Flips Mode.

Hello, since flips rooms are very active (always 6+ players) a good mode to make that game more fun would be cool.
Make a new flips mode with imposed rules, here are some of them:
• Massive off.
• You can't deal any damage by melee weapons.
• Only Swords and Kodachis are allowed.
• Maps like Stairway and Lost Shrine which are easy to flip into oblivion.

I already talked with Mcsic about this and he seemed to like it and willing to add it, I posted it here so I might get new / better ideas from you guys, please if you have an idea then go ahead.



I think I saw a suggestion like this years ago idk but a credit for whoever made that is given.

yes but many of the players who play flips dont only flip because only flipping and dealing no damage with your sword isnt fun, otherwise you wouldnt need to put the rules you suggest in place in order to force players to be unable to do damage.
the rooms are popular for more than just being able to flip.

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Originally Posted by Bunny

yes but many of the players who play flips dont only flip because only flipping and dealing no damage with your sword isnt fun, otherwise you wouldnt need to put the rules you suggest in place in order to force players to be unable to do damage.
the rooms are popular for more than just being able to flip.

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I agree with Bunny. I remember I used to play at those stairway rooms sometimes when I was super bored, and tbh I wouldn't join those rooms if I couldn't deal any damage with my sword. Also not to mention you basically disabled D-style so you lose some players who won't join those specific rooms.

Let daggers aswell, but I agree on no dmg part.

Nice, maybe Berserker type mode for flippers, to give #1 extra dmg on sword.

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Originally Posted by Bunny

yes but many of the players who play flips dont only flip because only flipping and dealing no damage with your sword isnt fun, otherwise you wouldnt need to put the rules you suggest in place in order to force players to be unable to do damage.
the rooms are popular for more than just being able to flip.

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Originally Posted by Ommadawn

I agree with Bunny. I remember I used to play at those stairway rooms sometimes when I was super bored, and tbh I wouldn't join those rooms if I couldn't deal any damage with my sword. Also not to mention you basically disabled D-style so you lose some players who won't join those specific rooms.

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Making something new doesn't prevent the old thing from continuing.
If you don't like this mode go make a normal room, but my point is people who play those rooms for flips purpose don't get along very well with the present mode.
Here are some examples:
• people join with large swords and spam slash, they either kill you or they make you so low that you spend 2~4 minutes trying to heal just to not mess your score up.
• You flip someone and you keep slashing him to oblivion or you trying to save him, if he slashes you 1 time you load massive then you hit it mid-air and you end up suiciding.
• 3-4 people aiming you and keep slashing you to get you killed in a room was meant to be a flips room.

As I said, If you don't like this mode you can still play the current mode, but this mode will be perfect for the flippers.

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Originally Posted by Hulk

Let daggers aswell, but I agree on no dmg part.

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Daggers won't be an obstacle since you can't deal damage by them, sounds fine.

then for the same reason gladiator tournaments got declined, i still dont agree with this suggestion. dividing the small community even further is the opposite of the goal.
literally all of the problems you brought up are solved by one thing: git gud (learn to abuse large swords that cant block or flip, delay your slashes or learn to control your massive in other ways, be better than the 3-4 players aiming you (it never bothered me in the past)).

by the way, this isnt targeted at you, but at anyone who sees the things you brought up as genuine problems.

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Originally Posted by Bunny

then for the same reason gladiator tournaments got declined, i still dont agree with this suggestion. dividing the small community even further is the opposite of the goal.
literally all of the problems you brought up are solved by one thing: git gud (learn to abuse large swords that cant block or flip, delay your slashes or learn to control your massive in other ways, be better than the 3-4 players aiming you (it never bothered me in the past)).

by the way, this isnt targeted at you, but at anyone who sees the things you brought up as genuine problems.

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I still don't get your point or why are you taking this too far, how can we divide the players by making a new mode, its like saying cancel turbo mode since we already have a deathmatch mode.
What's the problem of making a new mode serving people who only join for flip purpose.

I mean the room was made to be A FLIP ROOM why tf would anyone waste his time dodging annoying players who trying to ruin the fun for him. And if you're so good doesn't mean that everyone is good at the game, But you look at things only from your point of view.

And for god sake, I'm saying this for the 3rd time, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THIS MAKE A NORMAL ROOM.

There also that Spy mode which none play, so its ppls choice what to play or what not.
If u dont want this added, simply dont play lol. let others have variety of options. .....

This is a horrible idea. Stairway is not just flipping. It combines both with each other. This mode is going to do nothing good for the stairway community, if anything it's just gonna split the small group that already exists. I personally believe that by adding this mode you'll either kill stairway all together or this mode will stay untouched.

