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[granitxhaka2]

IGN of reported player:ragnarok,yongwolrang

Reason:shotbotting or aimfixing

Proof/Evidence:https://www108.zippyshare.com/v/80reRAy2/file.html
https://imgur.com/a/WHWjCUV
https://www65.zippyshare.com/v/bXopepsc/file.html

[granitxhaka2]

bump

[Zeus]

No

I believe both users to be legit. I'm going to be brutally honest, since you stopped "shotbotting" yourself, you've become a very easy player to play against. You mention 2 different types of hacks, both which have entierly different functions so before anything I feel you are questioning their aim because of how easily they are killing you therefore you aren't actually entirely sure if they are using anything but actually hoping if you throw a report out there it may be a justified ban, however I disagree that either person is using a shotbot and an aimfix.

Disagreeing with my TGM's on their points they've given on the basis of the following;

Avril;

notice some failed RS - They started trolling, they are already aware what happened to someone in their clan in regards to shooting without reloading, they began to do it themselves, it's obviously apparent in the Port replay.

exact moment the opponents where in their XHairs there was an automatic shot - Good aim in general would cause this? Someone enters your crosshair, the whole point is to shoot, it's having the reaction time to hit the fire key before they leave that xhair.

sb when they stay on the floor and merely swing the XHair, specially "yongwolrang" - There wasn't any reason to try, I've mentioned above in regards to Xhaka, it's egotistical however it's very much true, "yongwolrang" clearly knows he's being recorded due to the comments expressed throughout the matches, he just plays upto them knowing he's going to be reported, more than likely to see what would happen to him, he does it to painfully obvious in Port.


Justrelax;

whenever Ragnarok's xhair was at the opponent, his shotgun fired automatically - I explained above with Avrils views on this.

he shoots the wall and manages to kill his opponent - Rewatched over and over he never shot the wall in the 2nd round and killed his opponent, I assume you mean when he killed Reg the first kill? Reg jumped along the side and Ragnorak shot up at him, regardless that would not be a sign of a shotbot in action, thats more aimfix/hitbox if something like that did happen depending on the pellets if they redirected or not.

the 4th round prior to the ending of the replay Ragnarok fails an RS as well - He was out of ammo, the oppoent was stunned he rushed in for the kill before his team mate got it, it's easily done just a unfortunate thing that he was out of ammo during that point so he began to butterfly instead however wasn't able to get the kill over his team mate.

^AReg^C, he "accidentally" fired and killed him which is seen later in his chat fail. - The whole chat fail thing is another fail purposely done, like I've said the entirer thing became pretty apparent they had no reason to continue trying vs their opponents and started to play on the fact they are being accused of shotbotting.

Also in the Port Replay it is seen YONGWOLRANG is able to wall post and shoot his enemies, whilst if he were a shotbotter, that would be impossible - Shotbotters can still wall post aslong as they have the timing down properly.

Regardless I don't believe them to be using what they've been accused of using, they are 2 players who took it upon themselves to start trolling after being accused of shotbotting (Never understood why you would say anything if you're going to report), more than likely due to the fact the things they are being accused of now with the none reloaded shots etc were examples of what their partnere was banned and now they are trying to make a "statement".

[granitxhaka2]

No

I believe both users to be legit. I'm going to be brutally honest, since you stopped "shotbotting" yourself, you've become a very easy player to play against. You mention 2 different types of hacks, both which have entierly different functions so before anything I feel you are questioning their aim because of how easily they are killing you therefore you aren't actually entirely sure if they are using anything but actually hoping if you throw a report out there it may be a justified ban, however I disagree that either person is using a shotbot and an aimfix.

Disagreeing with my TGM's on their points they've given on the basis of the following;

Avril;

notice some failed RS - They started trolling, they are already aware what happened to someone in their clan in regards to shooting without reloading, they began to do it themselves, it's obviously apparent in the Port replay.

exact moment the opponents where in their XHairs there was an automatic shot - Good aim in general would cause this? Someone enters your crosshair, the whole point is to shoot, it's having the reaction time to hit the fire key before they leave that xhair.

sb when they stay on the floor and merely swing the XHair, specially "yongwolrang" - There wasn't any reason to try, I've mentioned above in regards to Xhaka, it's egotistical however it's very much true, "yongwolrang" clearly knows he's being recorded due to the comments expressed throughout the matches, he just plays upto them knowing he's going to be reported, more than likely to see what would happen to him, he does it to painfully obvious in Port.


Justrelax;

whenever Ragnarok's xhair was at the opponent, his shotgun fired automatically - I explained above with Avrils views on this.

he shoots the wall and manages to kill his opponent - Rewatched over and over he never shot the wall in the 2nd round and killed his opponent, I assume you mean when he killed Reg the first kill? Reg jumped along the side and Ragnorak shot up at him, regardless that would not be a sign of a shotbot in action, thats more aimfix/hitbox if something like that did happen depending on the pellets if they redirected or not.

the 4th round prior to the ending of the replay Ragnarok fails an RS as well - He was out of ammo, the oppoent was stunned he rushed in for the kill before his team mate got it, it's easily done just a unfortunate thing that he was out of ammo during that point so he began to butterfly instead however wasn't able to get the kill over his team mate.

^AReg^C, he "accidentally" fired and killed him which is seen later in his chat fail. - The whole chat fail thing is another fail purposely done, like I've said the entirer thing became pretty apparent they had no reason to continue trying vs their opponents and started to play on the fact they are being accused of shotbotting.

