A word of thanks to Joobie and Alex

FIRST OFF, I KNOW I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO POST THIS HERE BUT SINCE PROFILES DON'T ALLOW FOR MESSAGES LONGER THAN 1000 CHARACTERS TO BE POSTED, I AM DOING IT HERE, AND I WANT TO VOICE MY OPINION.

Doing this in a seperate thread here since your resignation page was closed, mainly replying to what Luneth and Jakanadin wrote and I completely disagree with what both of them have to say and I want to say thanks to what you've done:
It's never pathetic to leave over whatever reason there may be at whichever time it might be. One critical factor to being successful and competent as a staff member is if you actually enjoy the job you're doing for this server. If you're not content with the community, why would you even bother to stay to moderate it? I have experienced this first-hand, and many others, including Luneth and Jakanadin aswell. You might say that times are critical here as of now (I wouldn't know, I don't follow the discussions and developments on here anymore, at least not as much as I used to, quite ironically for the same reason as both of your resignations, only had I realised it much earlier), but really, is that a reason to be obliged to stay? If you don't want to be part of the staff anymore, you're very much so allowed to quit, aren't you? Saying that it's pathetic to leave at a time like this is a sign of being pathetic yourself. Everyone is entitled to have his own opinion and has his own right to do whatever he wants to do. Truth be told, the constantly changing community on here was one of my main reasons to quit being a GM. It's not the actual change that leads to a decision like this, it's the fact that this change is completely detrimental for the server, and has been exactly so for the last 2~3 years. It's obviously quite clear that lately things haven't been thought about twice around here, with the whole madness about the Event Team and the recent GM Applications. I've read a share of those applications, and even though I don't know most of the people who applied, it's easy to decide from a mere look at some random threads and posts and behavior around the forums and in-game whether a person is even qualified for trials or not, and I can safely say that I agree with both Alex and Joobie that the decisions have, softly speaking, not been made very carefully. I can only say that, if you are extremely discontent with those decisions made like Alex and Joobie clearly are, it's only natural that you don't want to be part of it all anymore. Because this is isn't just discontent with the community, but it's discontent with your own staff, your colleagues. Why would you stay with them if you don't support their actings? And Luneth, the incredibly prejudiced post you made stating that they ''shouldn't talk about shit they don't know''? I can only speculate as to why such ridiculous behavior is being allowed here. A staff member like yourself knows better than to put up with such negative and biased attitude, especially considering your knowledge about Joobie's past here. And to both you and Jak and everybody disagreeing with what both of them wrote: Do you guys really think that one incident is reason enough to leave? Isn't it quite obvious that when Joobie writes that the community has only been changing for the worst over the last few years that he's generalising his statement and making it clear that he has been unhappy about the negative changes here for a long time? There's always one last straw, in this case the recent choices made by the staff. It's even comparable to the direct and passive lead that caused WW1, although I'm pretty sure 90% of here wouldn't understand that reference anyway, only underlining the decremental value of this community. I've made my point, I am not looking forward to getting into arguments. If you wish to reply to my rant feel free to do so, however don't expect a reply from me. I'm merely expressing my disagreement with everything that I've just read. Joobie, you've done a great job for this community throughout the years. I've been staff alongside you (I think?), and I've been here long enough to know what you are like and how well you do your job. Your devotion has always been admirable, it's inevitable that when struck by discontent for so long even something so big vanishes. Don't let the haters get you down, kudos to you. Same thing for you Alex, although I can't recall if I've seen a lot of you (Too many name changes >_>)

Anyway, thanks for reading. I know it's probably weird to see me being serious around here, since my last bunch of threads were all troll threads, so please don't address me on that. People who have known me for a long time here know that I can write my rants pretty well, and that I can actually be serious at times. Also, don't give me tl;dr or 'you don't know what you're talking about' bullshit. If it's too long for you or you have no idea what I'm addressing here, you shouldn't have read it anyway.

I agree if this has to be locked, especially since this might be leading to some heat. I just wanted to voice my opinion. Thanks.

Don't get me wrong. I said nothing of thanks. I obviously have all the worlds thanks to give them for taking the load off my back for as long as they had been here, just didn't feel like making my post just about this big.

I agree with Bakpao, sadly I've already used up all of my thanks.

It's a well writen post. I loved reading it O.o

And I agree on most of the points.