Kuja you ass where you been.

OT: Great suggestion. I believe this will bring the "fun" into the flipping games. Dealing no dmg will mean that people can have fun trying to juggle each other across the map.

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Originally Posted by Linzor

This is a horrible idea. Stairway is not just flipping. It combines both with each other. This mode is going to do nothing good for the stairway community, if anything it's just gonna split the small group that already exists. I personally believe that by adding this mode you'll either kill stairway or this mode will stay untouched.

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I don't think any player would join Stairways just to play normal glad, cause if you do then have fun dying every 9 seconds (suicide or getting flipped by other players), most of the players join for flipping, as a flip player i see this mode more fun in many ways, like juggling as Mex mentioned.
I still don't get how this is gonna split the community since most of players join those rooms just for flips. You're one of them players.
And another point, most of the players who play stairways use mainly rusty or training swords, that means that they trying to get as less damage as possible.

Hi Aredus

OT: Wanted to add this in...
This mode will be beneficial for medstylers as there will be no dmg dealt. So, the medstyler won't die by 4-5 hits by large swords.

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Originally Posted by Mex

Kuja you ass where you been.

OT: Great suggestion. I believe this will bring the "fun" into the flipping games. Dealing no dmg will mean that people can have fun trying to juggle each other across the map.

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You mean like with training swords? Only difference is that you're not giving the other person the choice if he wants to deal damage or not by hitting you. It completely divides the stairway community players since everyone has their own techniques. By removing damage you won't have to care of getting hit by someone so you can just continue flipping 24/7 hoping to finally hit someone. Having damage on punishes them for "missing". It brings strategy to the mode which this suggestion complety destroys.

To me, who has been a stairway player ever since I first started playing GunZ back when I was 10 years old (14 years ago), I'd compare this to the scenario we had with the [R] tag. It completely ruined some people's playstyle when we removed it and it made many players quit all together because of the change. Only difference here is that you're changing the original concept to something worse, as with the [R] tag you only reversed it back to its "original" form.

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Originally Posted by Linzor

You mean like with training swords? Only difference is that you're not giving the other person the choice if he wants to deal damage or not by hitting you. It completely divides the stairway community players since everyone has their own techniques. By removing damage you won't have to care of getting hit by someone so you can just continue flipping 24/7 hoping to finally hit someone. Having damage on punishes them for "missing". It brings strategy to the mode which this suggestion complety destroys.

To me, who has been a stairway player ever since I first started playing GunZ back when I was 10 years old (14 years ago), I'd compare this to the scenario we had with the [R] tag. It completely ruined some people's playstyle when we removed it and it made many players quit all together because of the change. Only difference here is that you're changing the original concept to something worse, as with the [R] tag you only reversed it back to its "original" form.

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missing what? everyone misses slashes?, the slashing will help to slash then flip. But having to get hit by sword and then run around the map to find meds or even rejoin is kinda shit. knowing u wont need to heal up meaning u can have faster paced fights. also like mex said u can juggle ppl for to have fun time, good idea.
If ppl dont like this then they can stick to normal glad, simple.

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Originally Posted by ImComming4U

missing what? everyone misses slashes?, the slashing will help to slash then flip. But having to get hit by sword and then run around the map to find meds or even rejoin is kinda shit. knowing u wont need to heal up meaning u can have faster paced fights. also like mex said u can juggle ppl for to have fun time, good idea.
If ppl dont like this then they can stick to normal glad, simple.

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Flips, not slashes. When you flip you also become vulnerable.

People can run away from you either way, only difference is that now you have to chase them down by flipping them instead of slashing them, you think they run just because they're low on health? Enjoy dealing with trolls (oh sorry I forgot that you're one). This doesn't necessarily make anything faster. That depends completely on their playstyle.

I already mentioned the juggling. The easier solution would be to equip a training sword rather than making a whole new mode about it that splits the entire community, which is a very small community to begin with.

Its a good idea to be honest getting slashed from big swords and run for heals not fun just give it a try people might like it.
i mean stairway glad meant to be only for flips and we all know that.
either way i'am fine with both slash or no slash just saying give it a chance.

I think a better suggestion would be to somehow make Team Glad more appealing considering that it is a dead mode.

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Originally Posted by Linzor

Flips, not slashes. When you flip you also become vulnerable.

People can run away from you either way, only difference is that now you have to chase them down by flipping them instead of slashing them, you think they run just because they're low on health? Enjoy dealing with trolls (oh sorry I forgot that you're one). This doesn't necessarily make anything faster. That depends completely on their playstyle.

