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    Not sure if any of you guys know, but there was a shooting at a highschool in my county (Broward). This really hit home for me. Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

    The issue is whether or not guns should be given to those that just turn 18, have previous mental instabilities, all that fun stuff.
    Or, go another route and actually arm teachers with practice on how to shoot a gun, for protection in their classrooms in the event of an active school shooter. Are you guys on the side of pro-gun or harder enforced gun control? Where do you believe the issue lies?

    News article on stoneman douglas
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/18/us/pa...nts/index.html

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    Considering we're not even 2 months into 2018 and there have already been 18 gun-related incidents at American schools in 2018, I'd say you shouldn't be giving out more guns to people so they can protect themselves (and again: possibly hurt others), but rather enforce a much much stricter gun control on the whole country and the people. But I don't think that will happen anytime soon.
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    Originally Posted by McSic View Post
    Considering we're not even 2 months into 2018 and there have already been 18 gun-related incidents at American schools in 2018, I'd say you shouldn't be giving out more guns to people so they can protect themselves (and again: possibly hurt others), but rather enforce a much much stricter gun control on the whole country and the people. But I don't think that will happen anytime soon.
    What I find most disturbing in all of this is that people continue to argue and point fingers at one another, rather than actually coming together and finding some type of resolution or atleast an effort in order to prevent things like this happening. I don't like the fact that me in my last year of highschool have to actually discuss and be prepared for an active school shooter. None-the-less elementary school kids, even younger than myself, not even being able to comprehend the situation.

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    Linzor's Avatar White shores, and beyond

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    This is what truly makes me hate USA because this gotta be pure stupidity, to not do something about it just makes no sense to me.

    First thing you hear from politicians and shit is "NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT GUN-LAWS, NOW IS THE TIME TO PRAY AND HELP THE VICTIMS", Oh go f*** yourself. Talking about gun-laws is never appropriate for those who doesn't want guns to be gone, not until one of these tragedies hits them.

    I don't understand how this is acceptable, literally the only action that's taken place after these incidents are a tweet from the president with a #sad, it's f**ng pathetic.

    Ban guns. You don't need them. In Sweden you can get a gun if you're in a club for over 6 months, but then you need to contact the police and inform them that you got one.
    Can't get any kind of weapon you'd like either, not even remotely. They cant be modded or w/e, include over a max capacity and so on. Not to mention, it's VERY expensive, which makes it so much harder to get a gun in the first place.
    I don't understand how America can't take notes from other countries like Australia who took immediate action when there was a school shooting and banned that shit.
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    In my opinion the best course of action now is to make the gun rules stricter, currently the state with the strictest gun laws is California, but it's still way too easy to get the license over there. Introduce a rigorous process in place for people to get the license, including mental tests and regular medical check ups to prove that the person is still mentally there to own a gun every year or so.

    People that say "just ban guns" I can understand why you'd say that and the frustration behind that. But in all honestly I think it's just too difficult to do that, for so many reasons. One, simply asking the millions of American people to give up their weapons whether they be legally or illegally obtained is a bit of a stretch, people can just hide them even if a law is passed to ban guns. The idea of having a gun for protection is something that's so engrained in the mindset of the American people, it would take a few generations to fully filter out the guns and that mindset. There are many other reasons that could be mentioned.

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    Linzor's Avatar White shores, and beyond

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    simply asking the millions of American people to give up their weapons whether they be legally or illegally obtained is a bit of a stretch, people can just hide them even if a law is passed to ban guns.
    That's no good excuse to not do it lmao. Most people are registered btw so they'll know if they got one or not. Their ideal of having a gun will be broken eventually, question is how far it has to go and how many has to die before they realise that. That's dem politicians needs to convince them that it's the right thing to do, right now.

    None is so dumb to think that the founders thought this was ok when they signed that stupid piece of paper.

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    Please watch this.

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    I personally think the age should be increased to 25. There's no reason an 18 year old male/female needs to be equipped with a gun. A knife, mace, a taser or something of that sort I'd understand, but you don't need no god damn gun at age 18, not even at 21.

    Have mental health/illness disorder checks regularly done on people who wish to purchase a gun. I'd also have them go a lot more in depth with these check ups, since plenty of people can pass them and still be ****ed up in the head enough to go out and murder people. This kid in the Florida shooting is a prime example.

    Also I think the only guns that should be allowed for purchase should be handguns. You don't need to be equipped with a damn assault rifle "for your own protection." I know plenty of my friends who are around my age (23) that own assault rifles. Makes no sense to me. You don't need anything more than a handgun to stop an intruder as long as you know how to aim it. If you can't aim and feel like you need an AR to make up for that lack of aim so you can just spray and pray, take lessons on how to shoot. Simple. And if hunting, say animals for example, is a hobby to you, you shouldn't need to hunt something with a gun stronger than a handgun. If you're trying to hunt something that massive that requires more than a handgun to take them down, IMO there's an issue.

    I'd also have a recall on all weapons that have already been purchased by current gun owners. If the owner is 25 or older and owned a handgun, they could still keep it after going through mental evaluation. Anyone caught with a gun they shouldn't have after that point that was supposed to be recalled can just serve time in prison as a punishment. As far as how long of a prison sentence, that's pretty much up for another debate as a whole separate topic.

    That's just my take on it.

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    Originally Posted by Eddie View Post
    I personally think the age should be increased to 25. There's no reason an 18 year old male/female needs to be equipped with a gun. A knife, mace, a taser or something of that sort I'd understand, but you don't need no god damn gun at age 18, not even at 21.

    Have mental health/illness disorder checks regularly done on people who wish to purchase a gun. I'd also have them go a lot more in depth with these check ups, since plenty of people can pass them and still be ****ed up in the head enough to go out and murder people. This kid in the Florida shooting is a prime example.

    Also I think the only guns that should be allowed for purchase should be handguns. You don't need to be equipped with a damn assault rifle "for your own protection." I know plenty of my friends who are around my age (23) that own assault rifles. Makes no sense to me. You don't need anything more than a handgun to stop an intruder as long as you know how to aim it. If you can't aim and feel like you need an AR to make up for that lack of aim so you can just spray and pray, take lessons on how to shoot. Simple. And if hunting, say animals for example, is a hobby to you, you shouldn't need to hunt something with a gun stronger than a handgun. If you're trying to hunt something that massive that requires more than a handgun to take them down, IMO there's an issue.

    I'd also have a recall on all weapons that have already been purchased by current gun owners. If the owner is 25 or older and owned a handgun, they could still keep it after going through mental evaluation. Anyone caught with a gun they shouldn't have after that point that was supposed to be recalled can just serve time in prison as a punishment. As far as how long of a prison sentence, that's pretty much up for another debate as a whole separate topic.

    That's just my take on it.
    If you don't need a gun when you're 18 or 21, why would you need one when you're 25?

    I do agree that handguns should be the only option, but looking at this they're probably just gonna ban some certain weapons that can then be moddified to become "legal".

    And if hunting, say animals for example, is a hobby to you, you shouldn't need to hunt something with a gun stronger than a handgun
    Don't agree there though, there's a reason why we use rifles to hunt elks/bears and such, bigger animals. But to get that rifle you need to go through a long process.

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    The problem with america is the legalisation of firearms i always thought / still think that is the issue with america they should just get rid of the whole firearm rule in general ofcourse there would still be murders etc but they made a retarded mistake by making this legal also a few years back the economy of america wasnt that great ( probably still isnt ) the country had debts MAINLY because americans are to stubborn to give up their "allowed" to purchase a firearm with correct license

    TLDR america is a shit country with a retarded rule of firearms that should really be removed

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