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    Congratulations on the topic.
    I am a player who only plays in mission mode.
    And when I see content made with such affection this way ... it is a very beautiful thing to see.
    Congratulations! For your initiative.
    I was curious to look at your other topics.


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    Congratulations on the channel : )


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    Just took a look at this thread, can someone get in touch with the Original Poster, to add Goblin King Kong information to the thread.



    (perhaps update the other details if needed).


    Spoiler!


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    also drops need to be adjusted?

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    will try this thanks after years of offline still coming back this server cause its awesome staff and admins

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    Originally Posted by SuperKekku View Post
    also drops need to be adjusted?
    Yes. Table of drops counts for (nearly) all quests, survivals and CQ's. Probably some came from old times (like Cakram I think), probably some are missing. Exception is Scrider, the only quest where you can get Scrider's Weight Ring (+10 max weight) and Scrider's Magazine Satchel (8 clips). IMHO that was the worst change ever, explanation below.


    Class Name Damage Shop Type
    Dagger Speedy III 5 X A
    Jitte Dagger 24 X A
    Broken Bottle 25 X A
    Prince Dagger 26 X A
    Inferno 26 X A
    Elite Soldier's Dagger 27 X A
    Crystal Blade 27 X A
    Sword Insta Sword V 25 X A
    Hunter Sword 25 X A
    Sacrifice 26 X A
    PlungerX 26 X A
    ROCK 27 X A
    Shura 27 X A
    Jaws Axe 27 X A
    Freestyle Sword 27 A
    Two Handed Sword Zweihander 33 X A
    Zweihander x2 41 X A
    Lizard's Sword 33 X A
    Lizard's Sword x2 41 X A
    Great Starlight 34 X A
    Great Starlight x2 42 X A
    Kodachi (not available) A
    Pistol Iron Crow Pistol 22 X P
    Iron Crow Pistol x2 33 X P
    Golden Raven 27 X P
    Golden Raven x2 35 X P
    Bow Gun 28 X P
    Bow Gun x2 36 X P
    Ridic Hunter Pistol 29 X P
    Ridic Hunter Pistol x2 37 X P
    Revolver Zaurus B 38 X P
    Zaurus B x2 44 X P
    Dawn R45 42 X P
    Dawn R45 x2 47 X P
    Cerberus MK-2 40 X P
    Cerberus MK-2 x2 46 X P
    Dynax 800C 42 X P
    Dynax 800C x2 47 X P
    Forsaken Focus 41 X P
    Forsaken Focus x2 46 X P
    SMG Iris SMG 12 X P
    Iris SMG x2 17 X P
    Nebula SMG 14 X P
    Nebula SMG x2 20 X P
    Rifle Nexus 13 X P
    Nexus x2 19 X P
    Mini Rifle 14 X P
    Mini Rifle x2 20 X P
    Iris Rifle 14 X P
    Iris Rifle x2 20 X P
    Hell's Scream 15 X P
    Hell's Scream x2 21 X P
    Pride's Rifle 15 X P
    Pride's Rifle x2 21 X P
    Challenger Rifle 15 X P
    Challenger Rifle x2 21 X P
    Plasma Rifle 18 X P
    Plasma Rifle x2 22 X P
    Type-51 Carbine 19 X P
    Type-51 Carbine x2 23 X P
    Colt AR-15 19 X P
    Colt AR-15 x2 23 X P
    AK-47 19 X P
    AK-47 x2 23 X P
    Enforce Rifle 20 X P
    Enforce Rifle x2 24 X P
    Assault Rifle 20 X P
    Assault Rifle x2 24 X P
    MG [L] Nico MG-K8 15 X P
    Nico MG-K8 x2 25 X P
    Nico MG-K9 16 X P
    Nico MG-K9 x2 26 X P
    Nico MG-KX 17 X P
    Nico MG-KX x2 27 X P
    Nico MG-K11 18 X P
    Nico MG-K11 x2 28 X P
    Iron Crow MG 19 X P
    Iron Crow MG x2 29 X P
    Silver Nico MG 20 P
    Silver Nico MG x2 30 P
    Golden Nico MG 21 P
    Golden Nico MG x2 31 P
    MG [H] Elite Soldier's MG 20 X P
    Elite Soldier's MG x2 30 X P
    Veteran Soldier's MG 21 X P
    Veteran Soldier's MG x2 31 X P
    Binachi MG 22 X P
    Binachi MG x2 32 X P
    Incinerator MG 23 X P
    Incinerator MG x2 33 X P
    Avalanche MG 24 X P
    Avalanche MG x2 34 X P
    Madness MG 25 P
    Madness MG x2 35 P
    Golden Madness MG 26 P
    Golden Madness MG x2 36 P
    Launcher Superion's Rocket 48 X A
    Walcom L2 50 X A
    Iron Crow Rocket 52 X A
    Palmpow's Launcher 54 X A
    Nerf Launcher 60 X A
    Tuba Rocket 64 X A
    Spartan Rocket 66 X A
    CK-1 Launcher 68 X A
    Optimite Launcher 70 X A
    Grenade Launcher FG-1 68 X A
    Grenade Launcher FG-2 70 X A
    Grenade Launcher FG-3 76 X A
    Grenade Launcher FG-4 80 X A
    Grenades Canox FG-5 120 X A
    2-Hit-Kill 333 X A
    1-Hit-Kill 666 X A
    JJang Giston's Soul
    Enia's Soul
    Canopus' Soul
    Winscar's Soul
    Quest Master (Quest only)
    CQ Master (CQ only)
    Survival Master (Survival only)
    Special Scrider's Weight Ring (Scrider only)
    Scrider's Magazine Satchel (Scrider only)
    Protective clothings (are not listed individually)
    (gender specific, probability 10%)