Also, for anyone interested, I just scanned through the first 3 pages of the reports section (which is only 2 days, yes I know), but this is pretty much sufficient to underline that not only have there been bad picks, but also over time there has been a drastical lowering of standards here and an increase of reports (correlation, anyone?), not to mention horrible (in some cases even biased) decisions

Enjoy.

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https://freestylersworld.com/showthread.php?48508-Report
Basically what Resort is saying here is that it's ok to call someone a *** as long as it isn't entirely clear who you're talking to, and therefore he's supporting homophobia. Really?

https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...ag-in-clan-war
Even though this guy is banned by now, ...really? 'He just got a warning for this which he removed with coins' - oh hey look, I'm sure I can really impress this guy by doing the exact same thing - AGAIN! Last time I checked, force lagging was bannable, no? And even if it isn't, why not? Isn't third-partying to gain unfair advantages bannable? And should I even mention the countless other reports on the exact same guy?

https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...laming-K*anker
Ranting about using one of the most offensive words known to Dutch people and for which countless of other people have been warned in the past. The dates in my signature are the dates which mark my instating and my resignation, in my time I would warn everybody for using words as such.

https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...Public-Flaming
Adorable's reply underlines the fact that she's a bad pick. Pretty self-explanatory

https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...?48294-6maple9
This is pure harassment, and he gets off with a warning (which he can easily buy off) and a 2 week mute? Standards have drastically gone down here, don't you think that's why there's being so much reports?

https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...80-IGN-NewLife
Seriously? A 50 hour mute? Why aren't offenses like these handled with through warnings, or even temporary bans?

and the pretty obvious one
https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...307#post507307
Staff member calling a player an idiot? Ignoring homophobia? Luckily enough McSic spotted this. Still, shouldn't he reconsider people like this on his staff team?

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Apparently they want to make resigning seem like a bad thing.

Btw Bakpao, learn to pause to make paragraphs son.

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Originally Posted by Bakpao

Also, for anyone interested, I just scanned through the first 3 pages of the reports section (which is only 2 days, yes I know), but this is pretty much sufficient to underline that not only have there been bad picks, but also over time there has been a drastical lowering of standards here and an increase of reports (correlation, anyone?), not to mention horrible (in some cases even biased) decisions

Enjoy.

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https://freestylersworld.com/showthread.php?48508-Report
Basically what Resort is saying here is that it's ok to call someone a *** as long as it isn't entirely clear who you're talking to, and therefore he's supporting homophobia. Really?

https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...ag-in-clan-war
Even though this guy is banned by now, ...really? 'He just got a warning for this which he removed with coins' - oh hey look, I'm sure I can really impress this guy by doing the exact same thing - AGAIN! Last time I checked, force lagging was bannable, no? And even if it isn't, why not? Isn't third-partying to gain unfair advantages bannable? And should I even mention the countless other reports on the exact same guy?

https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...laming-K*anker
Ranting about using one of the most offensive words known to Dutch people and for which countless of other people have been warned in the past. The dates in my signature are the dates which mark my instating and my resignation, in my time I would warn everybody for using words as such.

https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...Public-Flaming
Adorable's reply underlines the fact that she's a bad pick. Pretty self-explanatory

https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...?48294-6maple9
This is pure harassment, and he gets off with a warning (which he can easily buy off) and a 2 week mute? Standards have drastically gone down here, don't you think that's why there's being so much reports?

https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...80-IGN-NewLife
Seriously? A 50 hour mute? Why aren't offenses like these handled with through warnings, or even temporary bans?

and the pretty obvious one
https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...307#post507307
Staff member calling a player an idiot? Ignoring homophobia? Luckily enough McSic spotted this. Still, shouldn't he reconsider people like this on his staff team?

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Yeah I spoted that "he may not be talking to you" lmao that's completely stupid.

Bakpao4Admin even tho he sucks at transformice. Learn to win a map jejejeje

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Originally Posted by Bakpao

Also, for anyone interested, I just scanned through the first 3 pages of the reports section (which is only 2 days, yes I know), but this is pretty much sufficient to underline that not only have there been bad picks, but also over time there has been a drastical lowering of standards here and an increase of reports (correlation, anyone?), not to mention horrible (in some cases even biased) decisions

Enjoy.