I already mentioned the juggling. The easier solution would be to equip a training sword rather than making a whole new mode about it that splits the entire community, which is a very small community to begin with.

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u can still slash plus flip as a combo to kill, which everyone does. I mean if someone was running away from you, then in a map like stairways you wouldn;t get caught. also if someone is running away from you not cuz they are low, why would someone be bothered to chase? thats just dumb, unless you are frustrated and want to smack the dude like theres no tomorrow, in a map like stairways that is lol.

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Originally Posted by ProAssPlayer

i mean stairway glad meant to be only for flips and we all know that.

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Spoken like a true rookie. It like I said above combines both.

I'm not sure you ever play stairway but you're telling me you see people with big swords run away and hit people? I don't think you've played stairway for at least 2 years on this server.

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Originally Posted by ImComming4U

u can still slash plus flip as a combo to kill, which everyone does. I mean if someone was running away from you, then in a map like stairways you wouldn;t get caught. also if someone is running away from you not cuz they are low, why would someone be bothered to chase? thats just dumb, unless you are frustrated and want to smack the dude like theres no tomorrow, in a map like stairways that is lol.

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I have no idea what you mean by that combo. You can't possible flip and also slash at the same time. What I'm saying is that while you're flipping, you're vulnerable to taking damage. People use that as an advantage to do damage on you, punishing you for missing/making a mistake.

You chase people all the time so you tell me. So if they don't get caught then how would this make it any easier? It's definitely possible to chase down trolls by doing damage to them.

I am against this idea because it creates a brainless mode that won't last. It will only divide the small community that we already are on stairway. That's why I think this will just kill stairway all together instead.

Enjoy dealing with campers btw. Gonna love that shit.

Linzor.

I'm not sure you ever play stairway but you're telling me you see people with big swords run away and hit people? I don't think you've played stairway for at least 2 years on this server.


a true rookie u saying ? u not sure that i ever play stairway and i didnt play stairway for 2 years.
why u talking like u know and i already said i dont mind both dont get over urself cuz ur a gm just saying i respect u but dont go around saying something u dont know.

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Originally Posted by Zabu

I don't think any player would join Stairways just to play normal glad, cause if you do then have fun dying every 9 seconds (suicide or getting flipped by other players), most of the players join for flipping, as a flip player i see this mode more fun in many ways, like juggling as Mex mentioned.
I still don't get how this is gonna split the community since most of players join those rooms just for flips. You're one of them players.
And another point, most of the players who play stairways use mainly rusty or training swords, that means that they trying to get as less damage as possible.

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No they don't join stairway just to play normal glad. But it has always been a combination of both. This however removes any skills that there is to this mode (believe it or not non-stairway players but there are sucha thing). As a flip player I don't see how this is going to improve the mode at all. You can SIMPLY put on training sword and nothing would be different for you. You can juggle people all you want with training swords. Having people do that would be so much better than divide people by creating a new mode which means a new room for the few people who still play this mode. This is not going to bring new players to stairway but only make more leave it. If anything you get a few more campers who will just flip 24/7 at some spot knowing they can't take damage.

This is not innovative, it doesn't bring new people to the map. You only satisfy a part of the current stairway community while the other half is unpleased that there are less people in the original mode since you divided it. less people = less fun. This is the wrong direction to take for the server to grow Imo.

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Originally Posted by ProAssPlayer

Linzor.

I'm not sure you ever play stairway but you're telling me you see people with big swords run away and hit people? I don't think you've played stairway for at least 2 years on this server.


a true rookie u saying ? u not sure that i ever play stairway and i didnt play stairway for 2 years.
why u talking like u know and i already said i dont mind both dont get over urself cuz ur a gm just saying i respect u but dont go around saying something u dont know.

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I'm talking like I know that because you obviously don't know anything about stairway. So don't get pissed off because I comment your stupid statement. If you can't deal with criticism then don't bother commenting.

I'm not a GM, and if you think this has anything to do with me being a staff member then think again.

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Originally Posted by ProAssPlayer

i mean stairway glad meant to be only for flips and we all know that.

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wrong. it got popular among specifically gladiator players that wanted an alternative to just slashing away at your opponent by giving a relatively high chance of getting a kill if youre good enough and can get a flip on them, FOLLOWED by slashes and everything else.

as someone who has been playing for years (even if less for the past year), i have noticed that many players are starting to use flipping mostly which turned the rooms to stale and boring where ping determines a big part of your success.
slashing and giving the opponent a fear of death if he stands still and keeps trying to flip you gives you a chance to lock them down and flip them yourself.
also, imagine the stalemates of trying to flip a camper when you literally cannot kill him by slashing (and consider the amount of fun you'll have in the process?).