    Shop: Available in Bounty Shop
    Type: Area/Point weapons (video/explanation will follow)

    Some remarks: TBH most of the drops are simply junk.
    Jjangs: Not influenced by Class/Level, the worst you can get is a godlike Jjang level 30 because it has the same lousy stats as a common level 0. Quest Master/CQ Master/Survival Master give you +1 max weight which is pretty pointless because the weight of a MG [H] x2 is 60, rifle x2 is 40, 1-Hit-Kill is 40, .... On Ijji +1 max weight was much but here it is completely pointless. Same counts for the protective Jjangs. They give you +1%(+2%) protection for fire/freeze/poison/lightning attacks. Compare that to the clothings, maximum is 75%, which is impossible to get, but it is easy to get something like 30% in reasonable time.
    Speedy III: Should be removed at all, only useful for people who are macroing, which is forbidden in quests. OG players get goosebumps if they just here the sound, because of the lawnmover hack which had exactly the same sound.
    ... to be continued

    Let's talk about probability:
    First weapon a quester needs is a MG [H] x2 because of total damage (explanation for total damage/dps/corrected dps, damage/weight-ratio later). In old time (read first post) you had to spam Broken Golem, probability for Avalanche x2 (was the best MG at that time) was ~33%. Because the develpers make a secret out of probability rates, lets simply assume that probability for all drops is the same (which is not correct but not really important). We have now a list with over 100 drops, means probability is less than 1% for each of them. Wait, no, we have protective clothings now with 10% probability means only 90% probability for other items means less than 0,9%. Now compare less than 0,9% to ~33%, you see the barely noticeable difference? So it doesn't matter which quest you play if every quest drop the same. What do you do now? Of course you pick the fastest quest with the easiest boss you can get. That was the end of all multi-stage quests/CQs and Survivals. e.g. no one is playing Broken Golem anymore.
    There are two (better four) items every quester really must have: Scrider's Magazine Satchel (2 times) and Scrider's weight rings (2 times). Here it is an advantage that rarity and level dont matter, because their ownage is an absolute must. Before the update the probability was ~11%, means if you play with 4 players ~2.78% for one of them. Now is the probability (because of more than 100 mostly useless drops) less than ~0.9% (with 4 players ~0.225%). Now let's calculate vice versa, means how many times you have to win(not play!) Scrider to get these 4 items? Before the update it was 100/2.78~36 times for one item, means ~144 times for 4 items (with 4 players). Now it is 100/0.225~444 times for one item, means ~1778 times for 4 items.
    ... to be continued (edited)

