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    Thanks but no one asked

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    Originally Posted by Jordan View Post
    Thanks but no one asked
    u kinda did by for some reason bringing up Bunny in the same sentence of mechanical skill, basically implying his word holds more worth than mine or really anyone here. he might be good at tbfing but thats completely useless when were trying to bust a cheater that plays the game how its supposed to be played

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    Yeah im gonna assume you didnt even take the time to read anything i wrote.

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    Originally Posted by Jordan View Post
    We're open to feedback and questions, We always take everything everyone says into consideration, I never stated that High ELO players were subjected to being hackers but merely they are the ones who usually have a deeper understanding of the game mechanically.(These users would be Pain and Bunny)

    And im not saying youre reporting hackers now cause yall arent and thats the biggest argument im trying to convey. You guys are chasing after hackers but arent sharing the evidence to support theyre hacking. Ive said it a bunch of times if theres more evidence theirs more chances it that you see irregularities.

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    one of the players you mentioned is known to hack by the majority of competitive players, and even Korean players avoid playing against them for that reason. And now, the cheater has made it even harder to report them by using shotguns that do 11-10 damage and having similar names to their non-hacking counterpart. This seems to be a contingency plan to make it difficult to distinguish between the two after the initial report.

    Do players have to do the reporting for GMs to take action, or can GMs take action on their own?

    Also, while it's important for players to report suspicious behavior, GMs should also be actively monitoring the game and taking action when they see something suspicious. However, there is a lack of confidence in GMs' ability to recognize the difference between skilled players and hackers, as they may not be competitive enough to have a deep understanding of the game mechanics, respectfully.

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    what kinda of hacker they use? i play tdm against they and didnt see anything strange

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    Originally Posted by Jordan View Post
    We're open to feedback and questions, We always take everything everyone says into consideration, I never stated that High ELO players were subjected to being hackers but merely they are the ones who usually have a deeper understanding of the game mechanically.(These users would be Pain and Bunny)

    And im not saying youre reporting hackers now cause yall arent and thats the biggest argument im trying to convey. You guys are chasing after hackers but arent sharing the evidence to support theyre hacking. Ive said it a bunch of times if theres more evidence theirs more chances it that you see irregularities.

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    Also, Thanks for the reply. I understand that you take feedback and questions seriously, but it's concerning to hear that the evidence we provide may not be enough to support our claims of hacking.

    It's good to hear that you are open to feedback and questions. However, it's important to acknowledge that the community's frustration with the reporting system may stem from a lack of transparency and clear communication regarding how reports are handled and the evidence needed to take action.

    It's understandable that the lack of evidence provided by some players makes it difficult for moderators to take action. But it's important to remember that the burden of proof lies with the moderators, and it's their responsibility to investigate reports thoroughly and make fair and objective judgments. Clear communication and transparency about the reporting process can help improve the trust and cooperation between the community and moderators. <As a GM, responding with "stop crying because the player is better than you" to reports of hacking is not only unprofessional but also dismissive of the legitimate concerns raised by the players. It sends the message that the GMs are not taking the reports seriously and are not willing to investigate the issue.

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    Originally Posted by Jinsakai View Post
    < someone who has been playing Gunz since 2009 is likely to have a lot of experience with the game and may have a better understanding of how it works and what to look for when trying to identify a hacker. Additionally, if they are a competitive player, they may have a heightened awareness of game mechanics and may be better equipped to spot unusual behavior or exploits + having competed against 1000s of players during those times, when coming across one who is cheating, it will become beyond obvious.
    This point completely ignores that player opinions are extremely subjective and suffer from confirmation bias. Player opinions are heavily influenced by the relation to the players they are fighting. GMs have a better understanding and far more objective opinions on these matters, combined with more insight and in-depth knowledge provided by the antihack system. Confirmation bias is very common with players' opinions and seeing your recent posts, you may be suffering from it too. It describes the tendency of people to favor information that confirms or strengthens their beliefs while being difficult to dislodge once affirmed. This leads to overconfidence in personal beliefs and causes people to ignore evidence that contradicts their beliefs. You seem to have ignored a lot of posts that contradicted your opinion. Anyhow, Dave pointed out (here: https://freestylersworld.com/showthr...=1#post1106554) that players/hackers do get banned very regularly and that there's a lot going on behind the scenes. We're checking. Jordan pointed out that you're free to report when you gather more evidence to strengthen your case (whereas not-reporting due to whatever reason weakens your case). The report section is always open. Plus our GMs do actively monitor the game and also take actions without reports.

    Anyhow this is a pretty useless thread that turned into an even more useless ego thread.

    Everything has already been said.

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