Atheism.

[Marcus]

I am a logical person, honestly if you knew me I would probably seem emotionless, so I do not understand why people automatically think atheism equals reason. Tell me what is logical accepting that simply everything came to be from nothing?

Theism seems much more rational to me.

You can keep your beliefs, but spouting off things like "logic vs emotion" has no place in this debate.

Both sides can be argued, haha it depends on how you look at it. To beleive that one "thing" greater than all others created everything seems a little far fetched, but everyone wants to beleive in something. For some its the fact that the Universe was created through subatomic particles, or one guy sculpting it in his image.

Haha, clearly the flying spaghetti monster seems the most rational

[StephanM]

Why can't both God and science exist in the same realm? If you believe in a supreme being (and I do, surprising I know), then wouldn't he have to make guidelines in which "reality" would have to follow. Reality needs parameters, as such, a God would have to create those parameters, aka 'science'.

Some people need to believe in something that isn't there (god), I know people that keep themselves up running cause they believe in god (tho I do not know why they believe in god).

[Wucas Pls]

Some people need to believe in something that isn't there (god), I know people that keep themselves up running cause they believe in god (tho I do not know why they believe in god).

I don't need anything to believe, I just think it is rather foolish to throw up everything to a simple singularity that happened 16.5 billion years ago. If you ask me, being an atheist seems like a much harder following than believing in a deity. I don't understand that mindset at all.

Put it this way, even without religion I would believe in a supreme being, a God, Kami, whatever you want to call it. Atheism seems medieval to me.

[Gr3yscale]

Silly people. You can't get rid of religion nor can you get rid of Atheism. There's no point in discussing.
EDIT: You can't prove there's a god neither can you prove there is none, don't tell me you can cuz' you can't and it'll stay that way.
That's all there is to it. It's not rocket science. So stfu already.
Stop making bullshit-threads.
Sit back.
Watch porn if you have to.
Peace out bitches.

[Person69]

There's been 10000000 threads like this omg it's legit so annoying.

[StephanM]

I don't need anything to believe, I just think it is rather foolish to throw up everything to a simple singularity that happened 16.5 billion years ago. If you ask me, being an atheist seems like a much harder following than believing in a deity. I don't understand that mindset at all.

Put it this way, even without religion I would believe in a supreme being, a God, Kami, whatever you want to call it. Atheism seems medieval to me.

Ok, let's put it this way.. I do not believe in a god (so basicly Atheism) or anything.

[HellSniper]

Well one thing is for certain though.
Alot of unnecessary wars happen because of/in the name of religion.

[Gr3yscale]

Well one thing is for certain though.
Alot of unnecessary wars happen because of/in the name of religion.

'Because of' could be correct since religion is often misused, as an excuse to make war.
Most religious wars are bullshit, wars have always been about power and dominance.

[Opeth]

guys, you should close this thread LOL

[Jawarisin]

First off, I dont usually like to get into debates about religion, only generates conflicts, but wucas, you seemed to have a few questions, so I will answer them.

I am a logical person, honestly if you knew me I would probably seem emotionless, so I do not understand why people automatically think atheism equals reason. Tell me what is logical accepting that simply everything came to be from nothing?

Theism seems much more rational to me.

You can keep your beliefs, but spouting off things like "logic vs emotion" has no place in this debate.

The big bang theory is more a theory, as it says it, not a fact. But it's the closest we've got from our current proofs. Religion comes from nowhere. Peoples just "thought it up", to explain phenomenons that they could not yet understand. There is no proof that god ever existed. It is not for us to find god doesn't exist, but for religion to find proofs god exist. I could say "I am god, prove me wrong" and I would stand on the same point as religion, while having as solid arguments. There is a multitude of religions also, making it even less likely that one would be true.

Why can't both God and science exist in the same realm? If you believe in a supreme being (and I do, surprising I know), then wouldn't he have to make guidelines in which "reality" would have to follow. Reality needs parameters, as such, a God would have to create those parameters, aka 'science'.

Because science base itselfs on facts, observation and the such. Religion comes from faith and beleif, it has no rationnal origin (for example: a dragon vs a rock).

I don't need anything to believe, I just think it is rather foolish to throw up everything to a simple singularity that happened 16.5 billion years ago. If you ask me, being an atheist seems like a much harder following than believing in a deity. I don't understand that mindset at all.

Put it this way, even without religion I would believe in a supreme being, a God, Kami, whatever you want to call it. Atheism seems medieval to me.

Religion is an old concept that was created to explain phenomenons which we could not yet understand. For example, ghosts have been imagined after seeing gas coming out of the cemetery grounds. Making whitish looking shapes. But we now know that it is a chemical reaction with the decomposition of the body. Same kind of pattern for the religion. So, as it goes, religion is more "medieval" if you prefer.


Now from a stand alone point. This is a funny little thing to think about. There is a galaxy located 13 billion light-years away from earth. From the light-years definition, it means it took light 13 billion years to reach us. Therefore we couldn't see it before 13 billion years after it sent it's first light towards us. If the universe was created in 7 days, how do you suppose the light ever got to the earth? (especially considering our universe is a few thousands years old "apparently")

Where are the dinosaurs in the religion?

Also, funny mental puzzle: If god can do anything, can he make a rock that he cannot lift? Oh... paradox. Now, let's take this question into reality, could he really do it if he existed? Think about it.

This is the kind of question you get when religion intertwines with reality, because it does not originate from it. It comes from the mind. You never saw a bird pray at an altar either.

I'll leave it at that, religion is a good belief, if it makes you feel better or more confident in your life, using it might help you, so choose whichever you want.

-Jawarisin

PS: Just for you wucas