For GM of the rev tourney(JestRelax?)

Please explain your bullshit to everyone. You said you're reviewing the tourney final, coz there is controversy to have a rematch, only YOU have made it controversial. listening to someone who cant deal with a loss and sided with him. From what I have seen, I follow a lot of esports and competitive gameplay around various games, your knowledge of competitive gameplay is very low, if you wanted people to not strategize, do not make a tourney, simple, make it a fun 2v2 games event or something. no prizes or anything. the winners took control of an area(they had to get there, wonder how they managed to get there camping hmmmm), they took good fights, played it better in general. so please tell everyone how you come up with this dumb decision, everyone on the forums that have spoke about the final, apart from himself, all said there were nothing wrong with it, I rarely seen any camping, just bigger brains. Not people like KRAIser. They camped a spawn 1 round too, ship side. Also next time you want to make a tourney, please dont XD

Controlling a spawn although can be seen as smart play or playing it safe, it still falls under the general term of camping.

best joke 2k21

Robbery, this tourneys a joke

Imagine holding a spawn at mid is considered camping

so if you stay at the hp spawn fighting, its camping, you stay at any part of the map fighting, you're camping, camping is literally staying 1 spot, maybe the ammo spot near ship spawn, staying in that part just looking each side, THATS camping, or top stairs garden map, not moving around, taking control of an area, and fighting there is not camping. If you think they camped, you're braindead on competitive gameplay

no point giving this win to a bunch of kiddos who lost 11-6 anyway. paki getting desperate to get a tourny item and now he sad and cry to gms cuz he cant get it :S:S:S:S:S:S awwwwwww whos getting desperate now paki

Btw this whole tourny is weird anyway. I mean half time side switch??? And the amount of round is 30, but the first to 11 wins is the winner. So whoever has the good side basicly still has a huge advantage. carnagemacro had the good side where he can get to mid before the enemy even shows up. Just because he had a better side where he gets to mid immediately doesn't mean the enemy is camping. They even lost their mid fight and ran away. Are they supposed to chase with chickens without heads? Hell nah, its the most logic strat to stay mid and wait for the spawn. There has been alot more tournys with SHOTGUNS (CLOSE RANGE) where people "camped" more.

Do not understand this whole situation. Skilly and Tzunami won fair and square. They stomped the enemy 11-6. Camping spawns is ONLY possible if the enemy did not come out to meet them to the spawn point. Which means that the enemy did not budge from where they originally spawned in the map and waited for Skilly and Tzunami to come to them. This whole controversy is too one sided. If anything Kaiser and Harun were the ones camping and stalling the game. Again. Skilly and Tzunami won fair and square. Give them the win and stop listening to cry babies to beg for rematches. Also, you state that you cannot change rules mid tourney, but that's exactly what you did. Please review your own actions and give a fair outcome to the winners of the 2v2 Rev tournament Skilly and Tzunami which would be giving them their deserved tournament weapons of their choice. Thanks.

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i mean it basically said port, and now they altering the rules to give kaiser a chance? + they agreed to port aswell so whats the problem here

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rules are rules, yet u change the rules basically

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stupid ppl

We wanted town from the start btw, these guys offered us Port or Factory, we took port, gave them better side, and played them, what's the deal?

I literally watched the VOD and honestly i don't get this either lmfao, Both teams had their equal chances and one team was just better. Port is one of my favorite maps doesn't matter what side i used to be on I'd still shit on you. So why can't these kids do the same? You can literally take so many directions on that map it's insanely stupid that a bunch of newgens are crying cause they don't think outside of the box and make it easier to be a target for the other team.

This is lazy af.

The hosts of this tourney are basically saying u should give them the spawns otherwise its unfair. It is kaisers and haruns own fault for putting themselves in a disadvantageous situation in the first place.

i watched the VOD and idk what's wrong? they just won cause they were better.., why there's a rematch ?

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Originally Posted by CheeseOnion

Btw this whole tourny is weird anyway. I mean half time side switch??? And the amount of round is 30, but the first to 11 wins is the winner. So whoever has the good side basicly still has a huge advantage.

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I gotta agree, 30 rounds in total, spawns are only switched after 15 rounds, but you only need 11 rounds to win. That really is hilarious and makes no sense.

It should have been like the last tourny https://freestylersworld.com/showthread.php?120883: Spawn switch every round, 25 rounds, 13 rounds to win, no 'no camping' rule, instead a 'no stalling on purpose' rule (and I'll make sure the next tourny is gonna be that way again) - also there should be best of 3 for the finals like it was suggested earlier.

