Eminem: A better rapper than Drake, Meek Mill and Jesus?

[Mike]

this guy is obviously the best rapper...

[Crest]

Lawl someone said Drake is overrated. I agree.. that doesn't mean his music is not good. As much as everyone likes old school hip hop, there's plenty who dislike it as well. Everyone's getting used to 'new school'.. Rappers like Kendrick Lamar J. Cole Joey Bada$$ are doing their best to keep hip hop alive.. I'm not a fan of Eminem but I do appreciate his talent and what he did for Hip Hop. Him and Dr. Dre are revolutionary..

As far as Biggie and Tupac goes.. u can't really compare the two simply due to the fact that they had different styles of rap. Only cliche where they both sounded similar was during their beef with the diss tracks and shit.

[Overdrive]

Just Tupac. I said enough.

[Fourth]

N.Y. State of mind is just amazing.

[Buddhism]

nas, az, cormega, wu tang (namely gza, rza, raekwon and ghostface [ghostface still making excellent albums]), tech n9ne (and strange music), outkast, big krit, lil boosie, la the darkman, greg grease, dmx, lupe fiasco, kendrick, joe budden, big pun, fat joe, big l, the old jay z and more are all excellent in their own rite, some make better music than em, em has tons of great music, but he has fallen off imo, and hasn't been consistent whereas some other rappers have been rapping longer and are still producing great music ie. ghostface

edit: forgot about masta ace (one of the most underrated rappers), also spice 1 is a g too, i mean theres tons of ppl that i didnt even mention just read a post and seen masta ace and had to include him cuz hes underrated af

for similar rappers to eminem check out twista, twisted insane, mr. liqs

[Jiiigglypuff]

no fuk this shit im pissed gonna body this lil boy

[Eddie]

I hate the "who's the best" argument because no one knows how to fairly judge who the best is. You guys are comparing Eminem, an artist who has been in the game for almost two DECADES now, to artists who just recently got into the game within the past 5-8 years. If you're going to compare artists, make sure they're
A) From the same generation of the Hip-Hop culture, and
B) Make sure their styles are at least somewhat similar

Pac and Biggie ? Of course they're amazing artists. Two of the best of their time. But that's just it, from THEIR time. Is it really fair to compare two deceased artists who both have been deceased for almost two decades now, to newgen artists who are for the most part still in their prime ? Hip-Hop has changed so much when you jump from the 90s/early millennium style to whatever you'd like to call this new era of "Hip-Hop" lol.

When you've got two completely different styles and you're trying to compare who the best is, it's not a fair judgement. It's like trying to say what's better between Rap and Rock. If you say, for example, Eminem is better than someone like idk... Big Sean. That's ****ing apples to oranges right there dude lol. They're incomparable.

Me personally ? I don't think Eminem is the best. He's a damn good artist, but his newer stuff just doesn't sit well with me. To me, Em went from deep story lines where you could feel the emotion in his words, to just rapping quickly about damn near anything. Yeah it's a hell of a talent and he's damn near untouchable when you try to compare anyone else to his speed and rhyming skills, but I don't see any real structure anymore in his songs/albums other than a couple that stand out from his newer work. I'm probably gonna get torn a new one for this, but as of right now Drake is probably the best artist, when we're speaking in terms of art. He's stayed true to his style (2008 Drake is really no different than 2015 Drake. Only difference is he's better now). He knows how to use proper transitions in an album, rather than throwing together a compilation of hits with no structure or order to them. He also knows how to properly place these hits into his albums without ruining the structure. His production quality is always up to par if not better. His flow and his voice always match up with the instrumentals he uses, and the instrumentals almost always match up the meaning/mood behind the song. Even the songs he features in are amazing. You can take any shitty rap song out there, but you throw Drake on the feature and Drake makes the song instantly better. I can go on and on defending "soft ass Drake" but there's a reason "soft ass Drake" gets so much hype. It's because he's good. When you look at all of the elements of music, he's the only newer generation artist that really excels in all of the aspects.

