yes i have tried all of the above actions such as port forwarding.. changing in game ports. nothing works. we still have 180 ping to eachother... also im sorry for advertising if this is... but.. we went on aeria and we were able to play against eachother with 40 - 60 ping... so is it safe for me to say that it is not our internet.. that it is daves server that needs to expand their net width?