New players

[Linzor]

Linzor all I do is come on here and get flamed by those three. If they are in the chat and I say a word, they all immediately shit talk me and any staff sitting in the chat box watches. It's not even just me, they're disgusting, horrid people that are corrupting the community slowly because they believe that it's alright to treat people like vermin. They think they're extra justified in " provoking " people like stuwadie said in his comment and deleted. The fact of the matter is, you guys don't see a good amount of the absolute caustic pus that they dump all over this community. I will admit it was wrong of me to say that they never get banned, but I have never seen them get banned, and even if they were banned obviously it has done literally nothing to fix the actual issue, which is all of them being flamers.

Instead of crying, just report each time. I got no forum powers that way that I can punish stu or trama for example for provoking you. I can do EXACTLY as much as you which is making a report.

Chef banned these guys before, he's shown he doesn't give a **** about who you are or if he knows you.

If you report and it gets declined it's probably because it's too minor or not not enough proof to punish someone for it. Chef can't do anything without proof. Now if you think they should get punished because they ego you then really lol, welcome to fgunz forum.

[Stuwadie]

Linzor all I do is come on here and get flamed by those three. If they are in the chat and I say a word, they all immediately shit talk me and any staff sitting in the chat box watches. It's not even just me, they're disgusting, horrid people that are corrupting the community slowly because they believe that it's alright to treat people like vermin. They think they're extra justified in " provoking " people like stuwadie said in his comment and deleted. The fact of the matter is, you guys don't see a good amount of the absolute caustic pus that they dump all over this community. I will admit it was wrong of me to say that they never get banned, but I have never seen them get banned, and even if they were banned obviously it has done literally nothing to fix the actual issue, which is all of them being flamers.

You wont get banned directly you will get muted and infracted or just muted and warned

The system automatically bans u if u have 10 infraction points u can get those infractions by trolling threads , by flaming players etc but if u have read my other post when i say somthing that isnt very offensive like , spaghetti arms , frogger , small arms kid , and u respond with stfu or flame back with other curse words we most likely flame back , if both parties are flaming eachother nobody gets anything because its just an online verbally fight in the chatbox

Its sad that u have to say that staff members protecting us its not true they know who i am and i know them BUT i have a serious side afterall the other things i do is just a troll they know i can be serious

And i got infracted multiple times , muted , banned 1 time for posting porn

Yeah.... we get protected

ANYWAYS we are still talking about this accusing staff members etc which is really off topic from the debate i would appreciate it belzac if u dont bring this up again and we all just move on instead bitching at eachother on and on wich is useless in a thread

Regards , Stuwadie

[GDBobby]

And don't come telling me that some other server doesn't have ego people in it, which would be a lie... Although, I've seen other online multiplayer games with a better community than this one here.

That's kind of the point.
Also, your comment is not contributing in any way shape or form.

[Dave]

Here my thoughts:

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Temp Solutions:

• Make tournaments. Cash prizes. Monthly at least, special tournaments quarterly.
• Can possibly do that.
• Get rid of OP weapons. Don't release donor/event weapons with more damage than the highest leveled weapons, make highest leveled weapons around 60, which takes about a month to get if you play 7 hours a week. High damage weapons that are not obtainable through regular gameplay is just encouraging cancer.
• I believe our item-balancement compared to other servers is very fair. High level items have almost identical stats as our donation items.
• As an alternative, give an option to add a roomtag that synchronizes weapon damage in game (every revolver deals 5 damage per bullet, regardless of what revolver you have)
• This has been suggested before, but it can also be used as a "no-donor" roomtag. Sure it's not the same thing, but it pretty much renders donation and event items useless.
• Make equipment hard to obtain. Keep 0 level requirement, but make them cost bounty.
• I think people have mixed feelings about this. A lot of people, including me, went to private servers to be able to wear premium/special items instead of having to level hard for it.