There are plenty of lyricists who are amazing and I'd gladly place them in the rank of #1, but they're underground, no-name artists with no achievements. Part of being the best comes from your achievements and being widely known.

/rantover
/kek

[Fourth]

I hate the "who's the best" argument because no one knows how to fairly judge who the best is. You guys are comparing Eminem, an artist who has been in the game for almost two DECADES now, to artists who just recently got into the game within the past 5-8 years. If you're going to compare artists, make sure they're
A) From the same generation of the Hip-Hop culture, and
B) Make sure their styles are at least somewhat similar

Pac and Biggie ? Of course they're amazing artists. Two of the best of their time. But that's just it, from THEIR time. Is it really fair to compare two deceased artists who both have been deceased for almost two decades now, to newgen artists who are for the most part still in their prime ? Hip-Hop has changed so much when you jump from the 90s/early millennium style to whatever you'd like to call this new era of "Hip-Hop" lol.

When you've got two completely different styles and you're trying to compare who the best is, it's not a fair judgement. It's like trying to say what's better between Rap and Rock. If you say, for example, Eminem is better than someone like idk... Big Sean. That's ****ing apples to oranges right there dude lol. They're incomparable.

Me personally ? I don't think Eminem is the best. He's a damn good artist, but his newer stuff just doesn't sit well with me. To me, Em went from deep story lines where you could feel the emotion in his words, to just rapping quickly about damn near anything. Yeah it's a hell of a talent and he's damn near untouchable when you try to compare anyone else to his speed and rhyming skills, but I don't see any real structure anymore in his songs/albums other than a couple that stand out from his newer work. I'm probably gonna get torn a new one for this, but as of right now Drake is probably the best artist, when we're speaking in terms of art. He's stayed true to his style (2008 Drake is really no different than 2015 Drake. Only difference is he's better now). He knows how to use proper transitions in an album, rather than throwing together a compilation of hits with no structure or order to them. He also knows how to properly place these hits into his albums without ruining the structure. His production quality is always up to par if not better. His flow and his voice always match up with the instrumentals he uses, and the instrumentals almost always match up the meaning/mood behind the song. Even the songs he features in are amazing. You can take any shitty rap song out there, but you throw Drake on the feature and Drake makes the song instantly better. I can go on and on defending "soft ass Drake" but there's a reason "soft ass Drake" gets so much hype. It's because he's good. When you look at all of the elements of music, he's the only newer generation artist that really excels in all of the aspects.

There are plenty of lyricists who are amazing and I'd gladly place them in the rank of #1, but they're underground, no-name artists with no achievements. Part of being the best comes from your achievements and being widely known.

/rantover
/kek

Damn son, that's a huge ass argument. And a well pointed out one.

[Chicken]

Kendrick Lamar > J.Cole > Logic > Drake

To ppl who never listened to Logic :

Logic has real meaning in his songs , Drake is bs tbh like "RUNNING THRU THE 6 WITH MY WOES" , what's a 6? I think Logic has way more talk than Drake , drake will refer water as alcohol in his songs , fk dat ok

[Again]

Kendrick Lamar > J.Cole > Logic > Drake

To ppl who never listened to Logic : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDH9RIqazjA

Logic has real meaning in his songs , Drake is bs tbh like "RUNNING THRU THE 6 WITH MY WOES" , what's a 6? I think Logic has way more talk than Drake , drake will refer water as alcohol in his songs , fk dat ok

416 and 647 are two of three area codes for the city of Toronto.

As for woes, it’s not in reference to any problems. It’s an abbreviation for “Wardie”, New Orleans slang for people from the same ward (which sounds like “WHOA-dee” when pronounced with a New Orleans accent). Fellow Toronto rapper and OVO affiliate Devontée has said that “woe” also stands for “working on excellence”, although Drake has never confirmed it.

Drake’s home city of Toronto is divided into 44 wards, each with its own city councilor so even though the slang is southern, it still makes sense for the 6.

Referring to Toronto as “the 6” is basically something Drake invented and was not a widely used metonym before he tried to popularize it. Torontonians did not react positively.

Know yourself, know your worth. Next time when ur wondering what something means, rap genius is your friend.