Originally Posted by McSic View Post
Why wouldn't people equip 2 of these rings? An almost 50% reduction of explosive damage is pretty strong if there's a lot of explosives being used in a room. People can equip and unequip those however they see fit. When equipping both rings, you trade 14 HP 14 AP for almost 50% less explosion damage.

Increased explosion damage on direct hits while decreased damage through walls (and nullified through floors) encourages direct hits (and only makes them equal to their old status/strength against someone wearing an ex/dmg ring when doing those direct hits) whereas they're significantly less useful when the enemy is standing behind a wall / around a corner / on a different floor. So I wouldn't call it placebo.

On a side note, 1 hit and 2 hit nades weren't buffed, they've only received nerfs (ex/dmg rings, wall damage reduction, floor damage reduction), and those were the ones people complained about the most prior to this patch.

Blast grenades could be OP right now due to their high damage in combination with instant explosion, making it very easy to land direct hits, will need to hear some more opinions.
i agree with your points, i just don't see the value in stacking these (where they'll really only be used) into a garden TDM or mansion AnD where practically everyone = equipped with sprays or 11/12 damage shotguns which will 2-3 shot you regardless at 260 HP.

i haven't seen many complaints about 1/2 hit nades (and i use them), ive mostly seen complaints ingame regarding molotovs, mines, and flamethrowers so i was unaware those 2 nades were the problem in particular.

anyway, i just used the lvl 80 exp res rings stacked ingame and they personally didn't feel too noticeable vs 3 players using blast nades, i was still half health after 2 nades but at the same time i was dying too fast to other people shooting me as well lol.

trying 2 stacked lvl 80 rings in a training room on both myself and a bot, i think the % might be off. i had 260 total hp, threw 2 blast nades (200/2=100) which should be 160totalhp and ended up at 95/52, 147 total hp. it took a total of 5 nades to kill me when it should take 6. 5x50=250, less than 260. 6x50=300.

i think they're OK on paper but won't see much actual use. personally i am not gonna touch these again; maybe if they had another bonus where you're immune to your own explosive damage or something i would revisit them but currently i just don't see the point in taking them over regular rings that give you a bigger health pool.