Long Term Solutions:

• We have the source code right? Graphics overhaul. This is a pretty big stretch, but it's one of the few things that will bring new players. I'm talking full out gunz2.0 (don't talk to me about gunz 2). You might have to talk to the current rights owner, and work out a contract. Give it a new name and everything, but keep the core mechanics. Yes, we will have to pay some people.
• I feel like this is not a solution, but a way to kill GunZ 1/1.5, especially for a private server. Also a lot of our users have very crappy computers. Contracts are also not possible, companies don't want to deal with private servers nor will we have the funds for it if they even wanted to collaborate.
• Ranked Mode. Have a formal mode for 1v1s and a solo queue, and support gladiator 1v1 ranked too. Make better maps for this. Either introduce modified ELO or a ladder and a leaderboard.
• We want to introduce something like this in our next client version.
• Start actively helping new people get in to the game. Make tutorials, video/text/picture guides, for every single thing in the game. Don't ego new/shitty players for no reason.
• I can integrate something like this in the next client version's website.
• Improve the votekick system. It's gotten to the point that maintaining an 8 man glad room as an active fighting room is impossible. If people want to play they make 4 man duels at dojo. I don't really have any ideas on how to improve it.
• This can be looked into.

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[GDBobby]

I feel like this is not a solution, but a way to kill GunZ 1/1.5, especially for a private server. Also a lot of our users have very crappy computers. Contracts are also not possible, companies don't want to deal with private servers nor will we have the funds for it if they even wanted to collaborate.

It may be straight up impossible.
Your comment is very constructive Dave, thanks. I didn't really look at the patch notes until immediately after posting this thread, and don't get me wrong, the dev team is doing a good job at player retention. Also really didn't look at donor items. Dash color was a great idea, and I think more implements like that could really help.

EDIT: An expected/in progress development board might help. Its a double edged sword tho.

[Precision]

Here my thoughts:

I like the sounds of it.

But I strongly agree with GDBobby in this regard:
"this game is hard to get in to. It's hard as **** to learn anything in this game without help. It's a turn off to new people.
New players don't join because of the high skill cap. Fighting someone much better than you doesn't really show their skills in any way, it just makes you feel terrible. This isn't that big a deal, any lasting new players will/must be able to accept this."

If the community does not help out new players they tend to get bored quickly of this game and quit. The people that play now are people that have been playing this game for years. You will rarely find new players playing anymore. I think if its more friendly, the server can have more skillful players for clan war and everyone can get a benefit out of it

[Buddhism]

I really like the ladder idea, though there are many people exploiting the game to enhance their 'skills'. I would say for these ladders to not give any cash incentives and to be strictly solo.

I think the balancing is fine at the moment. (There are some exceptions like those ridiculous Jack Rifles and even double MGs) With that said, I can't speak on the new range versus damage system that is in its testing stages. I think members of the community should collaborate with the dev team on this, the ones who are not bias in any regard, and make fair decisions.

Graphics overhaul has been done to some extent with what Jetman did, where he implemented the multi-sampling option. This increases the clarity of objects the further you travel, whereas beforehand it would blur. I know this isn't exactly what you had in mind, but, as Dave said, anything else would not be doable. However, I would consider cleaning up the content of the game. What I mean by this is that there are many an item that are not being used at all (cloth items)..I guess this would be difficult to tell entirely, but I think players have a pretty good idea of some clothes that are just plain ugly and not in use. I think really outstanding new custom content while may not exactly bring NEW players, will keep the dedicated players happy. Can even generate revenue if they were made to be donation items.



Right now, the main issues dissuading people from playing here in particular, is the low level of competition. While stats ARE balanced, being an anti-lead server, even good players are just dying too fast, and as such are deciding to play other servers where they actually have ~200 HP which sounds insane, but, in reality is not too far-fetched when coupled with the anti-lead AND the ridiculously high hacking rate. That is an issue in itself, and it's prevelance is way more common than meets the eye. It's kind of a...I forget the colloquial term...but, more or less, if we ban all those hackers, we in turn kill a portion of the player base whom actively brings people to the competitive scene.

[GDBobby]

I really like the ladder idea, though there are many people exploiting the game to enhance their 'skills'. I would say for these ladders to not give any cash incentives and to be strictly solo.

Of course, ladders will only affect seed placement in tournaments. Nothing else besides ego.

I think really outstanding new custom content while may not exactly bring NEW players, will keep the dedicated players happy. Can even generate revenue if they were made to be donation items.

I think so as well, current new content flow is doing that pretty well.

[StephanM]

Or implent CS:GO's DM system where you can swap weapons on spawn .

[loneeagle]

I personally don't believe this game will ever die..
Why? idk i just keep coming back to it one way ore another i just get the feeling i want to play gunz There is just nothing like it. Once you get into it You can neve really forget it Ofcourse people quit the game And ofcourse it is hard as hell to get new players to actually stay playing it. It's hard as hel to start playin when your new.. All i can say is Try to promote the game as much as you can i do too!!!