View Poll Results: Remove vials from CW

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    Looked back at the replays I came up with the following changes (just to give you an idea, it can still be changed).


    Acceleration Vial v1
    • Level: 0 » 30
    • Speed: 120 » 105%
    • Time: 5000 » 2500 ms
    • Ammo: 2/2 » 3/3
    • Bounty: 2 » 10




    Acceleration Vial v2
    • Level: 25 » 60
    • Speed: 120 » 110%
    • Time: 5000 » 3000 ms
    • Ammo: 3/3 » 4/4
    • Bounty: 10 » 25




    Acceleration Vial v3
    • Level: 50 » 90
    • Speed: 120 » 115%
    • Time: 5000 » 3500 ms
    • Ammo: 4/4 » 5/5
    • Bounty: 20 » 50

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    Originally Posted by StephanM View Post
    Looked back at the replays I came up with the following changes (just to give you an idea, it can still be changed).


    Acceleration Vial v1
    • Level: 0 » 30
    • Speed: 120 » 105%
    • Time: 5000 » 2500 ms
    • Ammo: 2/2 » 3/3
    • Bounty: 2 » 10




    Acceleration Vial v2
    • Level: 25 » 60
    • Speed: 120 » 110%
    • Time: 5000 » 3000 ms
    • Ammo: 3/3 » 4/4
    • Bounty: 10 » 25




    Acceleration Vial v3
    • Level: 50 » 90
    • Speed: 120 » 115%
    • Time: 5000 » 3500 ms
    • Ammo: 4/4 » 5/5
    • Bounty: 20 » 50
    The replay provided has donor vials used. The nornal vials are already shit compared to the donors. I think 120% ms is negligble compared to the like 180% of donors.

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    Originally Posted by Bunny View Post
    The replay provided has donor vials used. The nornal vials are already shit compared to the donors. I think 120% ms is negligble compared to the like 180% of donors.
    Oh yeah right I forgot about donation ones, based off those (which have 160%, not 180%) I did some quick changes, note that these are just crunching number.. perhaps these will be the balance changes.. maybe not, no promises.


    Acceleration Vial v1
    • Level: 0 » 25
    • Speed: 120 » 115%
    • Time: 5000 » 4000 ms
    • Ammo: 2/2 » 3/3
    • Bounty: 2 » 10




    Acceleration Vial v2
    • Level: 25 » 50
    • Speed: 120% (unchanged)
    • Time: 5000 » 4500 ms
    • Ammo: 3/3 » 4/4
    • Bounty: 10 » 20




    Acceleration Vial v3
    • Level: 50 » 75
    • Speed: 120 » 125%
    • Time: 5000 ms (unchanged)
    • Ammo: 4/4 » 5/5
    • Bounty: 20 » 30




    Ultimate Acceleration Vial
    • Level: 0 (unchanged)
    • Speed: 160 » 150%
    • Time: 15000 » 5000 ms
    • Delay: 1000 » 2000ms
    • Ammo: (unchanged)
    Last edited by StephanM; 03-09-2020 at 01:31 PM.

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    i dont know about you guys but I would rather play against someone with vial on than without. vial = free kills if u can aim

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    Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    they actually do require a bit of skill, not many ppl can handle using vials especially in cw.
    I vote no change
    When I've been using the vials I've found myself getting killed much faster because I simply couldn't control my shots & playstyle while using them.
    They take effort to adjust to, but even so they're not much of an offender since they're rarely being used by players.
    Sם I also say no change, for now at least.
    ''I sure do love to pkick indians" - Raphael 2k19

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    Originally Posted by StephanM View Post
    Oh yeah right I forgot about donation ones, based off those (which have 160%, not 180%) I did some quick changes, note that these are just crunching number.. perhaps these will be the balance changes.. maybe not, no promises.

