Let's talk balance

[McSic]

Let me start off by saying I'm going to remove weapon damage drop-off and minrange/maxrange in the next update due to the feedback we received. Yes!

I've read a bunch of posts regarding the balance of shotguns and other weapons. Let me tell you it's not as easy as it looks. Not all of the suggestions were complete and covered all shotguns, so here's your chance to help us work on the best balance for [S] Shotguns.

<!-- Shotguns: Single - Standard (5 x 5 clip, 15 weight, 2.0 sec reload time) -->
[fill in: dmg, delay]

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Limitbreaker:

I'm open for changes and suggestions.
I want to see what you guys think and if you can agree on a certain balance.

[Bunny]

limitbreaker - 10 dmg, 1000 delay
rest scales proportionally

Update; also, i think all shotguns besides limitbreaker should have the same number of bullets (not 3 or something ridiculous like snipers have)

[McSic]

Update; also, i think all weapons besides limitbreaker should have the same number of bullets (not 3 or something ridiculous like snipers have)

This

<!-- Shotguns: Single - Standard -->
[fill in: dmg, delay]

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Limitbreaker:

is based on standard shotguns with 5 x 5 clip, 15 weight, 2.0 sec reload time.

[Bunny]

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is based on standard shotguns with 5 x 5 clip, 15 weight, 2.0 sec reload time.

yeah but, i believe you refunded the guns such as mayuri because they only have 3 'bullets' before you have to reload?
right now theres only 1 of each donation item, not standard/heavy/light (maybe you could look into adding that, maybe youre planning to regardless..)

[EternalBeast]

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is based on standard shotguns with 5 x 5 clip, 15 weight, 2.0 sec reload time.

The limitbreakers currently weigh 14. Does this mean that they'll be increased to 15, or does it pertain to all [S] shotguns except the limitbreakers (as it is currently)?

[McSic]

The limitbreakers currently weigh 14. Does this mean that they'll be increased to 15, or does it pertain to all [S] shotguns except the limitbreakers (as it is currently)?

In this case, yes, I'm suggesting/imagining them with 15 weight. But you're free to do what you want with their stats. Weight, clip size, damage, delay, etc. etc.

[Portgaz]

Lvl 1: 9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 10:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 20:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 30:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 40:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 50:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 60:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 70:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 80:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 85:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 90:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 95:9 dmg 1000 delay
Event:9 dmg 1000 delay
Donation 100c:9 dmg 1000 delay
Donation 200c:9 dmg 1000 delay
Limitbreaker:9 dmg 1000 delay

all 5 bullets or 6

[Amy]

Lvl 1: 9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 10:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 20:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 30:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 40:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 50:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 60:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 70:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 80:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 85:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 90:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 95:9 dmg 1000 delay
Event:9 dmg 1000 delay
Donation 100c:9 dmg 1000 delay
Donation 200c:9 dmg 1000 delay
Limitbreaker:9 dmg 1000 delay

all 5 bullets or 6

Agree up until Limitbreaker.

It is a legendary item from the luckybox and needs to be „special“ so to speak. I‘d say, put it back to 10 damage.

Oh and, donators should have a little less delay, because, if it‘s all the same then what‘s the point?

[Eeksdee]

Lvl 1: 9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 10:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 20:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 30:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 40:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 50:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 60:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 70:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 80:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 85:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 90:9 dmg 1000 delay
Lvl 95:9 dmg 1000 delay
Event:9 dmg 1000 delay
Donation 100c:9 dmg 1000 delay
Donation 200c:9 dmg 1000 delay
Limitbreaker:9 dmg 1000 delay

all 5 bullets or 6

Then might as well just have a single shotgun

[Zaku]

could you correct this? at fgunz.net/luckybox this appears ..



and actually we have this