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Originally Posted by Bunny

wrong. it got popular among specifically gladiator players that wanted an alternative to just slashing away at your opponent by giving a relatively high chance of getting a kill if youre good enough and can get a flip on them, FOLLOWED by slashes and everything else.

as someone who has been playing for years (even if less for the past year), i have noticed that many players are starting to use flipping mostly which turned the rooms to stale and boring where ping determines a big part of your success.
slashing and giving the opponent a fear of death if he stands still and keeps trying to flip you gives you a chance to lock them down and flip them yourself.
also, imagine the stalemates of trying to flip a camper when you literally cannot kill him by slashing (and consider the amount of fun you'll have in the process?).

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I think Bunny makes a really good point here when it comes to ping. Flipping someone with high ping is really difficult if they're moving around. You basically have to predict where they are going to be 2 seconds before they're there. If anything I think this has discouraged people from playing stairway.

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Originally Posted by Linzor

You can SIMPLY put on training sword and nothing would be different for you. You can juggle people all you want with training swords.

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How can you juggle someone when they slash you to load massive and make u suicide.
Ppl who agreed with this are very active players who only play flips.
Played stairways for years now haven't seen omma not even once
Linzor plays once evey two weeks and havent seen bunny in a while in a stairway room.
Which means flips players want this so bad not only me.

I am done with this for now, waiting for different opinions.
Thanks for your opinions eveyone, either supports it or not.

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Originally Posted by Zabu

• You can't deal any damage by melee weapons.

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You lost me right there and that's the reason I would be against it.

You wouldn't be able to juggle if I slashed you away anyways, with or without you getting a massive.
You and two others who are considered being the biggest trolls of this community approve of this suggestion. Yeah I don't know if that's to your benefit or not.
You not seeing us in stairway as frequently has got nothing to do with us not understand the mode itself.

Your only argument here is that you and some others who commented here plays stairway so that must be what stairway player wants. Tell me how this will benefit this server? How will dividing people help at all? Or do you seriously believe that this mode will bring new players to stairway? You think what's been holding people back from playing stairway right now is that people slash them? I sincerely doubt that.

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Originally Posted by Linzor

I have no idea what you mean by that combo. You can't possible flip and also slash at the same time. What I'm saying is that while you're flipping, you're vulnerable to taking damage. People use that as an advantage to do damage on you, punishing you for missing/making a mistake.

You chase people all the time so you tell me. So if they don't get caught then how would this make it any easier? It's definitely possible to chase down trolls by doing damage to them.

I am against this idea because it creates a brainless mode that won't last. It will only divide the small community that we already are on stairway. That's why I think this will just kill stairway all together instead.

Enjoy dealing with campers btw. Gonna love that shit.

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about the Combo - when u slash the user, they are slightly locked at their position if their on ground, so if ur quick u can simply slash and flip the dude. thats what im tryna say.
When I flip i flip and shift, so if someone were to slash i would recoil it.

I Dont chase ppl who are healing up unless i hear the sound of them being low, if that were the case then i'll chase them so im leading hence i can make the flip on time rather slash them to death.
Or avoid chasing at all, cuz like i said in a map like stairways its difficult to chase.

Admins have already dealt with campers, theres 2-3 delay of spawn. so if someone was camping at spawn, simply camp along with them, you wont get flipped and they'll be flipped. in general camping, im sure many have learnt to tackle a camper, someone like Zec aka Non-Legendary.

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Originally Posted by Linzor

I think Bunny makes a really good point here when it comes to ping. Flipping someone with high ping is really difficult if they're moving around. You basically have to predict where they are going to be 2 seconds before they're there. If anything I think this has discouraged people from playing stairway.

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This is why /kick is in place, if everyone finds the camper with high pinger pissing them off, simply /kick. if you have played stairways so long, leading the camper shouldn't be a problem.

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Originally Posted by Linzor

You wouldn't be able to juggle if I slashed you away anyways, with or without you getting a massive.
You and two others who are considered being the biggest trolls of this community approve of this suggestion. Yeah I don't know if that's to your benefit or not.
You not seeing us in stairway as frequently has got nothing to do with us not understand the mode itself.