    Acceleration Vial v1
    • Level: 0 » 25
    • Speed: 120 » 115%
    • Time: 5000 » 4000 ms
    • Ammo: 2/2 » 3/3
    • Bounty: 2 » 10


    Acceleration Vial v2
    • Level: 25 » 50
    • Speed: 120% (unchanged)
    • Time: 5000 » 4500 ms
    • Ammo: 3/3 » 4/4
    • Bounty: 10 » 20


    Acceleration Vial v3
    • Level: 50 » 75
    • Speed: 120 » 125%
    • Time: 5000 ms (unchanged)
    • Ammo: 4/4 » 5/5
    • Bounty: 20 » 30


    Ultimate Acceleration Vial
    • Level: 0 (unchanged)
    • Speed: 160 » 150%
    • Time: 15000 » 5000 ms
    • Delay: 1000 » 2000ms
    • Ammo: (unchanged)
    Near final changes that probably will go through (added 2 more level purchases, levels, ammo, delay and such).
    TLDR on donation changes; 10% less speed, 10 sec less duration.


    Acceleration Vial I
    • Level: 20
    • Speed: 110%
    • Time: 3 sec
    • Delay: 3000
    • Ammo: 2/2
    • Bounty: 10


    Acceleration Vial II
    • Level: 40
    • Speed: 115%
    • Time: 3.5 sec
    • Delay: 3000
    • Ammo: 3/3
    • Bounty: 20


    Acceleration III
    • Level: 60
    • Speed: 120%
    • Time: 4 sec
    • Delay: 3000
    • Ammo: 4/4
    • Bounty: 30


    Acceleration IV
    • Level: 80
    • Speed: 125%
    • Time: 4.5 sec
    • Delay: 3000
    • Ammo: 5/5
    • Bounty: 40


    Acceleration V
    • Level: 99
    • Speed: 130%
    • Time: 5 sec
    • Delay: 3000
    • Ammo: 6/6
    • Bounty: 50


    Ultimate Acceleration Vial
    • Level: 0
    • Speed: 150%
    • Time: 5 sec
    • Delay: 2000
    • Ammo: 10/300
    • Coins: 100
    Last edited by StephanM; 03-10-2020 at 11:37 AM.

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    Originally Posted by StephanM View Post
    Near final changes that probably will go through (added 2 more level purchases, levels, ammo, delay and such).
    TLDR on donation changes; 10% less speed, 10 sec less duration.


    Acceleration Vial I
    • Level: 20
    • Speed: 110%
    • Time: 3 sec
    • Delay: 3000
    • Ammo: 2/2
    • Bounty: 10


    Acceleration Vial II
    • Level: 40
    • Speed: 115%
    • Time: 3.5 sec
    • Delay: 3000
    • Ammo: 3/3
    • Bounty: 20


    Acceleration III
    • Level: 60
    • Speed: 120%
    • Time: 4 sec
    • Delay: 3000
    • Ammo: 4/4
    • Bounty: 30


    Acceleration IV
    • Level: 80
    • Speed: 125%
    • Time: 4.5 sec
    • Delay: 3000
    • Ammo: 5/5
    • Bounty: 40


    Acceleration V
    • Level: 99
    • Speed: 130%
    • Time: 5 sec
    • Delay: 3000
    • Ammo: 6/6
    • Bounty: 50


    Ultimate Acceleration Vial
    [LIST][*]Level: 0[*]Speed: 150%[*]Time: 5 sec[*]Delay: 2000[*]Ammo: 10/300[*]Coins: 100
    Why would u decrease donation vials' time by 10 seconds?
    I think what makes them unique is their speed and they last longer than normal ones.
    Nerfing them like that will make them useless and aint worth spending coins on them
    Last edited by Zabu; 03-10-2020 at 12:05 PM.

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    Originally Posted by Zabu View Post
    Why would u decrease donation vials' time by 10 seconds?
    I think what makes them unique is their speed and they last longer than normal ones.
    Nerfing them like that will make them useless and aint worth spending coins on them
    To make them slightly better as bounty version, they would still give 20% more movement speed and you could use 4 more vials per game vs the proposed lvl 99 ones.
    If they would stay at 15 seconds that would mean 1 donation vial lasts as long as 3 99 ones, 1 full set of 99 would be equal of 2 donation vials with 20% less speed, quite OP if you'd ask me.

    The idea behind this is to balance it a tad more, but these are not final numbers. Can always push the duration up to 7.5 or 10, but 15 is way too much.

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    In my opinion just remove them completely from cw, just like mines, they are equally annoying

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    keep the vial the way it is.
    remove it only from cw.
    best for all worlds

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