Also in the Port Replay it is seen YONGWOLRANG is able to wall post and shoot his enemies, whilst if he were a shotbotter, that would be impossible - Shotbotters can still wall post aslong as they have the timing down properly.

Regardless I don't believe them to be using what they've been accused of using, they are 2 players who took it upon themselves to start trolling after being accused of shotbotting (Never understood why you would say anything if you're going to report), more than likely due to the fact the things they are being accused of now with the none reloaded shots etc were examples of what their partnere was banned and now they are trying to make a "statement".

rofl lol i started recording after me and reg suspect them of sbing not just me and yes i know the difference between aimfix and shotbot

[#1Chef]

My verdict: Both users are innocent of using shotbot / aimfix

After this report and watching both replays multiples times I decided to follow these users in-game and watch them play. First off lets talk about the replays you provided.

Shotbot

Any signs of shotbot apart from the RS fails and the tumbling that were clearly done purposely (I will tell you why I'm confident it was done on purpose later in the reply) by the user Ragnarok are not apparent. The swinging of the crosshair was used to aim, their aim is very good, and that will be proven in the replays I will provide later in this response. Not a large amount of failing in wall post shots, in fact their aim was pretty decent with their wall posting, no unusual shots that stood out to me, there were no instances where they were constantly slashing when faced by a user in their crosshair either.

Aimfix

To be frank, their aim is just very good, and you were easy for them to aim at, nothing more. Since you're not sure which they're using and can't specify any clear instances where the aimfix is evident, you cannot state that aimfix is being used simply because they were able to aim at you and your teamate easily.

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Here are the replays I was talking about that show clearly the users were not playing seriously vs you and when they do this is how they play, with no signs of shotbot or aimfix being used, they are simply skilful players. Feel free to go through them all if you wish.

https://www111.zippyshare.com/v/97gH8F1t/file.html
https://www111.zippyshare.com/v/QBIqHIjp/file.html
https://www111.zippyshare.com/v/257Cxpcy/file.html
https://www111.zippyshare.com/v/YPGNVg55/file.html
https://www111.zippyshare.com/v/Tw0cMHqw/file.html
https://www111.zippyshare.com/v/lNnj96Sk/file.html
https://www111.zippyshare.com/v/nteUSdIK/file.html
https://www111.zippyshare.com/v/k8yUhO4R/file.html
https://www111.zippyshare.com/v/pF4qlsmH/file.html
https://www111.zippyshare.com/v/iqMfnAmb/file.html

[justRelax]

I have reviewed the replays & vote NO on shotbot for BOTH YONGWOLRANG & Ragnarok because in general I believe those two replays provided by granitxhaka2 where suspicious, but was not enough evidence to assume that the users were using shotbot. Also, based on the replays granitxhaka2 provided I was able to determine that YONGWOLRANG was not using shotbot from the start because he swung his xhair from side to side, and not all of his shots were hits. YONGWOLRANG also moves with his opponents and aims them in accordance to their position. Also in the Port Replay it is seen that YONGWOLRANG is able to wall post and shoot his enemies, whilst if he were a shotbotter, that would be impossible. Based off of the replays provded by granitxhaka2, although Ragnarok was able to get most of his shots register as hits, there were still irregularities where the user missed a few shots, that if he were using shotbot, it would have been a hit instead. For Ragnarok, at first it seemed like he fail RS'es, however when watching the Port Replay, I see the user wall posting as well as registering his shots as hits, but if the user is wall posting, he can't be shotbotting.


After reviewing a few extra clan war matches, some of with was with Chef, I can verify my previous suspicion. (I also had my own replays but they got bugged unfortunately) In the rounds I spectated of Ragnarok, I saw him fire shots, which, not all hit and he was exhibiting a normal gameplay, which included normal wall posting.

[Castiel]

Well, after checking out the replays 10-20 times, I'll vote a NO for both, regarding sb and regarding the aimfix, regarding the SB I admit I got confused abit by the RS fails and the tumble from both but I'll recognize they're highly skilled players even though YOU went EASY on them and got killed pretty quick cause of that, they have good reactions and agreeing with my fellow Zeus it's pretty sure they can be failing RS and tumbling cause they're playing normal, manually shooting and reacting quickly, and they aren't completely used to this. Although it might be confusing but right now I think they are legit so I'll merely say that there isn't any SB active in them. I checked many details from the replays to make sure about if changing my mind or not, but I see right now watching carefully that these two users are legit and skilled, if you expect to have some more chances against them you need more speed than what we see in the replays. And as I stated before and my fellows confirmed, there isn't any kind of aimfix hacking there neither.

[granitxhaka2]

im talking about this replays not the clanwars u saw

[granitxhaka2]

https://www46.zippyshare.com/v/8Spf3dyc/file.html
https://www46.zippyshare.com/v/HaKkhvnK/file.html
im pretty sure he is suing something
drama is yongwolrang check ips

[Zeus]

im talking about this replays not the clanwars u saw

https://www46.zippyshare.com/v/8Spf3dyc/file.html

https://www46.zippyshare.com/v/HaKkhvnK/file.html
im pretty sure he is suing something
drama is yongwolrang check ips

No also I will not be checking or confirming who the player is as that does not matter to the report.

So you reported with the wrong replays? Regardless of the fact of the wrong replays the replays you have now provided you've not issued any sceenshots of ping with therefore that make those replays invalid evidence, however I've taken the time to review the replays and the user Drama is not shotbotting, he appears perfectly fine except there's spiking every now and then. You are stupidly easy to aim, when the user Gunsenpai joined the room who was able to move allot better you could tell from that point onwars expecially that there was no shotboitting involved.