Fix the toxic daggers or give the ability to ban them in Glad

[Qwin]

I helped suggesting balance FG in the past with weapon classes, but since v8 this server has gone downhill completely in many ways.

For years glads had told the staff about a bug that made someone looking 90 degrees up completely invincible and this was never fixed until the glad community as a whole had already abandoned FG. I bring that up because now glads were giving the server a chance again, but now starting to talk about dropping FG again due to word of mouth of this NEW problem caused by the staff and the bias (yet again).


This year in April FG gave everyone 23+ dmg swords and kodachis, (only part of that has been addressed) and introduced a completely busted version of 'daggers'. These 'daggers' are toxic in every way imaginable to the community as a whole and this is FGs fault, and yet players on both ends have to suffer because of it for no good reason. Well now we're at a boiling point where people are being kicked or IP banned over it because its OK to punish glads for wanting to play glad according to FGs GMs.


Gladiator Players have always kicked or barred something toxic to the gameplay. Is this a hard concept to understand?

• 200+ ping -> Kicked or barred
• Spike -> Kicked or barred
• Flip -> Kicked or barred
• OP Element -> Kicked or barred
• Excessive Pedal -> Kicked or barred
• Running -> Kicked or barred
• Lsword -> Kicked or barred
• TK -> Kicked or barred
• Nonbow -> Kicked or barred
• Piss/Donor -> Kicked or barred
• FGs new long-range hyper-fast super-powered 'daggers' now get the same treatment -> Kicked or barred

1. Either fix these 'daggers' and re-balance them as they are inherently broken
2. Give them the ability to be banned from game creation like SGO, and how Glad mode disables elements and flips
3. or stop abiding by favoritism with whining donors and rein in your staff with this clear bias bending the rules to ban glads. People have been kicked from glad rooms for all of the above and not a single one of them ever reported anyone, until now with obnoxious 'dagger' trolls who have no respect for community rules and overblown ego since April.

[Moh]

The reports were abusing a kick function. It was a targeted and clear attack on a single player. I'm sinbad in game,there are records that show an instant kick every attempt at joining a gladiator game. In terms of duel matches i have been kicked before even spawning into the match. How was i kicked before spawning you might ask. Well even when you take the lowest level dagger to even the playing field it's simply not enough. I believe i am the only reason why there should be a dagger nerf. I believe they are too strong and need reduction in damage. Although i will STILL beat any and every gladiator. Even with blocking. No one is trolling with daggers,sworders are a little upset someone else is winning. Sorry for changing the meta so fast on you.

If what i say isnt true; show me someone else who is streaking everyday with daggers.
Show me someone who streams out smarting sworders everyday.
Like i said i accept the challenge.

[WildPanda]

The reports were abusing a kick function. It was a targeted and clear attack on a single player. I'm sinbad in game,there are records that show an instant kick every attempt at joining a gladiator game. In terms of duel matches i have been kicked before even spawning into the match. How was i kicked before spawning you might ask. Well even when you take the lowest level dagger to even the playing field it's simply not enough. I believe i am the only reason why there should be a dagger nerf. I believe they are too strong and need reduction in damage. Although i will STILL beat any and every gladiator. Even with blocking. No one is trolling with daggers,sworders are a little upset someone else is winning. Sorry for changing the meta so fast on you.

If what i say isnt true; show me someone else who is streaking everyday with daggers.
Show me someone who streams out smarting sworders everyday.
Like i said i accept the challenge.

I'd probably insta-kick you too, before you absolutely ruin my day with your stabby stick.
You're the reason I both Love & Hate to watch d-stylers.

[Moh]

Also watch this stream i saved and tell me how daggers are trolling.
http://www.twitch.tv/sinbad1337/v/61...5?sr=a&t=1805s

[AnnaLOVESYOU]

I will only say this. Swords can block Daggers can't, you call yourself a gladder and can't block a dagger? Get out!!!

[Moh]

I will only say this. Swords can block Daggers can't, you call yourself a gladder and can't block a dagger? Get out!!!

Agreed,we also have to charge a massive instead of blocking to receive one instantly.

So daggers cant block and they cant massive as much.

Anyone can counter daggers by ground slashing an approach. The people who time ground slash and then proceed to massive chain win.

But yes,ban daggers from glad because they're op.