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Originally Posted by McSic

I gotta agree, 30 rounds in total, spawns are only switched after 15 rounds, but you only need 11 rounds to win. That really is hilarious and makes no sense.

It should have been like the last tourny https://freestylersworld.com/showthread.php?120883: Spawn switch every round, 25 rounds, 13 rounds to win, no 'no camping' rule, instead a 'no stalling on purpose' rule (and I'll make sure the next tourny is gonna be that way again) - also there should be best of 3 for the finals like it was suggested earlier.

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but that was all suggested after the results and tenax said rules are rules so honestly i still feel like tzunami shud have the win?

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Originally Posted by Overdrive

but that was all suggested after the results and tenax said rules are rules so honestly i still feel like tzunami shud have the win?

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You mean the suggestion for best of 3? I was speaking about the next tourny

Honestly this shouldnt even be an argument, just some inexperienced non-competetive players hosting the tourney and upon reviewing the match they made a mistake. Just review the match again, make the right decision and learn from your mistake. I don't get why this is still a thing and the decision to hold a rematch hasnt been reverted yet
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https://youtu.be/XDdDQQ8uLhY

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Originally Posted by McSic

You mean the suggestion for best of 3? I was speaking about the next tourny

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So what do u think about the decision of making a rematch of the current tourny finals?

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Originally Posted by CheeseOnion

So what do u think about the decision of making a rematch of the current tourny finals?

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If a team stays in one place for more than 1min is called camp, On the port map, there is no such open place in mid. players have no choice to play without hiding or a little bit of camp if both players camped in the side room(boat side) consider it as CAMP otherwise it is not, because the mid-camp/fight is long-ranged weapons(distance) war so it's fine.

They denied to play town and want to play port(port map is the easiest map for attackers also easy to dodge anything) consider this no-rematch for finals. It's my opinion and everyone can have their opinion no offense

FF should ON in the tournament.

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Originally Posted by Faky

If a team stays in one place for more than 1min is called camp, On the port map, there is no such open place in mid. players have no choice to play without hiding or a little bit of camp if both players camped in the side room(boat side) consider it as CAMP otherwise it is not, because the mid-camp/fight is long-ranged weapons(distance) war so it's fine.

They denied to play town and want to play port(port map is the easiest map for attackers also easy to dodge anything) consider this no-rematch for finals. It's my opinion and everyone can have their opinion no offense

FF should ON in the tournament.

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hp spawn has 5 differences entrances lol, how u can camp there, they could easily attack us

rewatched the vod to give you the benefit of the doubt, even though I watched it live.

round 1 - no camp, skilly even goes looking for them in a 1v2 situation
round 2 - holds hp spawn since its a 2v1 situation, no reason to go looking and get backstabbed
round 3 - tzu pushes up to help skilly in alley
round 4 - tzu straight up rushes like a dumb ass and gets a hold of hp spawn position. (you aint getting this position on RED side on port if you're camping, you basically pushed the enemies back).
round 5 - both teams pushed and met mid
round 6 - once blue pushed, skilly pushes back, holds for abit before going to look for opponent
round 7 - blue pushes, skilly pushes back
round 8 - red gets destroyed
round 9 - blue pushes mid, skilly pushes alley
round 10 - both teams fight mid, repeat of round 2
round 11 - back and forth fight in mid, tzu pushes up to hp spawn. clash mid, blue gets outaimed and destroyed
round 12 - tzu pushes mid
round 13 - blue pushes mid, skilly pushes alley
round 14 - blue backpeddles, red goes looking. long round but both teams were basically standing their ground till red goes looking
round 15 - skilly pushes, blue backpeddles to ap. red goes looking
round 16 - typical mid rev fight from boxes, skilly pushes mid, tzu goes looking for last guy
round 17 - blue tries yolo rush in last round cus blood is boiling at this point, fails and loses match. (red holds hp, blue holds ap, both side camping then?)
after tourny - kaiser shows the world why hes the biggest loser in gunz

Camping woud only apply in situations whereby if blue pushed, red backpeddled and stayed. But everytime blue pushed, red pushed back.
Red side on port is the shitty side, you cant push past alley unless you wanna get fked. And if you do push up to HP spawn and hold, it's not camping, you already pushed to get that advantage. They beat them fair and square even on the bad side.

Now it's your turn to give us a reasonable response. Not that "holding HP in port is camping" bullshit.

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Originally Posted by Tzunami best0

hp spawn has 5 differences entrances lol, how u can camp there, they could easily attack us

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That's what I said port map is the easiest map for attackers.