revert this back

[B]Suggestion type: idk
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[B]Suggestion description: played like 50-60 clan wars last week.. can u guys if not revert, at least increase the coins received? I played for idk but minimum 300cwpoints last week, and all i get is 70 coins? like thats literally 3 lucky boxes, which is completely nothing? imagine putting in a weeks work just to get less than 3 days of afking in training rooms for 1.5 hours and playing for 1 hour only? might as well just play 3 hours 3 days in a row to get 3 lucky boxes AND A COSMETIC BOX. What im saying is that, a week's worth of time spent on this game is just giving us LESS than 3 days worth of prize like wtf? I suggest that u guys increase it from 20/25 whatever it is now, to at least 35, if not 50. The cw prizes are terrible

its 25 coins for every 100 points u earn, it used to be 50 for every 100
but I'm pretty sure that's not the only thing that was nerfed, I think points u get from each win was nerfed as well(?)
I was also playing a lot this week and only got around 150 coins for it (won over 50 cw's)
not only that, since it was nerfed it killed the glad cw scene, people just stopped playing because it wasn't worth their time I guess :/

my suggestion: buff the number of points u get each win / make it 40 coins to 100 points or something like that would be nice :)

I liked it when it was 100:50 too mainly because it gave me so many coins when I had like 1000+ points but at the same time it seems like too much. Maybe 100:30 or 100:35

I think there are enough ways/methods to get coins beside that

how about they can do this. for the first 100 points, they receive 50 coins. and then afterwards the coins prize is reduced to like 30-35. i agree that 1000cwpoint=500coins seems to much. but 1000cwpoints=250coins is far worse. and honestly speaking, if a person who invests so much time in a lets be honest.. dead game with 1000 cw points, they deserve the coins. Why? Firstly, 1000 cwpoints is very hard to achieve given the fact of how many people play this game. Not to mention, the percentage of players who play CLAN WARS, i can guarantee 70-80% of the players who play regularly are just ur typical TDMers or like afkers in lobby, or even event. Therefore, players who invest so much time in a certain area deserve something more than just 25 coins per 100cwpts.

idk i think u can get coins so easily i dont think it necessary

At first I didn't like it as well but honestly there are already a lot of existing ways to earn coins so I think it should stay that way.

bro... it doesnt make sense. imagine working a week for clan wars and u get a reward less than 3 days of activity points reward. EITHER decrease the activity reward then OR increase the clan war rewards. simple

Maybe 1 coin for 3 points instead of 4 will make more sense but idk

lol, so ur prob getting 7 boxes a week if ur cwing every day + 2 cosmetic boxes + coins from cw points.

this doesnt include potential weekly competition prizes.

your complaining about not getting more free stuff. when most people r just black market selling items.

he got 300 cw points thats not 1 week of cwing calm down more like a couple hours

From what I experience, I think it's quite evident that that there is a decrease in cw activity because of coin reduction.

Also people are missing the main point. With the time investment you make, you are better off questing and rebirthing than cwing for coins which isn't what you want to do when you want to invest in the skill level of players so that clan wars will be more active ---> Attracting more competitive players ---> Increasing player count.

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Originally Posted by Akimbo

From what I experience, I think it's quite evident that that there is a decrease in cw activity because of coin reduction.

Also people are missing the main point. With the time investment you make, you are better off questing and rebirthing than cwing for coins which isn't what you want to do when you want to invest in the skill level of players so that clan wars will be more active ---> Attracting more competitive players ---> Increasing player count.

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U can attract more competitive players by separating glad cws from normal cws

People literally got thousands of coins (each week) before, it's not going to be reverted back.

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Originally Posted by Dave

People literally got thousands of coins (each week) before, it's not going to be reverted back.

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I agree, that was way off. I got 1.2k coins 1 week and 1k more the week after, but I'm pretty sure back then the points system was broken as well, u got like 60 points for each 5's win which is not like that right now
I don't think it should be reverted completely but somethings gotta change in my opinion.

example :
^8Benny^H
Levels: 1
Kills: 208
Event Points: 0
Clan War Games Played: 23
Clan War Points: 248

I won 20 out of those 23 played, most of them were 5's as well.
before the changes, I would have around 600 clan war points by now

When getting free stuff is not enough.

the way i see it is that if you're spending that much time clan warring, you're already earning all the free stuff given to you throughout the week in terms of lucky/cosmetic boxes event points etc. just from being actively online on top of what you're already earning from cw. is that...not enough..?

