun nades because they require high mechanics and are superior. i believe we should instead nerf shotguns so we can all play with stun nades instead
Yeah I agree, I think the radius is too big right now too, sometimes it feels like you shouldn't even get stunned, and often times you get stunned standing behind a wall (no problem with that, but if you're a meter away it just feels really unlucky more than someone reading your position).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattie
An alternative solution would be to make them work like mines, where the player gets flipped and can recover via jumping, but then it's not really a stun...
Honestly the fact a weapon like this even exists goes beyond my understanding.
It'd be far better if people who used rifles/revs/pistols actually relied on good aim instead of trying to land a stun which 90% time leads to a kill.
In my opinion, stun launcher should go back to stunning teammates as well, the last ghost-buff it got where it won't stun ur teammates made it much easier to use and abuse.
If this will happen, you will see much fewer players using it as well.
Finally someone with a decent argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganggbangg
I agree as well, stuns are far from unskilled. Not only do they not follow anti lead, but you have to think ahead of where your enemy will be moving towards. So not only do you have to outthink your enemy, but you also have to lead ontop of it.
Unlike with shotguns it's just "i see enemy i click left mouse button". Sure it's annoying to be stunned but you're probably playing sluggishly in order to be stunned.
However I do have to admit I have seen a rise in usage of the weapon lately. Usually it was just Dranx me and a few others. But almost every room has one in it. I love it! Double shotguns is such an old playstyle and lacks creativity. Try switching up your playstyle before bashing on a weapon that you have no experience or knowledge of its use.
Don't say a gun is over powered if you haven't ever picked one up to see how to use it. Not everyone can just equip a stun launcher and go to town with it. There's tactics to using them, hitting the right angles, knowing how the bounce works, etc.
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I agree with you. Since they removed the team stun there has been a huge increase in usage. However before the update people constantly got kicked for "stunning their team" when they were never intentionally stunning them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny
ure as dumb as a rock if u think using double shotgun takes less skill than hoping ur stunnade will hit once and then empty ur rifle ammo especially if its a map like garden where ppl will just camp underground. how is that even remotely fun to play against? you have to be trolling with this comment lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Desecration
I'd say maybe using a normal grenade is a skill but a stun launcher that stops you from moving from almost anywhere and getting killed by a rifle when you can't move isn't really a skill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Desecration
"i see enemy i click left mouse button" - that's what you do when you get your enemy stunned. you don't even need to try to aim
I like that the meta has changed in the tdm rooms. If you wanna play competitive tdm's, make a SGO rotation room or go CW. If you wanna **** around or warmup, join the big ass garden tdm room and deal with people stunning you. I personally like how you can switch between competitive tdm's or duels, into a game with stuns, snipers, sprays. GunZ is more than just shotgun players. Nonetheless i sometimes get frustrated as **** after i get stunned and rifled, but it do be like that sometimes. It's something different. don't mindlessly chasee people, think about where they will stun you. If they don't hit their stun on you, they only have 1 weapon to deal with you, whilst you have 2.
Sure you have to aim with shotguns. But you don't have to lead with them. Shotguns also aren't projectiles so there's no need to think ahead. Like I said, if you haven't used the stun launcher then there's no need to argue something you know nothing about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattie
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Exactly! There's SGO and EX for a reason. GunZ was never intended to be played with only double shotguns in the first place lol. You can tell the players that understand how the stuns work versus the ones who are clueless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan pls
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They're both nades so how does one take skill but the other doesn't?????:? The skill is being able to land the stun on your enemy. Whatever happens afterwards is the enemies fault for not dodging your stun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eran
And stun isn't as easy as "clicking left mouse button". You guys who really have never used the gun really show in the comment section Kappa
normal grenade takes skill because as you said you need to think where to throw and all that but the stun just stuns u even if it doesn't touch you and another difference is that a grenade doesn't stop you from moving but the stun launcher does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Desecration
but yea I never really use that gun so idk..
and what I meant about "clicking left mouse button" that's what you do after you get your enemy stunned you just spray the shit out of your enemy with rifle without even letting your enemy move till it dies. It takes no skill to aim an opponent that cannot even move unless you use like 16,000 dpi and high sens shit idk
Understandable. However I think the stun is more of a reward for landing it. Yes it basically means you're dead, but that's the consequence of getting stunned. I do think it's a bit unfair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eran
Maybe we could have a damage reduction added to players that are stunned? Like a 10-25% damage reduction while stunned. That would make it a bit more fair for those that abuse the stun with a weapon that can basically "one shot" you while you're stunned (rifle/pistols/revs). I like to play a bit more fair lately and instead of using a gun that will guarantee me a kill if I stun someone I'll use snipers or shotguns. I'll admit it does get a bit boring to just spray your enemy down with a rifle/pistols when you stun them. Got to give them a chance ;)
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Originally Posted by Desecration
A 20% damage reduction seems like a good idea to make it a bit more fair. But I still think stuns aren't that op. If you know how to counter them you have a huge advantage versus the player with the stun launcher.
Possible 3000IQ quest meta as well?? Stun yourself when you're about to take damage.
dont think iframes that lock you in place are too useful in quests thoQuote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan pls
well u cant out macro stun guns e.e u just suck
hahaha funny guy!Quote:
Originally Posted by reformed
very nice suggestion. I agree with you Fattie
It's a little OP like I was at one base and some guy threw stun at his base and it got me. Wallahi.
NERF IT although I use it too
stun gun takes more skills than people with shotgun and rev together
especially with anti lead implemented. of course shotguns force you to "aim". but do not force you to lead. having anti lead i think has lead people to forget how "fun" leading was...Quote:
Originally Posted by reformed
this and i agree we should buff stun guns like where u add poison with the stungunQuote:
Originally Posted by Desecration
The stun launcher could give 0 damage and still be op :D
Reopened.
Just remove them. they just add more aids in the room. it promotes camping and spamming and that was the same reason the r and ia tags were removed. In every room there are multiple people spamming these stuns.
there is less chance of getting stunned in open places, I do not agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by donkiller
the two most played maps are mansion and garden. mansion is a death trap. and garden the whole underground section is a warzone so basicly 1 weapon makes half the map unplayable. seems fair.
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Originally Posted by donkiller
Completely agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by donkiller
if u do 5v5 or 8v8, one dude with those nade launchers can turn the entire game. It's a game changer in those tdm rooms.
There's no use in nerfing them at all, they'll still be used. The weren't in the game before, I'm all okay with people using them as nades, but not as a launcher as it's simply too OP.
some of the mansion rooms created with [ex] tags, also there is rotation tdm 10/15 rounds. There are many modes, I think ppl have to explore more with stun nades by trying in the quest, zombie mode etc..Quote:
Originally Posted by donkiller
Stun nades are less useful in cws / duel.
Stun nades should be nerfed by changing the radius of explode