I want to bring new players

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I played Igunz and ijji religiously. this is by far my favorite game ever and I always felt like it was on the cusp of being mainstream but it never made it. I Hate thats the reality of it all. But there has got to be a way that we can get new players to download. does anyone have any ideas? I am going to rack my brain and figure some shit out. we dont need a crazy amount. but if we could have a few hundred people playing daily that would be amazing. id be willing to put money into advertisement. my own social medias have a small following that i could convince to try out a new game as well.

Where would you advertise FGunZ? All I can think about is Facebook and Instagram. We used to have a page on Facebook but I think it's not a thing anymore.
There were a few streamers who played and talked about FGunZ which is how we had a wave of new players and that's a nice thing.

I have been contemplating streaming. I stand out. I am pretty much 100% covered in tattoos including my face lol. I have a following on instagram, i dont know how many gamers are amongst them but Im going to start posting gameplay on my instagram as well as facebook. we need to get any loyal players to stream. every new player counts. im going to look into how much paid sponsorships on facebook are. with the right clip we can grab people attention, gunz is an amazing game we just have to show people it exists. fgunz should have a youtube channel for sure. id be glad to put together a youtube channel if you guys like that idea. maybe put some flyers in gamestops and random places like that. Like i said we dont have to have unrealistic goals. but if we could average 500 players in the lobby at any given time. give or take, wed be doing pretty good. I refuse to give up on this game. i made lifelong friendships on it and had so much fun playing it growing up, I want to make sure other kids have the opportunity to have the same experience

main advertisement platforms for gaming would be streaming twitch, youtube or Facebook which would be free outbound marketing...the other inbound/outbound marketing tactics would be to use paid ads through Facebook or youtube but that's solely up to you to use them... you might want to get permission from the devs as well because if you bring in commission through clicks or views the server needs a percentage of that amount since they are the owners.

wish you luck, but as a realist i wonder how you're going to keep the attention of new players on this game whether you're able to bring them in or not.

gunz isn't something you can just pick up easily and have fun on; you actually need to spend time learning how to play the game. it isn't like other games where i think you're still able to have fun despite having no idea what's going on. you're playing against people who've played this game for years with good aim and movement, and you're just starting out.

i suppose people could just spray and pray or "play for fun", but ultimately i think that the amount of times a new player is going to spend dead and out skilled by older players will make the experience a not so great one. which, isn't your fault obviously as it's just the way players have developed the game since it released. nonetheless, good luck!

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Originally Posted by SunRui

wish you luck, but as a realist i wonder how you're going to keep the attention of new players on this game whether you're able to bring them in or not.

gunz isn't something you can just pick up easily and have fun on; you actually need to spend time learning how to play the game. it isn't like other games where i think you're still able to have fun despite having no idea what's going on. you're playing against people who've played this game for years with good aim and movement, and you're just starting out.

i suppose people could just spray and pray or "play for fun", but ultimately i think that the amount of times a new player is going to spend dead and out skilled by older players will make the experience a not so great one. which, isn't your fault obviously as it's just the way players have developed the game since it released. nonetheless, good luck!

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I agree to an extent. If there arent enough new players then yes they will absolutly be run off by older skilled players. But if there are enough new players there will be games that mainly consist of people that are just spraying and tumbling. as long as there is a solid amount of og players that will have training rooms and spread knowledge then the new players that end up sticking around will be able to learn. newbies can have fun spraying and questing until they slowly learn new styles and pick things up over time. focus on the forums is a must as well. this is the central hub of it all. we need in depth guides to each style for new players. amongts alot of other things. I would for sure get permission from devs before I paid for any ads on facebook or another social media. im not looking to gain anything from this I wouldnt need commission. I just want to make sure this game doesnt die and fade away.

Biggest issue is the skill gap. New players don't stick around long because of it. I've found so far the best way to get them into it is via questing and then teaching them moves in private training matches here and there. Eventually you see that spark light and they start actually joining into TDMs and holding their own. It's just so hard though when they come directly into game and go into a TDM and I can't really blame them. I wouldn't play for long either If all that would happen is me getting killed constantly with no guidance to get any better. Best thing you could do is stream and then take that time to guide those new players in. At least taking them in quests teaches them the basics while also giving them progress. Just such a hard game to get into really. I agree with you 100% always been on the cusp of mainstream. If it were possible to make leveled lobbies or rooms that limit K/D's over a certain ratio that could be a starting point to get new players to play against other new people. Either way man, definetly stream!! Thats such a good source for getting new people in as well as showing them how to do things. I know their is a ton of people who wanna be able to enjoy this game for years to come.

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Originally Posted by Waex

Biggest issue is the skill gap. New players don't stick around long because of it. I've found so far the best way to get them into it is via questing and then teaching them moves in private training matches here and there. Eventually you see that spark light and they start actually joining into TDMs and holding their own. It's just so hard though when they come directly into game and go into a TDM and I can't really blame them. I wouldn't play for long either If all that would happen is me getting killed constantly with no guidance to get any better. Best thing you could do is stream and then take that time to guide those new players in. At least taking them in quests teaches them the basics while also giving them progress. Just such a hard game to get into really. I agree with you 100% always been on the cusp of mainstream. If it were possible to make leveled lobbies or rooms that limit K/D's over a certain ratio that could be a starting point to get new players to play against other new people. Either way man, definetly stream!! Thats such a good source for getting new people in as well as showing them how to do things. I know their is a ton of people who wanna be able to enjoy this game for years to come.