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Originally Posted by beny054

I agree, that was way off. I got 1.2k coins 1 week and 1k more the week after, but I'm pretty sure back then the points system was broken as well, u got like 60 points for each 5's win which is not like that right now
I don't think it should be reverted completely but somethings gotta change in my opinion.

example :
^8Benny^H
Levels: 1
Kills: 208
Event Points: 0
Clan War Games Played: 23
Clan War Points: 248

I won 20 out of those 23 played, most of them were 5's as well.
before the changes, I would have around 600 clan war points by now

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bro even this guy collected 1.2k coins from 1 week.
when a quester make this much from cw in 1 week so obv it gonna get changed.

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Originally Posted by Sam

bro even this guy collected 1.2k coins from 1 week.
when a quester make this much from cw in 1 week so obv it gonna get changed.

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when a quester wins 20 out of 23 games of glad cw, you know theres no competition*

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Originally Posted by Sam

bro even this guy collected 1.2k coins from 1 week.
when a quester make this much from cw in 1 week so obv it gonna get changed.

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Originally Posted by Bunny

when a quester wins 20 out of 23 games of glad cw, you know theres no competition*

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LMFAO the disrespect :? , i earned it fairly playing some of the best gladders in the server trust me :)
why act as if u know me and how i play?
u 2 are welcome to glad CW me anytime, unless u gonna flex and say u only sg cw now ? ^^

all of that is completely of topic tho, understand that the system was bugged back then and from 2 cws only u got around 120 points = 60 coins lol.
at the end of the day the only reason i want them to change something is for more people to play, i don't care about coins.

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Originally Posted by beny054

LMFAO the disrespect :? , i earned it fairly playing some of the best gladders in the server trust me :)
why act as if u know me and how i play?
u 2 are welcome to glad CW me anytime, unless u gonna flex and say u only sg cw now ? ^^

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there are no good gladders playing glad cw in the server, so dont know who you were gladding against.
regardless, as multiple people said here, I'll take it 1 step further and say that i dont even think clan wars and activity points should exist together, people get so many coins and the server runs out of items to sell to people because everyone can buy everything. Either remove rewards from clan war, or remove activity points gain whilst playing clan wars.

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Originally Posted by Bunny

there are no good gladders playing glad cw in the server, so dont know who you were gladding against.
regardless, as multiple people said here, I'll take it 1 step further and say that i dont even think clan wars and activity points should exist together, people get so many coins and the server runs out of items to sell to people because everyone can buy everything. Either remove rewards from clan war, or remove activity points gain whilst playing clan wars.

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ur saying those stuff, but you don't even play the game so how can u know such things? unless ur lurking with a different account..
yea sure.. remove all rewards for clan war players, definitely will encourage players to keep cwing.

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Originally Posted by StephanM

When getting free stuff is not enough.

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Ikr lolermy , just bring back the 100$ prize for #1 clan kappaHD

tbh the activity point system is just encouraging people to just afk 3 hours before and/or after the reset daily so they get the 100c at the end of 10 days and also the bonus lucky boxes throughout the week. In reality players should actually play the game to earn rewards which could be done by something like increasing cw points and/or nerfing/removing the activity point system.

Not gonna lie I was probably part of the reason the cw points were nerfed because I got 3k coins in 2 weeks (400 from weekly comp/2600 from cw points) but in reality I spent 12 hours a day on fgunz asking people to cw and grinding so it wasn't exactly a "normal" thing for players to get thousands a week.

Its just sad the amount of times i see players go into a room and be like "oh i just need x amount of exp to get the activity points then i'm afking", like i'm pretty sure that wasn't the administrators intentions when adding the activity points system.


(note: i'm not complaining about free stuff just wanted to give some insight as someone playing 12ish hours a day rn, and i'm pretty sure it wasn't your vision to have people afking to get the free stuff)

yo u a bum if a quester makes more coins than u

lol when the quester can prolly beat everyone calling him a quester

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Originally Posted by beny054

ur saying those stuff, but you don't even play the game so how can u know such things? unless ur lurking with a different account..

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Doesnt take much brains to figure it out.

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Originally Posted by beny054

yea sure.. remove all rewards for clan war players, definitely will encourage players to keep cwing.

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Read my post again.

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Originally Posted by Bunny

Read my post again.

