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    WildPanda's Avatar I tried.. I failed myself

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    Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    While I agree with most of what you said. You should be held responsible for your own actions. You cant accidentally macro in gunz. You either didn't read the rules (which you agreed to) or you chose to ignore them. Either way getting banned for such actions is not excessive in my opinion. However I do not think permanent bans are really in place for first time offenders
    I never said for first time offenders.. I said if they continue to do it?
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    Originally Posted by Simba View Post
    I never said for first time offenders.. I said if they continue to do it?
    My bad I thought you supported the warning system. I read too hastily~~
    Yeah in that case I entirely agree. No warning X weeks ban for first time. And next time baibai 3-6 months

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    Originally Posted by Tom View Post
    The server had already learned from the past. Being too strict and giving mutes/warnings to every newbie that doesn't know the rules, that's what made the player-count low in the last few years. For example, requiring F11 replays for every report which is related to a harasser/flamer shows the improvement of the server's actions, and so on.
    The server hasn't learned a damn thing. We have never been strict if I'm completely honest here. We are giving hackers and cheaters multiple chances because ''They might've learned their lessons now''. We all know who I mean by saying this, but he is not the only one.

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    Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal...28sociology%29 You might learn something today buddy. Read that and understand why it isn't harmless


    First of all, no, macro can't be considered as a hack. Hack is way too different to this, it's stupid call it as a hack. Now, depending on the game it can be considering as cheating, and here's where Gunz enter. Yeah, this is mostly cheating, but actually i don't think these should be considered as hard as a REAL hack.

    -Okay so lets be really fair here, I'll give it to you macroing isnt hacking. Most shotbots arent hacks. They're just cheats.
    Are u kidding right? Shotbot is soooo different from macro. As i said, macro can't be considered as a hack because it's different, and with this i mean that Macro was made for the mouses and for x games. In these games macro isn't even considered as a cheat.

    Now, shotbot should be programmed for each game, and the guy who makes it upload it to internet or he keeps it for himself. Shotbot even modify the game itself for give u adventage, while macro all what does is fastly press any key automatically and at any order, it doesn't modify the game for gives u adventage. And all hacks are like this, they all modify ur game for gives u adventage, like aimbot, shotbot, x-ray, etc.

    Of course, the way that macro can be used could give u adventage, but that already have a punishment in pvp, and if y'all want you guys can suggest to give a better punishment for players that use macros in pvp (or annoy ppl in training rooms).
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    Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    My bad I thought you supported the warning system. I read too hastily~~
    Yeah in that case I entirely agree. No warning X weeks ban for first time. And next time baibai 3-6 months
    I support the warning system, in the form of:

    1st offence: warning
    2nd offence: 14 day ban
    3rd offence: permanent ban

    Similar to the way Riot do their "toxicity system"
    - You get a chat ban, then a 14 day ban & if you still don't learn, your account is locked for 100 years.
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    Originally Posted by Shang View Post
    Macro doesn't give u an advantage? Am I reading this correctly?
    did u even read all?
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    Originally Posted by Shang View Post
    Originally Posted by Sinon View Post
    Of course, the way that macro can be used could give u adventage, but that already have a punishment in pvp, and if y'all want you guys can suggest to give a better punishment for players that use macros in pvp (or annoy ppl in training rooms).
    Want it even more bigger for u can read?
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    Originally Posted by Sinon View Post
    Want it even more bigger for u can read?
    I cant see red text, u can make it as big as u like =]

    And there is not better punishment. Banning is perfect :]

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    Originally Posted by Sinon View Post
    Are u kidding right? Shotbot is soooo different from macro. As i said, macro can't be considered as a hack because it's different, and with this i mean that Macro was made for the mouses and for x games. In these games macro isn't even considered as a cheat.

    Now, shotbot should be programmed for each game, and the guy who makes it upload it to internet or he keeps it for himself. Shotbot even modify the game itself for give u adventage, while macro all what does is fastly press any key automatically and at any order, it doesn't modify the game for gives u adventage. And all hacks are like this, they all modify ur game for gives u adventage, like aimbot, shotbot, x-ray, etc.

    Of course, the way that macro can be used could give u adventage, but that already have a punishment in pvp, and if y'all want you guys can suggest to give a better punishment for players that use macros in pvp (or annoy ppl in training rooms).

    Are u kidding right? Shotbot is soooo different from macro. As i said, macro can't be considered as a hack because it's different, and with this i mean that Macro was made for the mouses and for x games. In these games macro isn't even considered as a cheat.
    1. Most shotbots dont modify the code of the game at all. And thus arent hacks but rather cheats.

    Now, shotbot should be programmed for each game, and the guy who makes it upload it to internet or he keeps it for himself. Shotbot even modify the game itself for give u adventage, while macro all what does is fastly press any key automatically and at any order, it doesn't modify the game for gives u adventage. And all hacks are like this, they all modify ur game for gives u adventage, like aimbot, shotbot, x-ray, etc.
    Refer to point one (1)
    2. All a shotbot does is press a key when a certain parameter is fulfilled.

    Of course, the way that macro can be used could give u adventage, but that already have a punishment in pvp, and if y'all want you guys can suggest to give a better punishment for players that use macros in pvp (or annoy ppl in training rooms).

    3. There's a thing called normalization. If you were a player and you saw people using hacks all the time you would start doing it too even outside of those rooms. This is what happened with ijji during the Witch era. Everyone started cheating and literally killed the server.

    i cba to proofread anything at this point. I'ma just let it all out kk

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    Originally Posted by Sinon View Post
    It should depends tbh. For example:

    Training: No punishment.
    Quest/CQ: No punishment.
    TDM: Permanent warning.
    Duel: Permanent warning.
    Turbo: Permanent warning.
    Clan Wars/Gladiator Clan Wars: Ban for 1 month.
    Tournament: Ban for 3 months.

    If permanent warning isn't enough, then maybe ban for 1 week.
    Why would you allow macro's in Quest/CQ?

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