Obama broadens military campaign against 'Islamic State'

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US President Obama has vowed to target "Islamic State" militants "wherever they exist," including Syria.
Speaking on the eve of the anniversary of the September 11th attacks, Obama ruled out deploying combat troops.

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If you do not know what IS is do some research first before you debate on this.
I just want to hear what you think about this terrorist organisation called IS.


If we have any believers in the Islam, do not feel threatened or hated by my post, this is about the terrorists (them bad guys) and not the religion itself.

**** ISIS and **** everyone who supports them. I don't even classify them as humans OR animals.

While their beliefs are somewhat correct (trying to convince other religion to follow islam) they're are doing it in the worst and most disgusting way possible. This may be okay in the old days but now there are much easier and more humane ways to express your message.

Tl;dr ISIS are doing this with correct reasons but implementing it in the worst and gruesome way possible. I agree with what Obama and others are doing, just as long as the innocent civilians are safe and will continue their life with no issues.

ISIS, I think Obama is doing the right thing gonna organize air strikes, promising no troops will go to Syria, but it doesn't matter what he says the racist ass people fight everything he says no matter what it is because he's black, Bush could say the same stuff and the tea billies would be all for it, when someone hates on him and thinks Reagan was the best president ever is enough said for me, people don't know what they're talking about and agree with the dumb crap they hear their parents say. They will say anything to try and make the black guy look bad, "HE'S GONNA TAKE OUR GUNS AWAY!!!"...... He's for war but against guns LOL, I smell bs. Anyone who hates Obama but says they aren't racist is a dumbass in my book.

It's history repeating itself again. Doesn't this sound almost like the cruisades? Granted they didn't have the technology we have now, but I hope this gets fixed soon.

ISIS is yet another reason why I hate humans.

they are both bad (US and IS)

religion is bad for the world ok. wake up people

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Originally Posted by EpicKLF

While their beliefs are somewhat correct (trying to convince other religion to follow islam) they're are doing it in the worst and most disgusting way possible. This may be okay in the old days but now there are much easier and more humane ways to express your message.

Tl;dr ISIS are doing this with correct reasons but implementing it in the worst and gruesome way possible. I agree with what Obama and others are doing, just as long as the innocent civilians are safe and will continue their life with no issues.

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How can you say that lol. It's wrong when random people try to convince you to believe in a religion, any religion.

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Originally Posted by slugheady

How can you say that lol. It's wrong when random people try to convince you to believe in a religion, any religion.

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I, for one, can't stand religion. I like that it sometimes can instill good morals/values in people, but other than that I hate it. All bias aside though, I don't see the harm in trying to convince random people to follow a certain religion. That's one of the main purposes of any religion. HOW they go about convincing these people is the difference maker. There's a difference between someone knocking at your doorstep convincing you to "follow and spread the word of God," and the means ISIS uses to force their views into these people's minds.

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Originally Posted by Eddie

I, for one, can't stand religion. I like that it sometimes can instill good morals/values in people, but other than that I hate it. All bias aside though, I don't see the harm in trying to convince random people to follow a certain religion. That's one of the main purposes of any religion. HOW they go about convincing these people is the difference maker. There's a difference between someone knocking at your doorstep convincing you to "follow and spread the word of God," and the means ISIS uses to force their views into these people's minds.

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because the american government and IS have such good morals from their riligion both killing many innocent people. It is actually harmfull (in my opinion) when people go around and try to indoctrinate their acient fairy tales upon normal people. It keeps people from questioning authority wich is essential for new development. Its not only bad because IS uses violence but it will hold back progress of a civilization.

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Originally Posted by Vickachu

because the american government and IS have such good morals from their riligion both killing many innocent people. It is actually harmfull (in my opinion) when people go around and try to indoctrinate their acient fairy tales upon normal people. It keeps people from questioning authority wich is essential for new development. Its not only bad because IS uses violence but it will hold back progress of a civilization.

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Maybe you missed the part where I said "sometimes" lol... Obviously there are exceptions (ISIS in this case). I meant more the people who go to churches/mosques/synagogues etcetcetc and grow up learning to help others, to love and respect, things like that. Obviously the ENTIRE religion as a whole isn't going to make you that way, but they're just little things people can pick up from the religion and the passages they hear/read. Take me for example. I was raised Catholic and went to church every Sunday and listened to all the readings from the pastor. I picked up a lot of good lessons from the stories. But even though I'm now an atheist, and despite how difficult it is to believe anything in those passages really happened, that doesn't make the lesson any less true. And regardless of when I was a firm believer in Catholicism or am now strictly Atheist, I always questioned authority. Others do as well. Not everyone who follows a religion is that weak-minded and follows EVERY single aspect of the religion. Many people have their doubts/disagreements on certain parts to their religion. And that's good. It leaves them questioning, which as you said, is essential for new development.