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Originally Posted by Bunny

there are no good gladders playing glad cw in the server, so dont know who you were gladding against.
regardless, as multiple people said here, I'll take it 1 step further and say that i dont even think clan wars and activity points should exist together, people get so many coins and the server runs out of items to sell to people because everyone can buy everything. Either remove rewards from clan war, or remove activity points gain whilst playing clan wars.

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No matter how many times you need to read, you said "remove rewards form clan war".

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Originally Posted by SaltAce

tbh the activity point system is just encouraging people to just afk 3 hours before and/or after the reset daily so they get the 100c at the end of 10 days and also the bonus lucky boxes throughout the week. In reality players should actually play the game to earn rewards which could be done by something like increasing cw points and/or nerfing/removing the activity point system.

Its just sad the amount of times i see players go into a room and be like "oh i just need x amount of exp to get the activity points then i'm afking", like i'm pretty sure that wasn't the administrators intentions when adding the activity points system.


(note: i'm not complaining about free stuff just wanted to give some insight as someone playing 12ish hours a day rn, and i'm pretty sure it wasn't your vision to have people afking to get the free stuff)

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I don't even get why you want they remove the activity points system. You are saying the problem is players being afk, then why instead of asking to remove it or nerf it ask a change? Instead of being afk at lobby you need to play any mode that gives expirience for 1 hour (and i'm saying 1 hour because if it's more than that it gonna be too much for many players).

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Originally Posted by LostX

No matter how many times you need to read, you said "remove rewards form clan war".

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then try comprehending the whole sentence maybe?

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Originally Posted by LostX

I don't even get why you want they remove the activity points system. You are saying the problem is players being afk, then why instead of asking to remove it or nerf it ask a change? Instead of being afk at lobby you need to play any mode that gives expirience for 1 hour (and i'm saying 1 hour because if it's more than that it gonna be too much for many players).

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Very simple- players are given way too much free stuff right now, without justification in the form of desirable items to acquire. A lot of people are/were sitting with thousands of coins on their account.

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Originally Posted by Bunny

then try comprehending the whole sentence maybe?

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The fact is that one of the options were the cw rewards, which means you gave into consideration that way.

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Originally Posted by Bunny

Very simple- players are given way too much free stuff right now, without justification in the form of desirable items to acquire. A lot of people are/were sitting with thousands of coins on their account.

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Can you tell me how many players play cw all the day while stream on twich daily in good quality, make 2 rbs per month, win weekly compt, win events and play/be afk for 3 hrs? I think you get the answer, if not let me tell you.

There are many ways, that's a fact, but they are more options than any other things. Some ppl just play 3 hrs daily for activity points, others play cw for get more coins or they just cw w/o playing/ being afk for 3 hrs, some just stream, and others focus on weekly and/or rb in a month. And i guess you've never tried lucky boxes for get an item (or cosmetic boxes), because these shits are famous on how you spend 2k, 3k or even 4k and still you havn't get any legendary item (or in the case of cosmetic boxes an especific item).

Those that grind coins af are few ppl which can play for 4, 5, 6 and even more hours in a day, do you think everyone can do this? If so then why i always saw players complaining about that cw isn't played so much? Or why i see few streamers? Or why i've seen posts/threads of players saying 3 hrs is too much for an activity point?

I guess you have a lot of time for get coins and you can get all ways for get coins, but that's you, not everyone.

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Originally Posted by LostX

The fact is that one of the options were the cw rewards, which means you gave into consideration that way.



Can you tell me how many players play cw all the day while stream on twich daily in good quality, make 2 rbs per month, win weekly compt, win events and play/be afk for 3 hrs? I think you get the answer, if not let me tell you.

There are many ways, that's a fact, but they are more options than any other things. Some ppl just play 3 hrs daily for activity points, others play cw for get more coins or they just cw w/o playing/ being afk for 3 hrs, some just stream, and others focus on weekly and/or rb in a month. And i guess you've never tried lucky boxes for get an item (or cosmetic boxes), because these shits are famous on how you spend 2k, 3k or even 4k and still you havn't get any legendary item (or in the case of cosmetic boxes an especific item).

Those that grind coins af are few ppl which can play for 4, 5, 6 and even more hours in a day, do you think everyone can do this? If so then why i always saw players complaining about that cw isn't played so much? Or why i see few streamers? Or why i've seen posts/threads of players saying 3 hrs is too much for an activity point?

I guess you have a lot of time for get coins and you can get all ways for get coins, but that's you, not everyone.