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https://freestylersworld.com/showthread.php?48508-Report
Basically what Resort is saying here is that it's ok to call someone a *** as long as it isn't entirely clear who you're talking to, and therefore he's supporting homophobia. Really?

https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...ag-in-clan-war
Even though this guy is banned by now, ...really? 'He just got a warning for this which he removed with coins' - oh hey look, I'm sure I can really impress this guy by doing the exact same thing - AGAIN! Last time I checked, force lagging was bannable, no? And even if it isn't, why not? Isn't third-partying to gain unfair advantages bannable? And should I even mention the countless other reports on the exact same guy?

https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...laming-K*anker
Ranting about using one of the most offensive words known to Dutch people and for which countless of other people have been warned in the past. The dates in my signature are the dates which mark my instating and my resignation, in my time I would warn everybody for using words as such.

https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...Public-Flaming
Adorable's reply underlines the fact that she's a bad pick. Pretty self-explanatory

https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...?48294-6maple9
This is pure harassment, and he gets off with a warning (which he can easily buy off) and a 2 week mute? Standards have drastically gone down here, don't you think that's why there's being so much reports?

https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...80-IGN-NewLife
Seriously? A 50 hour mute? Why aren't offenses like these handled with through warnings, or even temporary bans?

and the pretty obvious one
https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...307#post507307
Staff member calling a player an idiot? Ignoring homophobia? Luckily enough McSic spotted this. Still, shouldn't he reconsider people like this on his staff team?

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Dude, it makes no sense to talk about banning someone for being unlegit anymore. Me and Rash are gone, none of them can spot uc/oc/sb/aimbot/aimfix, they all just speculate. And when I banned a guy named Praa for being unlegit and refusing to fix his lag, all hell broke loose. Not to mention he was banned for the same reason 3 times before.

Lmfao! All I'm seeing while scrolling through is basically "how can you be sure he was saying it to you" ROFL.

Also to add: Jakanadin told me about my mother and when I told him about his mother he perma banned me not too long ago.

I honestly think that McSic should be the person to pick the staff members because this is just slackness, Mr. Jong is definitely off his game as of recent times.

The fg revolution *****s
stephan delete my op fg revolution signature
lets kill him

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Originally Posted by CamelBoyBashy

Dude, it makes no sense to talk about banning someone for being unlegit anymore. Me and Rash are gone, none of them can spot uc/oc/sb/aimbot/aimfix, they all just speculate. And when I banned a guy named Praa for being unlegit and refusing to fix his lag, all hell broke loose. Not to mention he was banned for the same reason 3 times before.

Lmfao! All I'm seeing while scrolling through is basically "how can you be sure he was saying it to you" ROFL.

Also to add: Jakanadin told me about my mother and when I told him about his mother he perma banned me not too long ago.

I honestly think that McSic should be the person to pick the staff members because this is just slackness, Mr. Jong is definitely off his game as of recent times.

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I read that too and disappointedly planted my hand in my face when I saw it, and even though it is indeed a biased report it has no relevance - these are about the game moderators, be it the new ones or the old ones. I could probably write a whole different rant on forum moderating although it has always come across as much too bureaucratic and power-greedy to me, causing me to never have shown any interest towards it. Good point though, thanks for addressing it, it only adds more value to my argument o/

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Originally Posted by Bakpao

I read that too and disappointedly planted my hand in my face when I saw it, and even though it is indeed a biased report it has no relevance - these are about the game moderators, be it the new ones or the old ones. I could probably write a whole different rant on forum moderating although it has always come across as much too bureaucratic and power-greedy to me, causing me to never have shown any interest towards it. Good point though, thanks for addressing it, it only adds more value to my argument o/

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https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...rting-this-guy

more evidence? o.o

only a mute for saying that, used to be a warning + mute when I was still gm.

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Originally Posted by CamelBoyBashy

https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...rting-this-guy

more evidence? o.o

only a mute for saying that, used to be a warning + mute when I was still gm.

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Give me credits kid.

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Originally Posted by Mime

Give me credits kid.

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This ^.

Credits to Mr. El... uhm.. I mean Chris.

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Originally Posted by Mime

Give me credits kid.

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choukran

i remember when i got banned for saying pepperoni


INb4 ANOTHER BAN

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Originally Posted by CamelBoyBashy

Dude, it makes no sense to talk about banning someone for being unlegit anymore. Me and Rash are gone, none of them can spot uc/oc/sb/aimbot/aimfix, they all just speculate. And when I banned a guy named Praa for being unlegit and refusing to fix his lag, all hell broke loose. Not to mention he was banned for the same reason 3 times before.

