Extra slot for magazine, kick system tiny tweak, snipers and duel mode.

Suggestion type:
Forum/FGunZ/Other


Suggestion description1:
To add a third slot for an ammo magazine, so you would have HP&AP med and also an ammo magazine, this item should be donation, maybe even a VIP item and only have two clips. This is good because sometimes your ammo runs out in a tactical situation and it would be a good thing to refurbish it, this would compliment the gameplay and meta instead of changing it too much like with the nade slot.

Suggestion description2:
To add a third option to vote kick, right now we have to vote yes or no, a third option would be neutral as in pressing "X", so your vote will be null and not count. This is good for big rooms, or if you just joined and have no idea why someone is being kicked and/or you do not wish to judge them at all.


Suggestion description3:
Debuff sniper damage. The players have gotten too damn pro at sniping and it ruins the original gunz meta and feel. (Also getting 1 shot in Turbo is really repetitive at this point .l.('_').l.) //edit, if snipers wanna still have fun, they can use the HP, AP tag to lower the health, but in regular matches snipers shouldnt even be powerful enough to deal any damage imo (._.'')

Suggestion description4:
Duel mode has meds, vials & nades disabled by default or at least they don't increase health, or do damage. This would prevent trolling or cheating.

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Originally Posted by Amers

Suggestion description3:
Debuff sniper damage. The players have gotten too damn pro at sniping and it ruins the original gunz meta and feel. (Also getting 1 shot in Turbo is really repetitive at this point .l.('_').l.)

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Punishing players for being too good at something makes no sense whatsoever. Proposing a change like making snipers deal less damage is alright, but make them have a faster reload time instead. Nerfing a weapon just because there are players who can use them very efficiently sounds like an excuse to not get better yourself.

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Originally Posted by Ashen

Punishing players for being too good at something makes no sense whatsoever. Proposing a change like making snipers deal less damage is alright, but make them have a faster reload time instead. Nerfing a weapon just because there are players who can use them very efficiently sounds like an excuse to not get better yourself.

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I'm not proposing that the players get punished for being too good at sniping, It was just complimentary humor... '-'

Ill do without humor: I suggest to debuff snipers because they weren't a weapon in gunz to begin with and are a bit too powerful at the moment.

S1: could try it out as a tag. 3rd slot for any other item apart from heals.
S2: this should be added. I often press y unless I know the person. This should neglect user being kicked for jokes.
S3: if you tried Snipes 3_5 years ago. They were very OP then. I think it's fine like this.
S4: maybe a duel mode with predefined weapons n items so it's fair for all.

Extra slot for magazine; unlike the other suggestions for a slot for elements i think this is fine as long as you have to pay lots of coins to both unlock it and put a magazine that can fit in it.

I do think snipers shouldnt one shot in turbo because it takes out a lot of fun from that gamemode, if it leaves them with like 10 hp or something then that would be better.

Not doing anything in a vote kick (keeping it as is) currently, is a neutral vote. that changes when you press yes/no. after the time limit passes you need like 60% of the votes as yes for it to go through.

I am not agree with nerfing snipers :@

personally they have to focus on fixing potholes of bugs/glitch, fgunz almost lost over 50+players cus of "crush"

Just wanna say that the extra magazine slot shouldnt be added in my opinion, maybe a nade slot, but a portable magazine for people that donate a lot breaks the way we play this game

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Originally Posted by Jonathan pls

Just wanna say that the extra magazine slot shouldnt be added in my opinion, maybe a nade slot, but a portable magazine for people that donate a lot breaks the way we play this game

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To think about it ur right, only donators having it would be a bit unfair, so what do you think of this: extra magazine for non-donor, but its 80 level and has less ammo in it. Donor ammo clip for the regular donor shop and has more ammo in it?

@ImComming4U
Ye, i remember back in 2014~15 the snipers were really op and they've gotten debuffed a lot over the years, but I'd go even farther and debuff them even more, becus they weren't a weapon in the game to begin with, with anti-lead they are crazy and playing against snipers just ruins the og gunz experience for me, especially since they can camp and shoot long range, but thats jus me. I could see how in the hands of noobs, current snipers are weak, but if you have guys practicing sniping hardcore on Turbo modes and such and getting real crisp with it, it just ruins the og meta, getting quick scoped in 2 seconds.

@Bunny
"Not doing anything in a vote kick (keeping it as is) currently, is a neutral vote. that changes when you press yes/no. after the time limit passes you need like 60% of the votes as yes for it to go through."
Yep, you're right, but I'd rather not have it flickering on the screen cus its a bit annoying and have a button to just make it disappear.

@Faky
Yeee becos i see u sniping in the turbo mode lool and yeah these suggestions are just some ideas I've had not expecting them to be important :P

against nerfing snipers. if you find them overpowered. try using them and see if it's that easy.

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Originally Posted by Amers

To think about it ur right, only donators having it would be a bit unfair, so what do you think of this: extra magazine for non-donor, but its 80 level and has less ammo in it. Donor ammo clip for the regular donor shop and has more ammo in it?