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By naming so many mechanics and (unjustifiably) excusing it with "not everyone has many hours to spend each day" you are proving my point. If i had to guess i would say more than 10,000 coins are given out to players every week through things you've mentioned and those you haven't. How many weeks would pass by before the active playerbase of 100-150 players consists of players that each have thousands of coins in their accounts? I don't care that some players spend 12 hours on this game. I look at overall coin gain for the playerbase and it should not be the way it is.

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Originally Posted by Bunny

I don't care that some players spend 12 hours on this game. I look at overall coin gain for the playerbase and it should not be the way it is.

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I think that's kinda dumb to say. If u take any other game in example such as League Of Legends since I know u play that, someone that plays for 1 hour or whatever is 10000% NOT going to get the same amount of Blue Essence/Capsules from leveling up/Boxes the same that someone that grinds for 12 hours would get. "it should not be this way", it really should be this way because time = money... (or coins in this case)

Example also works with MapleStory and basically any other game u have to play a lot of hours to get rewards for...

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Originally Posted by SaltAce

I think that's kinda dumb to say. If u take any other game in example such as League Of Legends since I know u play that, someone that plays for 1 hour or whatever is 10000% NOT going to get the same amount of Blue Essence/Capsules from leveling up/Boxes the same that someone that grinds for 12 hours would get. "it should not be this way", it really should be this way because time = money... (or coins in this case)

Example also works with MapleStory and basically any other game u have to play a lot of hours to get rewards for...

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Originally Posted by Bunny

I look at overall coin gain for the playerbase and it should not be the way it is.

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Originally Posted by Bunny

I look at overall coin gain for the playerbase and it should not be the way it is.

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Well I just don’t see the logic to look at it that way, since not all the players gain the exact same amount of coins each week, some end up with 200 coins or even more, and some with literally 0.
Each individual decided how much time he’s going to spend on this game and if someone ACTUALLY plays the game for over 3-4 hours so yea, he deserves “free stuff” as u call it.
And let’s not include the afkers who collect 100 coins every 10 days, which is a joke imo.

End of the day changes are needed, it came to the point where I need to split my clan and cw each other because no one else wants to 😂

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Originally Posted by beny054

LMFAO the disrespect :? , i earned it fairly playing some of the best gladders in the server trust me :)
why act as if u know me and how i play?
u 2 are welcome to glad CW me anytime, unless u gonna flex and say u only sg cw now ? ^^

all of that is completely of topic tho, understand that the system was bugged back then and from 2 cws only u got around 120 points = 60 coins lol.
at the end of the day the only reason i want them to change something is for more people to play, i don't care about coins.

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This guy is hyped because he is one of the best glad players in a server contain 20-25 active glad players 0.0
ok bro ill let this slide i wont end ur gunz career rn

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Originally Posted by Sam

This guy is hyped because he is one of the best glad players in a server contain 20-25 active glad players 0.0
ok bro ill let this slide i wont end ur gunz career rn

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First of all, I'll be honest I have no clue who u are, and why u keep trying to provoke me.
I definitely don't consider myself "one of the best glad players", I just enjoy playing glad that's it, server also contains much more than 25 active glad players, most of them just don't glad cw.
but again, ur sliding of topic, if u have nothing to say regarding the suggestion that was submitted, why do u comment on this post?

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Originally Posted by Dave

People literally got thousands of coins (each week) before, it's not going to be reverted back.

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I think this thread has been answered guys. No need to argue.

Unpopular opinion: How about donating for coins?

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Originally Posted by McSic

Unpopular opinion: How about donating for coins?

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I’m all for supporting the server and donating, but that has nothing to do with this post.
Let’s hear what u think about it, should players who play for like 20 minutes and afk for the rest 2 and a half hours get almost the same reward as the people who actually play the game for hours and hours?
I think something should be changed to motivate people to cw.

I want to mention that the only thing I want from all of this is more people to cw with, nothing else.
If u say nothing will be changed that’s fine, I tried.

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Originally Posted by beny054

I’m all for supporting the server and donating, but that has nothing to do with this post.
Let’s hear what u think about it, should players who play for like 20 minutes and afk for the rest 2 and a half hours get almost the same reward as the people who actually play the game for hours and hours?
I think something should be changed to motivate people to cw.

I want to mention that the only thing I want from all of this is more people to cw with, nothing else.
If u say nothing will be changed that’s fine, I tried.