Your only argument here is that you and some others who commented here plays stairway so that must be what stairway player wants. Tell me how this will benefit this server? How will dividing people help at all? Or do you seriously believe that this mode will bring new players to stairway? You think what's been holding people back from playing stairway right now is that people slash them? I sincerely doubt that.

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It is like you know what the future is, please explain how this will divide the current ccommunity in half? i dont get how you can constantly repeat urself saying the flip community will halve. Perhaps the new mode will be active and ppl will forget the normal playing mode. How are you so certain about this?

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about the Combo - when u slash the user, they are slightly locked at their position if their on ground, so if ur quick u can simply slash and flip the dude. thats what im tryna say.
When I flip i flip and shift, so if someone were to slash i would recoil it.

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That's irrelevant to what I was talking about.

No. I can't predict the future, All I'm saying is that I think this will hurt the game more than it will save it. I think you will kill the mode by doing this and that's just my opinion and that's why I'm arguing against this idea. I am also arguing for what i enjoy about the mode and how this idea ruins the fun for us who likes the original mode. You're dividing it because you and a few others will be in this new mode while others will stay at the original. That's to divide. Basically making a mode more friendly to flips won't bring more players.

I personally enjoy it because of the strategys I have to use. It makes it challenging. If I login and see only a room with this new mode and not the original mode then i won't bother to enter as it has ruined my way of playing the game. And that's my PERSONAL opinion, which I have every right to use here as I believe others will feel the same way once this comes through. Read my example again with the [R] tag above.

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That's irrelevant to what I was talking about.

No. I can't predict the future, All I'm saying is that I think this will hurt the game more than it will save it. I think you will kill the mode by doing this and that's just my opinion and that's why I'm arguing against this idea. I am also arguing for what i enjoy about the mode and how this idea ruins the fun for us who likes the original mode. You're dividing it because you and a few others will be in this new mode while others will stay at the original. That's to divide. Basically making a mode more friendly to flips won't bring more players.

I personally enjoy it because of the strategys I have to use. It makes it challenging. If I login and see only a room with this new mode and not the original mode then i won't bother to enter as it has ruined my way of playing the game. And that's my PERSONAL opinion, which I have every right to use here as I believe others will feel the same way once this comes through. Read my example again with the [R] tag above.

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How do u know it will hurt the game more than save it?
None of the modes will be killed, sometimes its normal mode, somtimes its this new mode. depends on which room is active, that room will stay.
From what i know, stairways glad room do die when players leave the game. if you are saying i and few others will play new mode, and others will continue original mode. i'm afraid but this will not be the case, either the normal glad or the new glad style will be more active at a given time.

look dude, you just medstyle, your using ur past to determine what is what. we know whats happening here. so idk why your coming in the way.

This suggestion is gr8, i believe the admins should make stairways flips more great.

Removing damage causes a major change in approach towards this mode's community which is small already, so dividing it even further seems like a really stupid move.

Look, if you remove damage you remove a very big part of the fun about it, while it's not as big as it sounds you lose lots of strategies when you remove damage, like I did explain to you in game and you even agreed with me, removing damage makes the game quite predictable and no fun, all you'll have to do is spam flips.

"but you still can slash and flip" - yes, you can, but the slashing won't be as effective anymore therefore people will just keep standing there waiting for you to approach with slashes, thus, no point slashing to begin with.

Getting damage also causing you to be aware of your remaining health points which means you'll play more carefully and upon having less health points you'll develop a different strategy for the situation.

Like it was already said it'll take the same effect if everyone will just use training swords.

Glad (and this is glad, no matter if you disagree) is based mostly on timing in calibration with strategy, you remove damage, you remove 50%of the acting glad principles.

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Removing damage causes a major change in approach towards this mode's community which is small already, so dividing it even further seems like a really stupid move.

Look, if you remove damage you remove a very big part of the fun about it, while it's not as big as it sounds you lose lots of strategies when you remove damage, like I did explain to you in game and you even agreed with me, removing damage makes the game quite predictable and no fun, all you'll have to do is spam flips.

"but you still can slash and flip" - yes, you can, but the slashing won't be as effective anymore therefore people will just keep standing there waiting for you to approach with slashes, thus, no point slashing to begin with.

Getting damage also causing you to be aware of your remaining health points which means you'll play more carefully and upon having less health points you'll develop a different strategy for the situation.

Like it was already said it'll take the same effect if everyone will just use training swords.

Glad (and this is glad, no matter if you disagree) is based mostly on timing in calibration with strategy, you remove damage, you remove 50%of the acting glad principles.

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This Mode, will not divide anyone... goddamit how do u guys think it will divide? either the most popular glad room at the given time will be played until it dies out, then the next person making the room will decide what will be the mode and this will continue. The community wont be divided...............