Lmfao! All I'm seeing while scrolling through is basically "how can you be sure he was saying it to you" ROFL.

Also to add: Jakanadin told me about my mother and when I told him about his mother he perma banned me not too long ago.

I honestly think that McSic should be the person to pick the staff members because this is just slackness, Mr. Jong is definitely off his game as of recent times.

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You're right, first Ben says after a few views of the report thread, my clanmate was not shotbotting. Then in a sudden random change without any proof otherwise, did they ban him. Not only that it was a ban, it was an ip ban. If he did shotbot in the first place, why didn't my clanmate Arya get banned by Rash or Bashy in the first place? He was reported for "unlegitness" about 5 times before the "Erock's shotbot" came out. All of them were denied when the reports were handled by Rash. Once Rash and Bashy decided to join the ELITE group, these "so called know how to spot uc/oc/sb/ab gms" banned him immediately. Ha!

"I can no longer play League with you. You choose to associate yourself with Bash and Rashy, you can be right out of my friendship, then." - Jaka

I'm not the kind of person that gets heated easily but this pissed me off. Jaka you you basically said that would throw away your friendship that you had with Alex
just because he is friends with Rash and Stefan. You are wrong for this on so many levels it's not even funny. You should be disappointed in yourself to be honest.

Deleting my post without my consent or warning, Thanks.

The more recent staff members are so full of thereselves, Luneth calls somebody an idiot while the guy felt offended over being called gay. And he thought it wasn't even an insult? Where the hell have you been, you're what, 19? And you don't think gay is an insult to people? You need jesus my friend, stop acting like you own the server.

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You're right, first Ben says after a few views of the report thread, my clanmate was not shotbotting. Then in a sudden random change without any proof otherwise, did they ban him. Not only that it was a ban, it was an ip ban. If he did shotbot in the first place, why didn't my clanmate Arya get banned by Rash or Bashy in the first place? He was reported for "unlegitness" about 5 times before the "Erock's shotbot" came out. All of them were denied when the reports were handled by Rash. Once Rash and Bashy decided to join the ELITE group, these "so called know how to spot uc/oc/sb/ab gms" banned him immediately. Ha!

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You gotta wonder..

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Originally Posted by Charcoal

"I can no longer play League with you. You choose to associate yourself with Bash and Rashy, you can be right out of my friendship, then." - Jaka

I'm not the kind of person that gets heated easily but this pissed me off. Jaka you you basically said that would throw away your friendship that you had with Alex
just because he is friends with Rash and Stefan. You are wrong for this on so many levels it's not even funny. You should be disappointed in yourself to be honest.

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I don't understand how you could just start hate someone/dislike them simply from their choice of friends. I'm friends with current/former Game Moderators and other staff that REALLY hated Andy. Do you see them just ignoring me because I'm friends with him? A real friend wouldn't give a ****. It's not like Alex was conspiring with Rash and Bashy to do something horrible. They're just friends. This is complete bullshit to me, just saying.

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Originally Posted by Leopard

Deleting my post without my consent or warning, Thanks.

The more recent staff members are so full of thereselves, Luneth calls somebody an idiot while the guy felt offended over being called gay. And he thought it wasn't even an insult? Where the hell have you been, you're what, 19? And you don't think gay is an insult to people? You need jesus my friend, stop acting like you own the server.

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Lmao. He ran a MC server and now he think he's the shit. Oh, and I thanked a post from I think when Charcoal called him a trash GM and he was like;

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Oh really, you thank him for saying:
Oh please you're trash as a game moderator anyways you should just resign it's not like you're in anyway helping this community.

I'll wont ever talk to you again.

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Originally Posted by Adam

You gotta wonder..

I don't understand how you could just start hate someone/dislike them simply from their choice of friends. I'm friends with current/former Game Moderators and other staff that REALLY hated Andy. Do you see them just ignoring me because I'm friends with him? A real friend wouldn't give a ****. It's not like Alex was conspiring with Rash and Bashy to do something horrible. They're just friends. This is complete bullshit to me, just saying.

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I know; its not right.
But what also pisses me off is the fact they're removing our post on a thread in the Debates section, where we express our free will. If we can't do that, remove this sub section because it is pointless to even have if you're going to be biased about it.