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Originally Posted by Eddie

Maybe you missed the part where I said "sometimes" lol... Obviously there are exceptions (ISIS in this case). I meant more the people who go to churches/mosques/synagogues etcetcetc and grow up learning to help others, to love and respect, things like that. Obviously the ENTIRE religion as a whole isn't going to make you that way, but they're just little things people can pick up from the religion and the passages they hear/read. Take me for example. I was raised Catholic and went to church every Sunday and listened to all the readings from the pastor. I picked up a lot of good lessons from the stories. But even though I'm now an atheist, and despite how difficult it is to believe anything in those passages really happened, that doesn't make the lesson any less true. And regardless of when I was a firm believer in Catholicism or am now strictly Atheist, I always questioned authority. Others do as well. Not everyone who follows a religion is that weak-minded and follows EVERY single aspect of the religion. Many people have their doubts/disagreements on certain parts to their religion. And that's good. It leaves them questioning, which as you said, is essential for new development.

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people can learn to love and respect without religion just fine. there is also alot of fcked up shit in the bible about rape, slavery etc. no not everyone is weak minded but alot of them are. Its not a coincidence that in poor education areas (just like in the US and in the Middle East) you see alot of fundementalists. These religions were designed to keep people like this ignorant and hatefull towards people with other believes. because if they can get the majority of a population stupid and ignorant its easier for a government to control it.

The fact that Obama calls them ISIL and not ISIS for the Levant based on the destruction of Israel has given me doubts that he has the morality to lead America.

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Originally Posted by Eddie

I, for one, can't stand religion. I like that it sometimes can instill good morals/values in people, but other than that I hate it. All bias aside though, I don't see the harm in trying to convince random people to follow a certain religion. That's one of the main purposes of any religion. HOW they go about convincing these people is the difference maker. There's a difference between someone knocking at your doorstep convincing you to "follow and spread the word of God," and the means ISIS uses to force their views into these people's minds.

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That's far from true. We're living in the 20th century, not the 10th. I respect religion, as long as people can keep it to themselves. I don't mind any religion in that regard. I dislike the people who try to convince that their religion is a necessity in life, thats what I think is wrong with religion nowadays. Claiming that religion drives people to make other people believe is nonsense, it's something that might have been true a couple of hundred years ago.

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Originally Posted by slugheady

That's far from true. We're living in the 20th century, not the 10th. I respect religion, as long as people can keep it to themselves. I don't mind any religion in that regard. I dislike the people who try to convince that their religion is a necessity in life, thats what I think is wrong with religion nowadays. Claiming that religion drives people to make other people believe is nonsense, it's something that might have been true a couple of hundred years ago.

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isnt that just the problem with orginised religion in general? they try to get as much followers as possible. dont religious people force their believes on their children? just the fact that you have to teach a human being to believe and that it isnt part of our biology is just proof that these religions are BS.

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Originally Posted by Vickachu

isnt that just the problem with orginised religion in general? they try to get as much followers as possible. dont religious people force their believes on their children? just the fact that you have to teach a human being to believe and that it isnt part of our biology is just proof that these religions are BS.

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Majority of the religious people believe the way they want to. They might try to convince their friends, family or whatnot, but not just any random person. What people decide to teach their own children is their choice, there is nothing wrong with believing in something bigger than humanity. Religion comes close to norms and values of nonreligious people as well, and thats something we teach our children as well. My point with religion is that it's fine as long as people keep it to their selves, that doesn't mean they can't talk or argue about it, as long as random people don't approach me outside or ring my doorbell then I'm fine with it.

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Originally Posted by slugheady

How can you say that lol. It's wrong when random people try to convince you to believe in a religion, any religion.

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100% agree with this. I could understand if people want others to believe what they believe, that's fair enough. But forcing it is ****ing wrong.

What's the point in using force, because then people aren't believing it for themselves, they're believing through Fear.

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Originally Posted by slugheady

How can you say that lol. It's wrong when random people try to convince you to believe in a religion, any religion.

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What i meant by "Convince" is a different meaning than "force". Believe what you will but one common aspect in all religions is to spread its beliefs and most of it is not done with force/severing heads by any means. this is why i personally believe ISIL crossed the line on this one.