How will slashing not be effective? slashing followed by flip is mostly what decent ppl in stairways use to flip someone to death. The DMG part is unnecessary as you can just run away and constanly heal up which is very time consuming since they halved the hp/ap amount.

The only stratergy someone developes when they are low is to tuttle up and run to the god damn hp/ap spawn at stairways.... like comon...

Why are you comparing to normal glad mode?

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Originally Posted by ImComming4U

This Mode, will not divide anyone... goddamit how do u guys think it will divide? either the most popular glad room at the given time will be played until it dies out, then the next person making the room will decide what will be the mode and this will continue. The community wont be divided...............

How will slashing not be effective? slashing followed by flip is mostly what decent ppl in stairways use to flip someone to death. The DMG part is unnecessary as you can just run away and constanly heal up which is very time consuming since they halved the hp/ap amount.

The only stratergy someone developes when they are low is to tuttle up and run to the god damn hp/ap spawn at stairways.... like comon...

Why are you comparing to normal glad mode?

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Well, according to your statement, let's just remove HP & AP spawns altogether in all game modes since they're waste of time, right?

HP spawns exist in all kinds of games, not just GunZ, so saying they're "waste of time" is bluntly dumb.
yes while you have to run to get healed it's also part of the game and strategy of how you run not to get killed in the process and then again you gotta time it right if the spawn isn't re-created yet.

"but I can just hang on somewhere near" - yes you can, but while doing it you also have to be cautious about your surroundings which is again, part of strategy and game.

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Originally Posted by León

Well, according to your statement, let's just remove HP & AP spawns altogether in all game modes since they're waste of time, right?

HP spawns exist in all kinds of games, not just GunZ, so saying they're "waste of time" is bluntly dumb.
yes while you have to run to get healed it's also part of the game and strategy of how you run not to get killed in the process and then again you gotta time it right if the spawn isn't re-created yet.

"but I can just hang on somewhere near" - yes you can, but while doing it you also have to be cautious about your surroundings which is again, part of strategy and game.

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theres no strategy,,, u camp at hp/ap spot if some chases u then you run away like a noob. hp/ap spawns r not required we want fast intense gameplay not slow.

Flipping is not a sometime thing; it's an all the time thing. You don't flip once in a while; you don't do things right once in a while; you do them right all of the time. flippin is a habit.

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Originally Posted by ImComming4U

This Mode, will not divide anyone... goddamit how do u guys think it will divide? either the most popular glad room at the given time will be played until it dies out, then the next person making the room will decide what will be the mode and this will continue. The community wont be divided...............

How will slashing not be effective? slashing followed by flip is mostly what decent ppl in stairways use to flip someone to death. The DMG part is unnecessary as you can just run away and constanly heal up which is very time consuming since they halved the hp/ap amount.

The only stratergy someone developes when they are low is to tuttle up and run to the god damn hp/ap spawn at stairways.... like comon...

Why are you comparing to normal glad mode?

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giving your slashes a more impactful feeling (which some mmos do really well) is an important bit to playing glad, even in stairway. Removing the fear from players who do nothing but flip will turn the game to stale, predictable and boring, its a fact.

ive played about 2 hours of glad today dominating you and your 3 fanboys and i relied on my slashing so much to finalize the killing because not every fight ends with a flip, infact if there were statistics to determine how many kills in the stairway map end with death by low hp rather than death by flip, the percentages would be very high considering the nature of the map and how much of it is void.

Therefore, as Leon said, removing the ability to finalize your kills using slashes and ontop of that giving the opponent a fear for his life when hes on low hp (causing him to block, and be vulnerable to flips), causes the mode to lose a lot of the strategic playstyle it has.

If you and especially your brother wouldnt be so much of trolls nowadays you would agree.

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Originally Posted by Rain

Flipping is not a sometime thing; it's an all the time thing. You don't flip once in a while; you don't do things right once in a while; you do them right all of the time. flippin is a habit.

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Originally Posted by Bunny

giving your slashes a more impactful feeling (which some mmos do really well) is an important bit to playing glad, even in stairway. Removing the fear from players who do nothing but flip will turn the game to stale, predictable and boring, its a fact.

ive played about 2 hours of glad today dominating you and your 3 fanboys and i relied on my slashing so much to finalize the killing because not every fight ends with a flip, infact if there were statistics to determine how many kills in the stairway map end with death by low hp rather than death by flip, the percentages would be very high considering the nature of the map and how much of it is void.