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I agree, I also think the skill gap is a big issue for users who recently downloaded the game. However, I always see people teaching new users in most of the training rooms and some of them even ask us questions in FGunZ Discord which is a good thing. Another huge plus is the training bot, Frooples is working on it and you can see everything here: https://freestylersworld.com/showthr...9-Training-bot

With the training bot, new users will be able to practice as much as they want without actually losing EXP/KD. I still don't know if there gonna be levels for the bot but that could be a good thing: Beginner, Advanced, Expert, etc.

I think implementing a feature that allows players to make rooms that only certain K/D ratios can enter. This will make sure that there can be rooms that noobs can play in together and not get ran over constantly by seasoned players.


Im going to check out the training bot, that sounds very useful and im interested to see what frooples is cooking up!

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Originally Posted by Fearlesss

I think implementing a feature that allows players to make rooms that only certain K/D ratios can enter. This will make sure that there can be rooms that noobs can play in together and not get ran over constantly by seasoned players.


Im going to check out the training bot, that sounds very useful and im interested to see what frooples is cooking up!

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What if we create a new account/character and our K/D isn't high? We'll be able to play against those "noobs".

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Originally Posted by Ommadawn

What if we create a new account/character and our K/D isn't high? We'll be able to play against those "noobs".

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I mean if you want to try that hard to play noobs youre just trash trying to increase you kd to "appear' good. But I suppose if its any character on an account with a substantial kd.

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or just make a room where kstyle isnt possible haha

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Originally Posted by Fearlesss

I mean if you want to try that hard to play noobs youre just trash trying to increase you kd to "appear' good. But I suppose if its any character on an account with a substantial kd.

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or just make a room where kstyle isnt possible haha

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unfortunately, gunz is a game that requires the community to make their own separations based on skill, and right now, that simply isnt possible with the number of players.

you cant change the base game in order to appeal to "noobs" because then they wont experience the game like other people from the get go.

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Originally Posted by Bunny

unfortunately, gunz is a game that requires the community to make their own separations based on skill, and right now, that simply isnt possible with the number of players.

you cant change the base game in order to appeal to "noobs" because then they wont experience the game like other people from the get go.

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the absolute only way that this pserver will be brought back to life is if we make it appeal to new players so I really do not understand where you are coming from?

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Originally Posted by Fearlesss

the absolute only way that this pserver will be brought back to life is if we make it appeal to new players so I really do not understand where you are coming from?

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the problem with this statement is the fact that this is a private server rather than an official game. the (active) gunz community is already split between different servers. there is really no way to make a game this old running on a pserver appeal to new players, they'll be mowed down by long time players. removing kstyle and creating "noob only" rooms already divides a dwindling playerbase and is a poorly crafted bandaid fix to a problem that in my eyes is unfixable.

if we're to open up advertising there should be actual rewards for new players that keep them interested in playing. rather than "daily rewards" every 3 hours, new accounts under a unique IP (or however you'd stop "abuse" of this system) for X amt of time should just receive rewards when they log in. it's hard to think a new player is going to spend 3 hours a day playing this game dying repeatedly or being bored out of their mind trying to quest.

i would also recommend EXP boosts to newer accounts for a week, and maybe a referral system (i swear there was one like 10 years ago on here lol), and anything else people could think of tbh. of course with that being said, it's entirely dependent on the fact that we're actually able to retain new players and keep them playing here longer than a day at most.

with that being said, i think it's unrealistic to think that a new player would spend their time getting mowed down on a private server with "pay2win" weapons & no understanding of the actual game/how it works rather than just playing something else that's easier to pick up, plays better and feels more rewarding.

i genuinely do wish you luck finding new players though!

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Originally Posted by Fearlesss

or just make a room where kstyle isnt possible haha

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I feel like at that point just tell em to play gunz 2 .-. But yeah even if this idea was implemented, I doubt new players would even make that room themselves. I mean they spent an hour practicing double butterfly, they don't want to waste that effort.

But yeah honestly the best we can do is just to engage with the new players we see joining rooms. Regardless of what cool new idea we have, based on what I've seen, the owners don't really have the inclination to do any high (or even medium) effort changes. Frooples is the only one doing the hard carry. But at its current state, it's good enough that if new players have the encouragement of a mentor and play with friendly dudes when they get on then I'm sure we can get some new comers to stay.

you guys are missing the point of the rooms without kstyle is just to get their feet in the pool. its so they can get the hang of the game mechanics on their own time and with other players that also dont know what the hell they are doing. It isnt "dividing our player base.... because they are new players to begin with. its just an idea to get them to stay and be able to play and lvl in rooms with people who also dont know k style. after they play for a while and lvl if they are a person who ends up liking the game theyll want to learn kstyle moves or d style moves.


all im seeing is a shit load of pessimism in these replies.

you guys can be happy with the average 80 players online and not believing that it will ever be more active because its a pserver. But I dont agree and I will continue to rack my brain for ideas to get new players on the server.

amamin you say just tell them to play gunz 2 then.... no. gunz 2 is trash you are missing the point.