@ImComming4U
Ye, i remember back in 2014~15 the snipers were really op and they've gotten debuffed a lot over the years, but I'd go even farther and debuff them even more, becus they weren't a weapon in the game to begin with, with anti-lead they are crazy and playing against snipers just ruins the og gunz experience for me, especially since they can camp and shoot long range, but thats jus me. I could see how in the hands of noobs, current snipers are weak, but if you have guys practicing sniping hardcore on Turbo modes and such and getting real crisp with it, it just ruins the og meta, getting quick scoped in 2 seconds.

@Bunny
"Not doing anything in a vote kick (keeping it as is) currently, is a neutral vote. that changes when you press yes/no. after the time limit passes you need like 60% of the votes as yes for it to go through."
Yep, you're right, but I'd rather not have it flickering on the screen cus its a bit annoying and have a button to just make it disappear.

@Faky
Yeee becos i see u sniping in the turbo mode lool and yeah these suggestions are just some ideas I've had not expecting them to be important :P

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Problem still stands in my opinion, adding a magazine slot will completely change the meta in tdm, cw , everything. Not the way this game was intended imo. Reloading is part of the gunfight as well, do you push while reloading? Do you fall back? Reload only 1 gun, or reload both? Its part of the fight. A nade slot would be cool though

Snipers have been nerfed/buffed for so long and yet people are still qqing about it... there's a [sgo] option in turbo mode in case you don't wanna see any snipers btw.

i agree a nadeslot would be cool. but only normal nades not the 1 2 hit k.o ones. reload mag slot would break the game. the ssh and sh shotties will become stronger. and u can expect more rocket spam. snipers are fine. they are a 3 hit kill but with the amount of fast movement and block im this game the chances u get 3 shotted at once are very likely. u have more chance being 3 shotted with a sg. or noe even 2 shotted with the ssh sg. be glad it's not the old sniper where u get oneshotted with a headshot.

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Originally Posted by Amers

Debuff sniper damage. The players have gotten too damn pro at sniping and it ruins the original gunz meta and feel. (Also getting 1 shot in Turbo is really repetitive at this point .l.('_').l.) //edit, if snipers wanna still have fun, they can use the HP, AP tag to lower the health, but in regular matches snipers shouldnt even be powerful enough to deal any damage imo (._.'')

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Just get good with sniper :o.o

1 vote for nerfing snipers. They are literally most toxic weapon in fgunz. Otherwise, allow us to create a tag to exclude snipers in a game room.

I am against nerfing snipers, I don't mind having a tag which allows us to exclude snipers but then it wouldn't be fair if you can't exclude other weapons like sprayers as an example, I personally don't mind playing against someone with snipers in a turbo room but I don't wanna fight against someone whos spraying with a legendary sprayer.

TL;DR:
A roomtag which allows us to exclude specific weapons.

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Originally Posted by Jonathan pls

Problem still stands in my opinion, adding a magazine slot will completely change the meta in tdm, cw , everything. Not the way this game was intended imo. Reloading is part of the gunfight as well, do you push while reloading? Do you fall back? Reload only 1 gun, or reload both? Its part of the fight. A nade slot would be cool though

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Thanks for the perspective you make a good point.

Would be cool to playtest both the nade and magazine slot, so basically my idea now is, you get a magazine or nade slot, either one you choose to equip, but the magazine only refurbishes the secondary ammo of the weapon, so fast reloads by placing the magazine can be avoided. I still think the magazine is a cool addition worth playtesting at least, would see it adding a bit of spice to cws and tdms, but I could be completely wrong, I guess you don't know what you don't know.

@Ommadawn
Ya thats also a good idea, since the only option to avoid snipers is SGO, but I don't mind revolvers or sprayers, so could be nice to get to pick each weapon class.

Also a suggestion that came to mind, Turbo mode should have HP/AP and RPG tag disabled, since it makes the gamemode just a complete and utter bs repetitive exp mine and GunZ loses its point.

Right now there is no point to k-style in Turbo mode especially with the tags, since some guy is spraying like 2000 bullets a second while running at super sonic speeds and reloading instantly, its way too op and I would guess new players joining the Turbo rooms will instantly alt + f4 because its like wtf.. is this bull****, is gunz really like this? U know what I mean?

It should at the very least have a warning box saying this is a special Turbo mode and FG isn't a super sonic, 2000 bullets a second weird modded version of gunz so people dont get the wrong idea and ragequit.

While I personally hate playing against snipers in Turbo Mode, I think that modifying Sniper damage just because of its lethality in turbo mode isn't the play. It would mean that snipers would also have less damage in normal vanilla rooms, discouraging its use. Effects to gameplay in vanilla rooms should have more priority than effects to turbo room or any other fringe/custom room type.

I think the best compromise is to go with what Omma said about being able to ban specific weapons. While tbh this is just a ploy by sprayers who want free kills in turbo rooms but don't want to be killed so quickly by snipers, it's still a nice feature.

All that said, while I don't think snipers should make less damage, equipping snipers imo should affect movement speed. They're long, they're heavy, they do tons of damage, and yet when you manage to sneak up on them they can easily just wall post away and quickly reposition themselves for a counterattack. This means that not only are they useful from a distance, but they're also useful when you're close as well. The main purpose of this is to add some consequence letting your opponents know your location, as well as to and encourage a gameplay that's actually intended for snipers: long range shooting.

At least that's my 2 cents.