    Let's talk about balancing:
    Is now completely off. Rifles are useless now. Pistols are now better than Revolvers in dps and total damage.
    ... to be continued (edited)

    DPS: Damage per second. A fast firing gun (low delay) has higher dps. Let's compare H- and L-MG to make it more clearly.
    We take the best guns you can get, means
    Golden Madness MG x2 (120ms, dmg 36, max pve 160) against Goldeen Nico MG x2 (100ms, dmg 31, max pve 137).
    In one second you have 8 shots with the Madness and 10 shots with a Nico means,
    Madness: 8(per second)*160(dmg)=1280dps
    Nico: 10(per second)*137dmg=1370dps
    Surprise, the Nico has higher dps than the Madness although the damage/pve is lower. Where do you need high dps? All quests where you have to kill NPCs first, like Scrider, TGK, DGK, Pages, CQs, Survivals, ...
    Of course this is not correct, because the L-MGs have 120 bullets and the H-MGs have 160, means with L-MGs you have to reload more often, so the dps is dropping if you calculate for e.g. a minute instead for a second.
    ... to be continued (edited)

    Total damage: This is the maximum damage you can deal with all your ammunition (short: ammo). For the big bosses with a lot of xp you need a lot of ammo and pve, e.g. GKK has 192k HP/AP and BP has 330k HP/AP.
    Let's take the best gun you can get from (bounty) shop, Avalanche MG x2, dmg 34, bullets 2x160, two times Magazine Pouch V from shop 16x160, Scrider's Magazine Satchel 18x160.
    2x160x34=10880
    16x160x34=87040
    18x160x34=97920
    These total damages assume that you have a 100% hit rate which is impossible to obtain. On short range you can reach ~90%, on long range 40-70% depends on range and your aim. So its completely impossible to kill GKK without additional ammo with weapons from shop (solo). Even worse is BP, impossible with 4 players and weapons from shop.
    Last edited by ILoveQuests; 10-16-2022 at 12:35 PM.
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    Originally Posted by justRelax View Post
    Just took a look at this thread, can someone get in touch with the Original Poster, to add Goblin King Kong information to the thread.


    Goblin King Kong
    HP/AP: ~192000
    Reward: 2100000 XP + 19200 BP
    Drops: see table above

    Edit: Did it some time ago and it was around 132000 HP/AP duo. Either they changed the HP/AP again or it is still a bug in damage counter. Damage depends on how many player are inside the room. Did it solo and damage now was 192091, video will follow.

    Edit 2: Exclusive now on FGunZ until music will be added. Final version will be on my Youtube channel.

    Last edited by ILoveQuests; 10-15-2022 at 10:11 AM. Reason: corrected xp and bp without bonus
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    Started collecting more detailed and actual HP/AP values for the bosses.

    Map Name ~HP/AP
    Mansion Dwarf Goblin King 16900
    Fake Goblin King 17000
    Palmpow Commander 23800
    School Quest 26400
    Goblin King 29300
    Thunder Goblin King 32300
    Zombie Queen I 40000
    Zombie King I 49600
    Goblin King Kong 192000
    Prison Palmpow 25500
    Giant Lizardman 30000
    Zombie Queen II 43200
    Broken Golem 54000
    Dungeon Superion 20400
    Aneramon 23600
    Cursed Palmpow 28400
    Lich 38200
    Boss Party 330000

    Many thanks to Spylent for luring the NPC's away.
    Last edited by ILoveQuests; 07-30-2022 at 12:01 PM.
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    Protective Clothing


    Class Formula Base % increase each level Max. %
    Common na 0% na na
    Uncommon na na na na
    Rare na na na na
    Epic na na na na
    Legendary Protection[%]=6.8%+0.0667%*LEVEL 6.8% 0.0667% 8.8%
    Mythical Protection[%]=8.9%+0.0867%*LEVEL 8.9% 0.0867% 11.5%
    Godlike Protection[%]=11.6%+0.1133%*LEVEL 11.6% 0.1133% 15%


    Green colors indicate estimated or guessed numbers. Need level 0 and 30 for other classes. Post them here or send them via Discord to ILoveQuests(doublecross)9619
    Last edited by ILoveQuests; 10-16-2022 at 12:34 PM. Reason: added numbers for Legendary and Mythical
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