On topic, I'd really like to know why you'd break up your online friendship over something not even happening in real life, no. That's ridiculous and Jaka needs to change, not Alex because he did nothing wrong but be respectful to them and develop an online friendship.

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Originally Posted by Leopard

I know; its not right.
But what also pisses me off is the fact they're removing our post on a thread in the Debates section, where we express our free will. If we can't do that, remove this sub section because it is pointless to even have if you're going to be biased about it.

On topic, I'd really like to know why you'd break up your online friendship over something not even happening in real life, no. That's ridiculous and Jaka needs to change, not Alex because he did nothing wrong but be respectful to them and develop an online friendship.

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Exactly.

Anyway, I know this is ******ed, but LoL is a completely different game. You only have to play league with Alex, not Rash, not Bashy. I dont get what's so bad about that. Infact he might as well "defriend" 3/4 of the server for supporting Bashy and Rash in this equation.

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Originally Posted by Leopard

Anyway, I know this is ******ed, but LoL is a completely different game. You only have to play league with Alex, not Rash, not Bashy. I dont get what's so bad about that. Infact he might as well "defriend" 3/4 of the server for supporting Bashy and Rash in this equation.

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to be honest, i'm quite disappointed to hear this from jakanadin. i never thought i'd hear such, sorry for my language but, complete bullshit coming from him.

Im taken aback too, he is a quality staff member, but to hear that was a shot to the head. That was a really poor move on his part, but we do have to understand it is his choice and not ours, his life and not ours, and he has to do what he thinks is best for him.

On another topic, these new staff members surely know how to shit talk. There was quite an argument today between Jin, KingKareem, Resort and Ben today; it was rather funny though.
Adorable was trying to handle a UC thread, when she can hardly K-style in game, she just talks or ignores people.
Jin fired a comment to her, and she of course ignored it; what choice did she really have. But Resort says "Jin shut the **** up you cant handle a UC thread either" or something like that. It caused a dispute for about 5 minutes, before Ben applys ice to the burns made within the chatbox. I was muted during the time, but I really would've liked to jump into this conversation, because for a newer staff member, that was a poor move and you make yourself look unprofessional. I applaud Adorable for ignoring the situation, it is what you should do, but I'm puzzled why she tried to do the UC report. I believe she should of left it to Kunal, somebody who had knowledge of what underclocking is and how to spot it. After this, I lost complete hope in our new trial GM's.

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Originally Posted by Leopard

Im taken aback too, he is a quality staff member, but to hear that was a shot to the head. That was a really poor move on his part, but we do have to understand it is his choice and not ours, his life and not ours, and he has to do what he thinks is best for him.

On another topic, these new staff members surely know how to shit talk. There was quite an argument today between Jin, KingKareem, Resort and Ben today; it was rather funny though.
Adorable was trying to handle a UC thread, when she can hardly K-style in game, she just talks or ignores people.
Jin fired a comment to her, and she of course ignored it; what choice did she really have. But Resort says "Jin shut the **** up you cant handle a UC thread either" or something like that. It caused a dispute for about 5 minutes, before Ben applys ice to the burns made within the chatbox. I was muted during the time, but I really would've liked to jump into this conversation, because for a newer staff member, that was a poor move and you make yourself look unprofessional. I applaud Adorable for ignoring the situation, it is what you should do, but I'm puzzled why she tried to do the UC report. I believe she should of left it to Kunal, somebody who had knowledge of what underclocking is and how to spot it. After this, I lost complete hope in our new trial GM's.

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funny part about hearing that is Jin actually knows how to spot UC/OC. lmao. i have nothing against resort but he obviously won't be making the staff, not from that kinda attitude.

I know, he's really good at K styling and knows a lot about under clocking. I truly agree with you, and its sad because he was one I would have liked to been staff, but after his recent post and comments I highly doubt he'll make it, but you never know. I swear they barely look at the members recent actions, and just pick people who were "favored". That is clearly an opinion set on the table, but it is what I believe.

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I know, he's really good at K styling and knows a lot about under clocking. I truly agree with you, and its sad because he was one I would have liked to been staff, but after his recent post and comments I highly doubt he'll make it, but you never know. I swear they barely look at the members recent actions, and just pick people who were "favored". That is clearly an opinion set on the table, but it is what I believe.

