[S] [H] [L] shotguns

[Avenge]

Just listen to yourself lmao

Garden TDM 24/7 *shrug*

[Shang]

WHAT U SHOOOOUUULDDDDDDD do is disable the TDM function so everyone can cw and make it a comp based server again. Idk. Just a nudge to make players cw more

Gain 5-10 people lose 40+ best idea ever. U can't force people to play competitively. If you remove TDM they will just play some other modes, or even worse, go to other servers.

[Traumatiser]

Hey dont readd R IA please. it's bad enough that you the occasional CW here and there but it's ONLY a large garden room, 1-3 atk n def rooms, 1-3 duel rooms, 1 training, and that's it. If it was to be re implemented, it should ONLY apply to Training rooms. Not TEAM training(cuz then they'll gladly make rooms just to spam zzz) but training rooms.

the L/H/S notion makes no difference. Changing it means nothing. Keeping things at 1000 delay keeps it SKILL based. Especially with the new shotgun spread being added that would be horrific.. Literally spamming at 850 delay getting pbs from mid range. McSic + Dave, take it from someone who gives a dam about competition.... You're doing fine with just adjusting the antilead/sg spread situation.

WHAT U SHOOOOUUULDDDDDDD do is disable the TDM function so everyone can cw and make it a comp based server again. Idk. Just a nudge to make players cw more

agreed with everything til last sentence while I do think cw can be fun for most, like me a person who hasnt played competitively or cared enough to try hard to cw since like a few years this is just dumb but yeah everythin else you said is true

[R] [IA] was always just full of garden tdms 1k rounds.

but yeah

[Avenge]

Gain 5-10 people lose 40+ best idea ever. U can't force people to play competitively. If you remove TDM they will just play some other modes, or even worse, go to other servers.

nono i say that to emphasize a way for more cws some way some how lol... no one cws even with the opportunity of top 1 to 3 ranked clans getting coins... idk

[Legit]

From my understanding a big reason why people arent into comp in fgunz is sg delays and sg balancing.

so for balances heres an idea.

[L]
lvl 99
6/5 ammo
8 dmg
850 delay

donor
6/5
8dmg
800 delay.

[M]
lvl 99
5/5
9dmg
900 delay

donor
5/5
9
850

[H]
lvl 99
2/5
11
1000

donor
3/5
11
1000

and
2/5
11
900

LB and LBX
6/5
9dmg
850 or 900

really the lower the delays we can get the more competitive scene will be intrigued

[McSic]

From my understanding a big reason why people arent into comp in fgunz is sg delays and sg balancing.

so for balances heres an idea.

[L]
lvl 99
6/5 ammo
8 dmg
850 delay

donor
6/5
8dmg
800 delay.

[M]
lvl 99
5/5
9dmg
900 delay

donor
5/5
9
850

[H]
lvl 99
2/5
11
1000

donor
3/5
11
1000

and
2/5
11
900

LB and LBX
6/5
9dmg
850 or 900

really the lower the delays we can get the more competitive scene will be intrigued

Stating my opinion and opening this thread for more opinions:
I think the competitive scene actually doesn't want delays lower than 1000. Pros don't really want shotguns with 850 delay and 6 clips.

[Notorious]

Limit breaker - 9dmg / 5 clip/950 delay
limit breaker x - 8 dmg / 6 clip/1000 delay

200coin sg - 8dmg / 5 clip / 950 delay
100coin sg - 8 dmg / 5 clip / 1050 delay

lvl99 sg - 8dmg/5clip/1100 delay

[Hc Spiderman]

Stating my opinion and opening this thread for more opinions:
I think the competitive scene actually doesn't want delays lower than 1000. Pros don't really want shotguns with 850 delay and 6 clips.

Since there are no pros left, I think you could consider adding them to the normal rooms than, and like "lock" them out of cw.

[Mike]

Since there are no pros left, I think you could consider adding them to the normal rooms than, and like "lock" them out of cw.

You initiante are wrong. He means competitive players, not the training room warriors.

[Bunny]

Since there are no pros left, I think you could consider adding them to the normal rooms than, and like "lock" them out of cw.

Cant have the "pro scene" of a game be a different game with different balance than non-pro.