Make macros bannable.

[LostX]

Banning for macro? it's not sound good, a permanent warning is much better.

It should depends tbh. For example:

Training: No punishment.
Quest/CQ: No punishment.
TDM: Permanent warning.
Duel: Permanent warning.
Turbo: Permanent warning.
Clan Wars/Gladiator Clan Wars: Ban for 1 month.
Tournament: Ban for 3 months.

If permanent warning isn't enough, then maybe ban for 1 week.

[Awful]

It should depends tbh. For example:

Training: No punishment.
Quest/CQ: No punishment.
TDM: Permanent warning.
Duel: Permanent warning.
Turbo: Permanent warning.
Clan Wars/Gladiator Clan Wars: Ban for 1 month.
Tournament: Ban for 3 months.

If permanent warning isn't enough, then maybe ban for 1 week.

Let me fix that for you.


Training: Ban for 3 months.
Quest/CQ: Ban for 3 months.
TDM: Ban for 3 months.
Duel: Ban for 3 months.
Turbo: Ban for 3 months.
Clan Wars/Gladiator Clan Wars: Ban for 3 months.
Tournament: Banned for life.

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The only valid argument for macros to not be bannable would have to come from the Devs/staff saying that macro is too difficult for them to detect and thus we can not pass judgement that we are not certain about. That's quite literally the only reason I could see why macros wouldnt be bannable.

[TomasEdison]

It should depends tbh. For example:

Training: No punishment.
Quest/CQ: No punishment.
TDM: Permanent warning.
Duel: Permanent warning.
Turbo: Permanent warning.
Clan Wars/Gladiator Clan Wars: Ban for 1 month.
Tournament: Ban for 3 months.

If permanent warning isn't enough, then maybe ban for 1 week.

I fully agree with what you wrote, but one thing which's still controversial, in my opinion, is about training rooms. We all know you don't gain EXP in this mode so, why not allow it. However, the main problem is that there are players who take advantage of it to hunt other players, and it's either annoying or disturbing. In case a player is caught and reported for abusing Macro in training rooms on a player who didn't allow him to use it on him, a punishment should be given as well as in the other game modes.

[Awful]

I fully agree with what you wrote, but one thing which's still controversial, in my opinion, is about training rooms. We all know you don't gain EXP in this mode so, why not allow it. However, the main problem is that there are players who take advantage of it to hunt other players, and it's either annoying or disturbing. In case a player is caught and reported for abusing Macro in training rooms on a player who didn't allow him to use it on him, a punishment should be given as well as in the other game modes.

I'm actually curious. Why shouldnt macroing just be flat out bannable? Is there any defence for it. Or is it just your opinion out of ignorance?

[ParisRS]

I fully agree with what you wrote, but one thing which's still controversial, in my opinion, is about training rooms. We all know you don't gain EXP in this mode so, why not allow it. However, the main problem is that there are players who take advantage of it to hunt other players, and it's either annoying or disturbing. In case a player is caught and reported for abusing Macro in training rooms on a player who didn't allow him to use it on him, a punishment should be given as well as in the other game modes.

Its not about XP or gaining advantage, its about the principal of allowing a hack, should be 3 month ban regardless of the mode.

Also, the last months people are constantly being reported for it, they dont learn anyway, might aswell remove them from the game entirely

[TomasEdison]

I'm actually curious. Why shouldnt macroing just be flat out bannable? Is there any defence for it. Or is it just your opinion out of ignorance?

Its not about XP or gaining advantage, its about the principal of allowing a hack, should be 3 month ban regardless of the mode.

Also, the last months people are constantly being reported for it, they dont learn anyway, might aswell remove them from the game entirely

Don't get me wrong. I agree that using macro should be bannable as well as using UC/OC, etc. However, if using macro would have been flatted out bannable, it might decrease the player-count per day. Sticking extremely and strictly to the rules or aggravating the rules don't bring joy for this game for sure. Also, I agree that in the last few months warnings were given incessantly but, automatic banishments are not a better solution nor the best one.

[ParisRS]

Don't get me wrong. I agree that using macro should be bannable as well as using UC/OC, etc. However, if using macro would have been flatted out bannable, it might decrease the player-count per day. Sticking extremely and strictly to the rules or aggravating the rules don't bring joy for this game for sure. Also, I agree that in the last few months warnings were given incessantly but, automatic banishments are not a better solution nor the best one.

Nobody misses hackers, look at zoro for example🍆. I know that macros are somewhat less "impactful" than for example an OC/UC. In training rooms I get it might be fun to dash around, but, on the other hand, I strongly believe allowing hacking shouldn't be a thing, and yes, macros are simply a hack, but less harmful than an OC/UC.

[Shang]

I fully agree with what you wrote, but one thing which's still controversial, in my opinion, is about training rooms. We all know you don't gain EXP in this mode so, why not allow it. However, the main problem is that there are players who take advantage of it to hunt other players, and it's either annoying or disturbing. In case a player is caught and reported for abusing Macro in training rooms on a player who didn't allow him to use it on him, a punishment should be given as well as in the other game modes.

Thats like saying we can use godmode and lawnmower hacks in training rooms cause they arent getting exp anyway.

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Let me fix that for you.


Training: Ban for 3 months.
Quest/CQ: Ban for 3 months.
TDM: Ban for 3 months.
Duel: Ban for 3 months.
Turbo: Ban for 3 months.
Clan Wars/Gladiator Clan Wars: Ban for 3 months.
Tournament: Banned for life.

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The only valid argument for macros to not be bannable would have to come from the Devs/staff saying that macro is too difficult for them to detect and thus we can not pass judgement that we are not certain about. That's quite literally the only reason I could see why macros wouldnt be bannable.

Agreed

[TomasEdison]

Thats like saying we can use godmode and lawnmower hacks in training rooms cause they arent getting exp anyway.

There is a HUGE difference between using a Godemode and Macro. You and some others consider Macro as a hack, but there are people like me who don't. Stop comparing Macro to different hacks because this discussion will never end nor will have any solution. The main point of this thread is if Macro users should be banned as well as shotbot and hitbox users.
To make it clear, using hacks in training room isn't allowed and we all know that - It's not allowed at all. Using Macro in training rooms is also punishable as long as you didn't allow the certain player to use it. You're ignoring the main details, and the request of "banning macro users" will never be accepted. Once again, the staff team definitely prefers players more than worthless rules and regulations that have zero significance and that is legitimate.

[Shang]

Using Macro in training rooms is also punishable as long as you didn't allow the certain player to use it.[/U]

Tell me what u mean with certain players please.