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his recent comments were just comments. when jin wants to be professional, he can be quite formal and official. i wouldn't bet against him, not until you seen him allaround '-'. but people are entitled to their opinions. ;D

He's a great character imo, Although mostly he does act formal, he is also really funny and also is a troll.

I would really like the people who know how to spot these problems within gunz, like underclocking & shotbot to give advice to our newer staff members, that way the staff would be great! Knowingly, a couple of our ELITE members have alot of knowledge about underclocking, but are currently butt hurt with the server at the moment, but seeing them pitch in to help the staff would be nice. There'd be less complaints which would be good for a change.

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Originally Posted by Leopard

He's a great character imo, Although mostly he does act formal, he is also really funny and also is a troll.

I would really like the people who know how to spot these problems within gunz, like underclocking & shotbot to give advice to our newer staff members, that way the staff would be great! Knowingly, a couple of our ELITE members have alot of knowledge about underclocking, but are currently butt hurt with the server at the moment, but seeing them pitch in to help the staff would be nice. There'd be less complaints which would be good for a change.

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when chosen to be a game moderator, it is kinda assumed that you know how to spot uc/oc, or at the very least, know what it is. honestly, that's all dave should look for in his choices since we have enough staff capable of the spammers/flamers, and the uc/oc gms would easily be able to take care of those.

True, true. But usually "you know who" looks past this. Anyways, I have to go.

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Originally Posted by Leopard

True, true. But usually "you know who" looks past this. Anyways, I have to go.

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haha, alright mate. maybe later we'll talk more via skype? i'll add you later ;P

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Originally Posted by Leopard

Im taken aback too, he is a quality staff member, but to hear that was a shot to the head. That was a really poor move on his part, but we do have to understand it is his choice and not ours, his life and not ours, and he has to do what he thinks is best for him.

On another topic, these new staff members surely know how to shit talk. There was quite an argument today between Jin, KingKareem, Resort and Ben today; it was rather funny though.
Adorable was trying to handle a UC thread, when she can hardly K-style in game, she just talks or ignores people.
Jin fired a comment to her, and she of course ignored it; what choice did she really have. But Resort says "Jin shut the **** up you cant handle a UC thread either" or something like that. It caused a dispute for about 5 minutes, before Ben applys ice to the burns made within the chatbox. I was muted during the time, but I really would've liked to jump into this conversation, because for a newer staff member, that was a poor move and you make yourself look unprofessional. I applaud Adorable for ignoring the situation, it is what you should do, but I'm puzzled why she tried to do the UC report. I believe she should of left it to Kunal, somebody who had knowledge of what underclocking is and how to spot it. After this, I lost complete hope in our new trial GM's.

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No hate or anything, but Kunal doesn't know how to spot either... '-'
After Kunal declined this report. https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...-oc&highlight=
Flavour came to me asking me to check the replays. I said it was OC and I told Flavour to ask another member of staff to reopen and look at it. And now he's banned.

Thanks again Alex & Joobie, did what you had to do. Apparently Jakanadin wanted you guys to remain staff even though you weren't happy. Eh, it's not about how he feels, it about how you feel. Who gives a fk what he feels?

I won't stop expressing my opinion even if it means some people gets extremely butthurt about it. I won't stop until the right changes are made to the staff team as Charcoal mentioned earlier. Neither do I expect anyone to see these things happening around us and remain silent about the situation..which might explain why Jin 'trolls'.

1. Demote Miranda completely.
2. Demote Micah.
3. Demote GetOffMyKicks.
4. Strip Hellsnipers of his Forum powers. (Keep his ingame powers)
5. Strip StephanM of his Forum powers. (Although he has calmed down recently, so he might be able to keep it)

Atm, I don't really mind Jakanadin. He just makes couple mistakes and talks rubbish from time to time.

Too long to read

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Originally Posted by Rash

Thanks again Alex & Joobie, did what you had to do. Apparently Jakanadin wanted you guys to remain staff even though you weren't happy. Eh, it's not about how he feels, it about how you feel. Who gives a fk what he feels?

I won't stop expressing my opinion even if it means some people gets extremely butthurt about it. I won't stop until the right changes are made to the staff team as Charcoal mentioned earlier. Neither do I expect anyone to see these things happening around us and remain silent about the situation..which might explain why Jin 'trolls'.

