Elo by dmg in cw

[Eran]

Suggestion type:
Forum/FGunZ/Other


Suggestion description:
Sometimes in clanwars you play with unfair teams and I don't think it makes much sense to lose elo because of your team so I thought it would make more sense to make it like if you have 3k elo you have to deal 300 or more dmg a round and if you deal less you lose elo, deal more - gain elo.
for example
1k elo - 100 dmg + to gain elo, less than 100 dmg - lose elo
2k elo - 200 dmg + to gain elo, less than 200 dmg - lose elo
3k elo - 300 dmg + to gain elo, less than 300 dmg - lose elo
4k elo - 350 dmg + to gain elo, less than 350 dmg - lose elo
5k elo - 400 dmg + to gain elo, less than 400 dmg - lose elo
6k elo - 500 dmg + to gain elo, less than 500 dmg - lose elo

what do you think?

[SunRui]

not 2 hijack thread but would also like to see an improvement to the elo system where players on both teams get bonus points based on most damage and most kills, and maybe if there were a modifier to streaks both in duel/cw

[Faky]

not 2 hijack thread but would also like to see an improvement to the elo system where players on both teams get bonus points based on most damage and most kills, and maybe if there were a modifier to streaks both in duel/cw

Extra bonus for MVP is good idea. idk how it work if a player goes ae and enemy gets AE DMG like 2k for example how fair it is?

[Emerald]

Extra bonus for MVP is good idea. idk how it work if a player goes ae and enemy gets AE DMG like 2k for example how fair it is?

It wont work my friend. AE doesnt proceed to deal damage

Playing with unfair team? Choosing team is in our hand idk why 500dmg is for 6k elo players this is impossible when u 2v2 in cw(even 300dmg is harder lol)
ELO system should be fair and equal to everyone

CW is not only 2vs2, buddy. You can even play 5vs5, nothing is impossible.

[Faky]

It wont work my friend. AE doesnt proceed to deal damage


It does, in this patch everyone going ae in the middle of fight easy to hit 2k dmg lol free kills as well (if you dont trust me I can send you a replay of someone wiped out entire team)


CW is not only 2vs2, buddy. You can even play 5vs5, nothing is impossible.

True cw isn't only 2v2 but what about 2v2? you need to do 500dmg to gain elo in 2v2 cw match that's impossible!

[McSic]

True cw isn't only 2v2 but what about 2v2? you need to do 500dmg to gain elo in 2v2 cw match that's impossible!

We can do it based on the amount of characters in the team. Don't worry about those numbers.

It doesn't have to be strictly damage affecting elo changes in that case. Say you're matched up with a pretty bad teammate but you manage to deal lots of damage before eventually losing the 2v2. You lost, so clearly you should lose elo, but you also played well, so maybe gain some too. Overall, it could be that you'd want to balance good performance elo gain and loss elo loss for a net ~0 elo gain.
If it just so happens that you win, then you both won and did lots of damage, so you should get double the elo, while your teammate which is kind of bad shouldnt get as much just for getting carried if they did less damage.

Yeah that makes sense. Will have to come up with some good numbers for that.

Idea (to keep it somewhat simple):

If you win, you get elo. (If you're MVP: You get 1.5x ?)

If you lose, you lose elo only if you did not deal the required amount of damage:

For each enemy in the room (except if enemy team is bigger than yours, where it considers the size of your team):

1000+: 20 dmg per enemy
2000+: 40 dmg per enemy
3000+: 80 dmg per enemy
4000+: 120 dmg per enemy
5000+: 160 dmg per enemy
6000+: 200 dmg per enemy

Just throwing some numbers out there.

Another idea:

I did try spreading the elo gain/loss evenly among the team based on damage % of total team damage, when we first added elo, but that system was pretty harsh for the players. However, we could follow that approach for the losing team only - and for the winning team: everyone gets the same (based on his/her elo, like it currently is), except for the MVP (1.5x). That might work.

So say you lose, but you did 70% of your team's damage, so you only lose 30% of what you'd normally lose.

[Emerald]

I agree with Eran, the synchronization of the elo feels very weird, since sometimes in a TDM for example, you do more damage than the whole team, the team loses and even so you are condemned to lose elo.

[Ommadawn]

I guess it does make sense, not sure about the damage numbers but yea

[Faky]

Suggestion type:
Forum/FGunZ/Other


Suggestion description:
Sometimes in clanwars you play with unfair teams and I don't think it makes much sense to lose elo because of your team so I thought it would make more sense to make it like if you have 3k elo you have to deal 300 or more dmg a round and if you deal less you lose elo, deal more - gain elo.
for example
1k elo - 100 dmg + to gain elo, less than 100 dmg - lose elo
2k elo - 200 dmg + to gain elo, less than 200 dmg - lose elo
3k elo - 300 dmg + to gain elo, less than 300 dmg - lose elo
4k elo - 350 dmg + to gain elo, less than 350 dmg - lose elo
5k elo - 400 dmg + to gain elo, less than 400 dmg - lose elo
6k elo - 500 dmg + to gain elo, less than 500 dmg - lose elo

what do you think?

Playing with unfair team? Choosing team is in our hand idk why 500dmg is for 6k elo players this is impossible when u 2v2 in cw(even 300dmg is harder lol)
ELO system should be fair and equal to everyone

[Eran]

Playing with unfair team? Choosing team is in our hand idk why 500dmg is for 6k elo players this is impossible when u 2v2 in cw(even 300dmg is harder lol)
ELO system should be fair and equal to everyone

Good thing you mentioned that, it could be different damage for 2s 3s 4s 5s
And same for tdm maybe make it so the damage needed to be done is decided by the number of people in the room and in the teams like if it's not balanced maybe you'll have to deal less damage or more, also depending on your ranking.

I guess it does make sense, not sure about the damage numbers but yea

The damage numbers were just an example of how it could be done