[Qwin]

The reports were abusing a kick function. It was a targeted and clear attack on a single player. I'm sinbad in game,there are records that show an instant kick every attempt at joining a gladiator game.

Wrong. You and the GMs making up your own rules and you are both going to do more harm to a global community with your incessant whining getting players banned because they dont want to play with broken items.

If you're SinBad then clearly no one likes you because you come into games and antagonize an entire community, and now going out of your way to get people banned so I will call you a troll. I will be blunt, people are already talking about leaving FG over this shitshow by the staff if it continues in that direction, which would be a shame as glads are finally becoming active on FG again.

Gladiators want to play Gladiator, get it?
who is better on equal footing or at the least without being a colossal waste of time. Yet now glads are being held at gunpoint to put up with a snowflake forced on them by bad GMs and abused due to someone who wont abide by community's rules that are understood and shared globally for over a decade. It's pathetic how an entire community is being threatened, warned or banned over someones hurt feelings because they chose to play with something that 100+ users agree is overpowered and does not want to play.

In terms of duel matches i have been kicked before even spawning into the match. How was i kicked before spawning you might ask. Well even when you take the lowest level dagger to even the playing field it's simply not enough.

I don't blame you I blame the staff but even the lowest level of dagger is still toxic, so you will still be kicked when you refuse to grab a sword because of how stupid it is for everyone else to be expected to put up with it.

If you have refused to grab a sword time after time for weeks or longer then you have no one to blame but yourself, everyone knows what to expect and you have no defense for why you are kicked because you will never play with a sword so lets stop pretending.

[Qwin]

I will only say this. Swords can block Daggers can't, you call yourself a gladder and can't block a dagger? Get out!!!

Since April they do not have 'equal footing' as a sword on FG, thats a meme by ignorant players and staff such as yourself. Neither is the con of not being able to block have any validity in this argument, or needing to charge a massive manually when weighed against everything else.

Let's have a look at just how many problems these 'daggers' have

• Since April even the minimal lowest level 'daggers' are now stronger than a sword with absurd delay dps and can outpace a donor sword.
• Combined with a dash they can have nearly the range of an Lsword and easily outrange a sword
• They are more or equally as busted as any element or flip, as 2-3 hits within less than a second can take a serious chunk out of hp.
• While original daggers did, these require no skill what so ever to avoid recoil
• Easier to kite massives than a sword, with minimal effort spamming left click at safe distance
• Even after being massived and 2-3 slashes, can still do more damage by spamming click and dashing out
• In team fights the side with a 'dagger' on their side is more likely to win
• Since lunge damage is dictated by dagger damage, this makes all lunges and elunges stupidly overpowered as
  well since the buff.
• Can juggle someone in the air due to how low delay and long it is, making it more OP than a flip with a sword

Why is it OK for glad to ban elements but not 'daggers' which are more or as toxic than elements?
Why is it OK for glad to ban flips but not 'daggers' which are more toxic than flips?
Why is it OK for glad to ban piss/tank but not 'daggers' which are more toxic?

If you cant give any answer besides BUT IT CANT BLOCK then it says enough of your bias.

[Tenax]

I will only say this. Swords can block Daggers can't, you call yourself a gladder and can't block a dagger? Get out!!!

It is kind of difficult now so no, you can't simply "block" it. Daggers are OP. Which they will be nerfed anyway, thank God.
And you have a point about people kicking peddlers who are stalling, or laggers, spikers or whatnot.
Kicking people with element is no longer an option since you have the Glad option.
And kicking people who are using daggers, is like me being kicked from a duel room for using sprayer. ( Which I do because I aim better with sprayers. Not to troll.) That's bs. Maybe that player plays only with daggers too.
However, using a certain tag to limit certain weapons just like they do with gunners, isn't that bad, but then again, it isn't necessary too, seeing that daggers are going to be nerfed and not many players use them.

[Deviok]

Allow me to administer a dose of reality, Sinbad. No one is attacking you or afraid of you, they just don't want to play with you because you're annoying and boring to fight. And no, you can't beat every gladiator. Try 1v1ing someone in a fight where you both die in an equal amount of hits and see how that goes. The only reason you don't see people streaking in gladiator duel rooms with a dagger is because you're the only one willing to tank up and cheese wins against people with a broken weapon using a style that no one cares to try against.