1. Demote Miranda completely.
2. Demote Micah.
3. Demote GetOffMyKicks.
4. Strip Hellsnipers of his Forum powers. (Keep his ingame powers)
5. Strip StephanM of his Forum powers. (Although he has calmed down recently, so he might be able to keep it)

Atm, I don't really mind Jakanadin. He just makes couple mistakes and talks rubbish from time to time.

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Theres nothing wrong with the staff u dont even know them.

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Originally Posted by KingKareem

Too long to read



Theres nothing wrong with the staff u dont even know them.

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lmao. you sir are obviously new here.
welcome to freestylersworld!

Damn, I know everyone has their right to express their opinions. But can someone ban KingKareem from debate topics? Sigh.

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Originally Posted by KingKareem

Too long to read



Theres nothing wrong with the staff u dont even know them.

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You must oblivious.
You don't have to know someone to determine if what they are doing is right or wrong.
If you're smart you wouldn't comment anymore.

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Originally Posted by Rash

Damn, I know everyone has their right to express their opinions. But can someone ban KingKareem from debate topics? Sigh.

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Interesting Questions:
Why is rash mad? Could he possibly be jealous of the staff? Is Bashy somehow involved with Rash? Some eyebrows have to be raised here.
Is KingKareem right? (yes :D) The staff are doing their job so why is Rash raging?

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Originally Posted by Adam

lmao. you sir are obviously new here.
welcome to freestylersworld!

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I actually am new, i joined about 2-3 months ago. Whats ur point?

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Originally Posted by KingKareem

Interesting Questions:
Why is rash mad? Could he possibly be jealous of the staff? Is Bashy somehow involved with Rash? Some eyebrows have to be raised here.
Is KingKareem right? (yes :D) The staff are doing their job so why is Rash raging?



I actually am new, i joined about 2-3 months ago. Whats ur point?

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Interesting Questions:

Is Kareem a dumbass? When will he stop acting like one?
Will he ever stfu and realize that no one gives a flying fu.ck about what he has to say?
Some eyebrows have been raised here.

joobie was best omfg

q_q

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Originally Posted by KingKareem

Interesting Questions:
Why is rash mad? Could he possibly be jealous of the staff? Is Bashy somehow involved with Rash? Some eyebrows have to be raised here.
Is KingKareem right? (yes :D) The staff are doing their job so why is Rash raging?



I actually am new, i joined about 2-3 months ago. Whats ur point?

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My point is that Rash is a former Game Moderator and has been with FreestylesWorld for many years. He knows what he's talking about. You're just a random who joined 2-3 months ago. You don't know what is going on.

I remember when I helped Bashy&Rash with a UC report ahahha. Anyways, if you GM's need help in spotting uc / oc PM me aha, i'm not picking sides in this argument. But, I do have to say that we had more qualified GM's that got denied. And if you say "Why didn't you make an APP for gm if you're so full of yourself" the answer is because 99% I won't get accepted because ThanksDD is my brother. (new joiners won't know about this)

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My point is that Rash is a former Game Moderator and has been with FreestylesWorld for many years. He knows what he's talking about. You're just a random who joined 2-3 months ago. You don't know what is going on.

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Ok tell me whats going on.

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Originally Posted by KingKareem

Ok tell me whats going on.

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did you know there's a new dance called harlem shake going around its like the new gangnam style its soo cool my friend told me about it all of my friends are doing it now too wow dude xd

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Originally Posted by JohnB

did you know there's a new dance called harlem shake going around its like the new gangnam style its soo cool my friend told me about it all of my friends are doing it now too wow dude xd

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Ikr, it looks stupid.

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Originally Posted by KingKareem

Ikr, it looks stupid.

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While your at it, buy some condoms because the amount of **** you ride is to damn high, and then drink some bleach. bye.

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Originally Posted by Leopard

While your at it, buy some condoms because the amount of **** you ride is to damn high, and then drink some bleach. bye.

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kk can u tell me a good place to buy them?

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Originally Posted by KingKareem

kk can u tell me a good place to buy them?

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Why are you acting like you can afford them? Look around your garbage can, you live there anyway I'm sure they aren't hard. You've been riding the gm's ****s for quite a while now.

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Originally Posted by KingKareem

Too long to read



Theres nothing wrong with the staff u dont even know them.

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Kareem, Rash was ex gm like last month he knows the staff better than both of us, and his assessment of them is worth alot more than yours or mine, considering hes had a hell of a lot more experience with the decisions that they've made... And considering we joined in 2013, we have no real base to judge their actions on. We can't say if they are or are not doing a good job because we don't know what a good job looks like. and i have no clue if this makes sense or not fml..