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Brother you already won 1.2k coins in 1 week why are you complaining?!
this idea is so bad , there barely cw in the server and winning 1.2k coins in 1 week is abuse.. just by playing 20-30 games .. you can get coins from VIP / activity and LOT OF OTHER ACTIVIES going on why are you complaining?
well maybe i know why
https://i.gyazo.com/eeb8daa8004f59eb...0227f809aa.png

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Originally Posted by Sam

Brother you already won 1.2k coins in 1 week why are you complaining?!
this idea is so bad , there barely cw in the server and winning 1.2k coins in 1 week is abuse.. just by playing 20-30 games .. you can get coins from VIP / activity and LOT OF OTHER ACTIVIES going on why are you complaining?
well maybe i know why
https://i.gyazo.com/eeb8daa8004f59eb...0227f809aa.png

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It’s funny how u just shot things into the air with 0 knowledge about what u say.
Where did u see me complaining about coins?
“Win 1.2k coins just by playing 20-30 games”, that is so wrong tho, the week I earned that much I played over 150 cw’s what are u on about?
Other activities and ways to get coins has nothing to do with the cw system.
And hmm what about that picture? I don’t go around ask people to thank my comments nor I care about that.

Get it inside ur head, the ONLY thing I want is more people to cw against.

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Originally Posted by beny054

It’s funny how u just shot things into the air with 0 knowledge about what u say.
Where did u see me complaining about coins?
“Win 1.2k coins just by playing 20-30 games”, that is so wrong tho, the week I earned that much I played over 150 cw’s what are u on about?
Other activities and ways to get coins has nothing to do with the cw system.
And hmm what about that picture? I don’t go around ask people to thank my comments nor I care about that.

Get it inside ur head, the ONLY thing I want is more people to cw against.

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the only people you will attract to cw by giving more coins are actual noobs that are just gonna play vs eachother

i understand u are trying to get more people to cw, this just aint the correct way to do it

it looks like cw prizes are a bit underwhelming and things like activity points give more rewards, but you neglect the fact u get cw coins on top of the other rewards

the coins are getting a bit useless right now anyway (for me so i might be biased), everytime i get coins i just give them away since i cant use it for anything useful anymore anyway

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Originally Posted by Ganggbangg

the only people you will attract to cw by giving more coins are actual noobs that are just gonna play vs eachother

i understand u are trying to get more people to cw, this just aint the correct way to do it

it looks like cw prizes are a bit underwhelming and things like activity points give more rewards, but you neglect the fact u get cw coins on top of the other rewards

the coins are getting a bit useless right now anyway (for me so i might be biased), everytime i get coins i just give them away since i cant use it for anything useful anymore anyway

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Some of the stuff u said are true for sure, even tho I know personally good players who left because of the changes that happend, but yea I guess giving away coins is not the best option therefore I said we need changes to cw in general, doesn’t have to be rewarding more coins.. for example I think that for glad cw’s they should add the GLAD tag so people won’t be able to flip, and also allow only rusty in cws to make it fair and not pay2win

There is a bug with the points you get from clan wars and Mcsic said it will be fixed next patch or if the server crash so problem solved

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Originally Posted by beny054

I’m all for supporting the server and donating, but that has nothing to do with this post.
Let’s hear what u think about it, should players who play for like 20 minutes and afk for the rest 2 and a half hours get almost the same reward as the people who actually play the game for hours and hours?

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Nobody said that. We have repeatedly told you that overall coin gain on the server, both from activity points and from clan war is way too large.

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Originally Posted by Eran

There is a bug with the points you get from clan wars and Mcsic said it will be fixed next patch or if the server crash so problem solved

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Patch 29.07.2020

Fixed a CW points bug where CWs would reward too little points. You should now get the correct amount of points when CWing (generally speaking: more players = more points)


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Originally Posted by Original Post

played like 50-60 clan wars last week.. can u guys if not revert, at least increase the coins received? I played for idk but minimum 300cwpoints last week, and all i get is 70 coins? like thats literally 3 lucky boxes, which is completely nothing? imagine putting in a weeks work just to get less than 3 days of afking in training rooms for 1.5 hours and playing for 1 hour only? might as well just play 3 hours 3 days in a row to get 3 lucky boxes AND A COSMETIC BOX. What im saying is that, a week's worth of time spent on this game is just giving us LESS than 3 days worth of prize like wtf? I suggest that u guys increase it from 20/25 whatever it is now, to at least 35, if not 50. The cw prizes are terrible

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You get donation coins on top of the activity rewards when you play enough clan wars, this is already an extra reward just for playing a bunch, and it was really easy for a bunch of players to rake in so many extra coins, so the nerf was justified in all honesty.