Btw, you guys arent talking much about ISIL, mostly about questioning and dissing religion in general from the looks of the more recent replies...

lol tbh i see this "ISIS" group nothing related to the religion in any way. They just made up some beliefs and facts of their's about a religion and said "yup that's what the religion tells us to do" when it's really just some bs they made up themselves. This ISIS group is just a terrorist group, they got this stupid ideology in their minds that's completely wrong in so many ways, nothing to do with Islam at all. They're representing a religion that doesn't support what they're doing and that doesn't include the rules they say are included in it.
People who support ISIS should just die, like how can you support a terrorist group, with their fake ideologies and inhumane actions of murder.

Let me spice this up a little.

Religion is a cancer to society. IS and all the support they get from islamic people all around the world (including my country) prove this, and it sickens me. Obviously I am not attacking all believers as there is a big range in severeness, but if in any way you think they have the correct intentions and beliefs you are a disgrace to humanity.

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Originally Posted by AnnaBoo

The fact that Obama calls them ISIL and not ISIS for the Levant based on the destruction of Israel has given me doubts that he has the morality to lead America.

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Where did you see him say that I heard him say ISIS, WAIT, the L in the Mnemonic instead of an S that's probably a Type-O is the difference between him being able to lead our nation or not? Or is there a little bit of underlying racism towards black people I smell?

I love that the US had their leader in prison before and just let him go. He was a P.O.W.

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Originally Posted by Larabeast™

Where did you see him say that I heard him say ISIS, WAIT, the L in the Mnemonic instead of an S that's probably a Type-O is the difference between him being able to lead our nation or not? Or is there a little bit of underlying racism towards black people I smell?

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She's not a racist... at all.

Anyhow, I self am not a fan of promoting fighting as a campaign but if this would make the world a better place in a few years, then I guess it has to be done..?

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Originally Posted by StephanM

She's not a racist... at all.

Anyhow, I self am not a fan of promoting fighting as a campaign but if this would make the world a better place in a few years, then I guess it has to be done..?

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I think the decision is a lot easier to make for all the people who haven't had to go through anything like this or aren't or ever going to live over there, there are going to be innocent people killed. I wonder what the people from that region think, what do they want to happen? I can't imagine being a little kid and having to hear explosion after explosion after explosion, how much damage is it doing to other peoples' mental health to go through something like this with only a chance of it causing the chaos to stop? I couldn't imagine being in a position to have to make the decisions that Obama has to make, or anyone in the head of the military for that matter, or how long they can even being racked with the extreme amount of stress of having to make decisions like this without it fracturing their psyche.

I would like to hope it will make a difference but there has been fighting going on over there for thousands of years they are fighting a quote "endless war" with each other so there's a possibility that it's not going to make anything change over a period of time, no matter how many people they kill, there will always be someone else raised up to hate, to continue on what others are trying to stop. It's a hard decision to make.

Obviously hope ISIS gets wiped out. **** forcing religion on people. Even if i was interested in their shitty religion i wouldn't want to be a part of anything they do after witnessing the half of it. pure hate.

at the same time.. I can't stand the western world (even though i'm fortunate enough to be born into it). All it is now days is just struggle for power, lies, schemes, greed. bullshit really.

Wouldn't mind the U.S getting a good spank, at the same time.. they sort of protect us (canada) so i'm mixed on it.

At the end of the day?

hail Putin

I kinda think our Country forces religion on people for the most part, act like you're evil if you're not a Christian, you're going to hell. God fearing hate mongers, you smile and wave at someone and they stare at you like you're evil, you say hi to the old homeless guy at the bus station and he's as nice as he could be. Unfriendly people piss me off, half of humanity has how to live and be happy ass backwards.

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Originally Posted by Larabeast™

Where did you see him say that I heard him say ISIS, WAIT, the L in the Mnemonic instead of an S that's probably a Type-O is the difference between him being able to lead our nation or not? Or is there a little bit of underlying racism towards black people I smell?

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How does that have anything to do with racism? LOL There are 4 different terms of the same group. ISIL is not a typo mistake. Instead of the S, the L concludes a georgraphical region consisting of Syria as well as Israel which regards with the Levant. Obama's administration has regarded this Islamic State as ISIL. I see it and hear it too many times. Many people probably favor Gaza over Israel and wouldn't care to see this, plain and simple, but I don't. Israel is our only Middle Eastern ally so regarding ISIL with Israel is demeaning to that country.