I made this thread to discuss new ways to get players to play... not to have you guys be pessimistic and say " oh god no" "thatll never work" gunz is doomed" the energy im feeling in these posts is depressing and draining. you guys need to have a little more optimism. lol.



the end goal is new players that get invested in the game and then start trying to learn different styles. I dont want them to forever tumble and spray. But thats how we all started... or atleast I did.... and then over time i learned new moves and styles. I just want to give new players the opportunity to learn under the same circumstances.

Sure maybe we should be excited about bringing this game back to life, but everyone's already had this conversation multiple times. Lots of people have already tried many cool ideas and added so many new features to gunz. You're not the first one to start a brainstorming session. If we seem disheartened, it's because we've already seen how this plays out.

It also doesn't make sense what you're saying regarding no kstyle rooms. If a new player learns new moves and styles, explain to me how they're going to apply that in a room where kstyle is disabled? How would they even learn moves with kstyle disabled? It only works if new players try out the game in packs, but that's not the case. They join one by one, and if they make that room with kstyle disabled, no other new player is going to join because there is none. There's actually a different pserver that I know of which has a "noob" channel where kstyle is restricted. Unsurprisingly, nobody uses that channel. Questing is a much better way of letting them test the game, imo.


With all that said, we're all on the same team here so no need for you to lash out on us. I'm not trying to dampen your enthusiasm and I would love nothing more for you to prove me wrong. I would love it if you managed to come up with an idea, get it to be implemented, and a flock of new players come play this game and KEEP playing this game. I started playing in 2020 so I know what's it like to be new when everyone else already has had years (some even more than a decade) of experience, I understand the feeling more than you do. You know what kept me around? Learning kstyle and having mentors to teach me and encourage me.

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Originally Posted by Amamin

Sure maybe we should be excited about bringing this game back to life, but everyone's already had this conversation multiple times. Lots of people have already tried many cool ideas and added so many new features to gunz. You're not the first one to start a brainstorming session. If we seem disheartened, it's because we've already seen how this plays out.

It also doesn't make sense what you're saying regarding no kstyle rooms. If a new player learns new moves and styles, explain to me how they're going to apply that in a room where kstyle is disabled? How would they even learn moves with kstyle disabled? It only works if new players try out the game in packs, but that's not the case. They join one by one, and if they make that room with kstyle disabled, no other new player is going to join because there is none. There's actually a different pserver that I know of which has a "noob" channel where kstyle is restricted. Unsurprisingly, nobody uses that channel. Questing is a much better way of letting them test the game, imo.


With all that said, we're all on the same team here so no need for you to lash out on us. I'm not trying to dampen your enthusiasm and I would love nothing more for you to prove me wrong. I would love it if you managed to come up with an idea, get it to be implemented, and a flock of new players come play this game and KEEP playing this game. I started playing in 2020 so I know what's it like to be new when everyone else already has had years (some even more than a decade) of experience, I understand the feeling more than you do. You know what kept me around? Learning kstyle and having mentors to teach me and encourage me.

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Yea I get what youre saying in that when a new player would make a room with kstyle restricted that at this point in time... little to NO players would join the game simply because there isnt any new players. I am hoping I can come up with something that does indeed get new players to join in "flocks" so that there will actually be new players to join said rooms. I also agree that Questing is a great way for new players to practice movement and aim while having fun defeating bosses. in ijji i learned tbf by practicing it on page 41 quest npc's. But yeah we absolutly need to make sure that the OG players reach out to the new players and be friendly and be up for teaching new players different moves and tactics. Thats one thing I loved about this game when I was learning that you have a huge advantage to learning more quickly if you had a good mentor or teacher. It had a mr miyagi feel to it. wax on wax off. sorry for lashing out on you bro. I just really want to see this pserver grow and stay here forever. I started playing in 2006. the fact that this game still has me interested 15 years later when the original game is now dead and only exists on private servers speaks volumes on the "magic" that this game holds.

BRO LETS DO IT.

I've been talking to thomas, and dave about brining back clan tournaments with great prizes. i dont want to talk to much about it cause its just ideas but i will make a post about it and lets see how much support we can get...that can influence other Private gunz players "universal gunz" etc... It make seduce them ;) into wanting to play on Fgunz server instead. I rather play 100+ ping if that means a growing community. Love you guys, GUNZ FOREVER

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lets try and try and try papi, only way to success.

If you don't mind would you wanna come onto the Captain's discord server and have a brainstorm with me and a few clannies?

I hear tiktok is a decent platform to advertise/make videos. Honestly, we wont retain a new player base without going back to level restricted channels. 1-5, 6-15, 16-30, etc.

Also, remove EX and SGO tags. You want new players to play? Logging in and seeing nothing but EX and SGO rooms already starts to dissatisfy people. Quit putting restrictions on a restricted game already.