Therefore, as Leon said, removing the ability to finalize your kills using slashes and ontop of that giving the opponent a fear for his life when hes on low hp (causing him to block, and be vulnerable to flips), causes the mode to lose a lot of the strategic playstyle it has.

If you and especially your brother wouldnt be so much of trolls nowadays you would agree.

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wasn't even trying, was using kods u idiot.
OT: No the dmg should be removed and more concentration should be made on your flipping ability. All you do is bring high dmg sword and throw out some bfs at ppl, which is very lame to me; what your essentially making ppl do is back out and waste time to heal up. If no dmg is in place, this wont be the case, ppl will try to fight constantly. i.e. a passt-paced fighting environment. which will bring more ppl into the game.

I say no. This would take up space on the client that can go towards other things, just to please a very small group of people (even if they're super active, it's a small amount of people). Plus it's not like this is some type of "wow" factor suggestion either that'll boost the player count. Most of the community laughs at and mocks the concept of Gladiator anyway.

This is really specific and limits who's able to play. You want a flip-only game mode, but:

- Not all of the game's weapons can flip. (D-stylers & L Sworders screwed)
- Players who like to do insta-kills in mid air won't be able to by dealing no dmg
- Some players like both using their sword to damage and flip-killing if needed

And of course the repeated answer to it all is "Huehuehuecrycrycry go screw and make another room that'll die in 5 mins, because we're all having fun and no one will end up joining you" lol. It'd be a good idea if kept separate from the Main Lobby and done as like a "Friendly Fire Flipping LMS" event, hosted exclusively on Stairway and other similar maps. Otherwise it's just gonna be the [R] and [IA] story all over again like Linzor said, separating the Glad community that's already dead.

I'm fine either way, but I would suggest boosting sword dmg a bit in TDMs since blocking is not an option against sgs. I'm not implying - make swords op and annoying to deal with, just a notch. It'd feel much more rewarding and fair when you decide to fight sgs head on in a tough moment. But - even if it stays the same - it's cool.
Just my 2 cents.

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I say no. This would take up space on the client that can go towards other things, just to please a very small group of people (even if they're super active, it's a small amount of people). Plus it's not like this is some type of "wow" factor suggestion either that'll boost the player count. Most of the community laughs at and mocks the concept of Gladiator anyway.

This is really specific and limits who's able to play. You want a flip-only game mode, but:

- Not all of the game's weapons can flip. (D-stylers & L Sworders screwed)
- Players who like to do insta-kills in mid air won't be able to by dealing no dmg
- Some players like both using their sword to damage and flip-killing if needed

And of course the repeated answer to it all is "Huehuehuecrycrycry go screw and make another room that'll die in 5 mins, because we're all having fun and no one will end up joining you" lol. It'd be a good idea if kept separate from the Main Lobby and done as like a "Friendly Fire Flipping LMS" event, hosted exclusively on Stairway and other similar maps. Otherwise it's just gonna be the [R] and [IA] story all over again like Linzor said, separating the Glad community that's already dead.

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I dont get it why irrelevant ppl like u are commenting on such thread, who doesn't know how to flip at all.
I dont see why, you claim glad is laughed and mocked at? i mean try playing normal gun game with breakers removing k-style element. the ability to use your sword to dash and move around is a huge after in the play-style of ppl using gunz. Pppl who think using Gunz is the best thiing in this game are stupid and dumb, remove k-style and its all dumbplays.

Who said that this mode will stop D-stylers from lunging? not many D-stylers r around, they can most likely still e-lunge and play normal.

if you wanna insta-kill, go training room and get an insta sword and do it there..

The dead Glad community wont be separated, i mean its either normal glad or stairways flips. its already seperated, but these ppl are claiming ppl in strairways will also be separated, which is not true.

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I dont get it why irrelevant ppl like u are commenting on such thread, who doesn't know how to flip at all.

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Okay, then continue to get butthurt whenever someone disagrees with this suggestion you didn't even start the thread on yourself. Take that nonsense to a thread you actually started. You guys are just proving this is such a selfish suggestion because 1, it's being made for such a small amount of people (and no matter how fun it is in your guys' world, it's not fun or special enough to bring back a wave of players), and 2, you guys get pissy whenever someone challenges the suggestion and you throw in unnecessary things like "Just make a new room if you wanna cry about it," "You don't even play", or "You're not a skilled player so your opinion doesn't matter." But at least you 6+ players will be happy and get what you all want :D:D !

We're a community dude. Anyone should be able to contribute an idea, not just specific people. The glad community is already divided, and it's not divided down the middle either. History repeats itself, and no matter how many times you keep saying it won't divide it even more, this is the same story as the [R] and [IA] tag situation, obviously just with Glad rooms. It will divide it more lol. Idk why you're all passive aggressive... I never fully disagreed with the suggestion. I said I only think this is a bad idea in the Main Lobby, but would be a great idea if it were held strictly as an event. Don't be so tense acting like I decide which suggestions accept and decline lol. Our words are an opinion, not necessarily the decision they're going to make.

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I say no. This would take up space on the client that can go towards other things, just to please a very small group of people

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How 10 players out of 50 are very small group?

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I dont get it why irrelevant ppl like u are commenting on such thread, who doesn't know how to flip at all.
I dont see why, you claim glad is laughed and mocked at? i mean try playing normal gun game with breakers removing k-style element. the ability to use your sword to dash and move around is a huge after in the play-style of ppl using gunz. Pppl who think using Gunz is the best thiing in this game are stupid and dumb, remove k-style and its all dumbplays.

Who said that this mode will stop D-stylers from lunging? not many D-stylers r around, they can most likely still e-lunge and play normal.

if you wanna insta-kill, go training room and get an insta sword and do it there..

The dead Glad community wont be separated, i mean its either normal glad or stairways flips. its already seperated, but these ppl are claiming ppl in strairways will also be separated, which is not true.

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Using your logic, you are irrelevant to the cw scene so why are you talking about k-style or using gunz ?

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Pppl who think using Gunz is the best thiing in this game are stupid and dumb, remove k-style and its all dumbplays.

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Do you have any idea how dumb you sound? Remove k-style and glad pretty much wouldn't exist since you won't have butterfly or any other mechanic

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Using your logic, you are irrelevant to the cw scene so why are you talking about k-style or using gunz ?



Do you have any idea how dumb you sound? Remove k-style and glad pretty much wouldn't exist since you won't have butterfly or any other mechanic

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Remove sword/melee wep from your gunz game-play, then its so shit. Im not saying about removing k-style from glad, all im saying is to play with breakers, you use the skills of sword/melee to do majority of the skills performed together. Maybe you didn't get me, you sound more dumb?

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Remove sword/melee wep from your gunz game-play, then its so shit. Im not saying about removing k-style from glad, all im saying is to play with breakers, you use the skills of sword/melee to do majority of the skills performed together. Maybe you didn't get me, you sound more dumb?

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I sound dumb because I didnt get you? You literally said: "remove k-style". You didn't mention removing k-style for gunz only(not sure how that would work anyway).

But ok, ur argument is still shitty. Ur saying remove sword and playing with gunz is shit. Well, remove block and glad is shit.

Can you see now how retarded your argument is ? If you remove a core mechanic ofcourse k-style is going to be shit, but same goes for glad so idk what kind of point ur trying to make.

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I sound dumb because I didnt get you? You literally said: "remove k-style". You didn't mention removing k-style for gunz only(not sure how that would work anyway).

But ok, ur argument is still shitty. Ur saying remove sword and playing with gunz is shit. Well, remove block and glad is shit.

Can you see now how retarded your argument is ? If you remove a core mechanic ofcourse k-style is going to be shit, but same goes for glad so idk what kind of point ur trying to make.

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Glad ==> Sword
Gunz ==> Sword + Guns

Since Glad is Sword, Gunz is Sword + Guns, remove Sword from Gunz you get Guns only. Which is a much shitty playstyle. Remove melee and Guns are shit. I guess your argument is even retarded to mine.

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Glad ==> Sword
Gunz ==> Sword + Guns

Since Glad is Sword, Gunz is Sword + Guns, remove Sword from Gunz you get Guns only. Which is a much shitty playstyle. Remove melee and Guns are shit. I guess your argument is even retarded to mine.

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Thank you for going on this pointless argument just to once again prove why this suggestion should not be implemented.

Since glad in stairway includes both slashing and flipping, remove slashing from stairway glad and you get flips only. Which is a much shitty playstyle. Remove slashing and flips are shit.

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Thank you for going on this pointless argument just to once again prove why this suggestion should not be implemented.

Since glad in stairway includes both slashing and flipping, remove slashing from stairway glad and you get flips only. Which is a much shitty playstyle. Remove slashing and flips are shit.

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The argument of gunz was bought up because ppl using gun think their gods and talk trash about ppl who glad.

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The argument of gunz was bought up because ppl using gun think their gods and talk trash about ppl who glad.

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My point stands.

Lots of discussion, I agree with some of what Linzor said.

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