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Originally Posted by Nuva

Kareem, Rash was ex gm like last month he knows the staff better than both of us, and his assessment of them is worth alot more than yours or mine, considering hes had a hell of a lot more experience with the decisions that they've made... And considering we joined in 2013, we have no real base to judge their actions on. We can't say if they are or are not doing a good job because we don't know what a good job looks like. and i have no clue if this makes sense or not fml..

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Lol w.e ill just stop arguing about this + everytime i talk, either rash or mime hop on my ****.

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Originally Posted by KingKareem

Lol w.e ill just stop arguing about this + everytime i talk, either rash or mime hop on my ****.

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Can you shut the fk up before I strangle the shit out of you? No one fcking likes, do you understand yet? You're always on people's dcks so calm the fk down and go eat a cockmeat sandwich, I'll be more then happy to supply you with one.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7...d3e2o1_500.gif

/5char

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Originally Posted by Mime

Can you shut the fk up before I strangle the shit out of you? No one fcking likes, do you understand yet? You're always on people's dcks so calm the fk down and go eat a cockmeat sandwich, I'll be more then happy to supply you with one.

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see what i mean nuva? jajjajaja

Btw mime when u eat alphabet soup, you choke on the D. Just saying u know?

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Originally Posted by KingKareem

see what i mean nuva? jajjajaja

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yeahhh mime got alittle too emotion right there.. But regardless. My opinion still stands. But i respect your opinion as well. We will just have to agree to disagree. :)

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Originally Posted by Nuva

yeahhh mime got alittle too emotion right there.. But regardless. My opinion still stands. But i respect your opinion as well. We will just have to agree to disagree. :)

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No, mime is right.
KingKareem is acting like a complete ******, and is annoying as ****.

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Originally Posted by LaceUp

No, mime is right.
KingKareem is acting like a complete ******, and is annoying as ****.

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I haven't done anything to u or Mime.

Can any staff close this thread? This thread wont change anything, Dave picked the staff he wanted. Deal with it, dont bch about it.

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Originally Posted by KingKareem

I haven't done anything to u or Mime.

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You've done it to the whole forums, by being a bad trolll, asslicking gm's. And dumb comments on everything, just gtfo. Thats all i can say

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Originally Posted by KingKareem

I haven't done anything to u or Mime.

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all my images b failing so look @ sig

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Originally Posted by LaceUp

You've done it to the whole forums, by being a bad trolll, asslicking gm's. And dumb comments on everything, just gtfo. Thats all i can say

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Well who makes me troll u guys? U guys do, im not gonna let someone talk sht about me and get away with it.

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Originally Posted by LaceUp

No, mime is right.
KingKareem is acting like a complete ******, and is annoying as ****.

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Not seeing it. He stated his opinion calmly and hasn't really resorted to name calling or straight up raging. He simply said that he thinks the staff is doing a good job, and that rash doesn't know the staff well enough to judge them. I think he was wrong but i dont think he was really acting like a ******... Besides it was mime who took things to the next level, and ill be extremely surprised if he isn't warned or infracted for saying he was going to strangle someone, and that he wants to supply them with a "cockmeat sandwhich"--(dafuq is that who says that shit....)

Chill out... Alex and joobie are legends Jealous (Don't know what's going on)

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Originally Posted by Nuva

Not seeing it. He stated his opinion calmly and hasn't really resorted to name calling or straight up raging. He simply said that he thinks the staff is doing a good job, and that rash doesn't know the staff well enough to judge them. I think he was wrong but i dont think he was really acting like a ******... Besides it was mime who took things to the next level, and ill be extremely surprised if he isn't warned or infracted for saying he was going to strangle someone, and that he wants to supply them with a "cockmeat sandwhich"--(dafuq is that who says that shit....)

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I've already tried reporting him mutltiple times, they said he was "trolling"

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Originally Posted by DesiBoii

Chill out... Alex and joobie are legends Jealous (Don't know what's going on)

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lol we all know that ;)

Well you don't Nuava

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Originally Posted by KingKareem

see what i mean nuva? jajjajaja

Btw mime when u eat alphabet soup, you choke on the D. Just saying u know?

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I will rape your first born child.

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Originally Posted by Mime

I will rape your first born child.

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Lol calm down.

Kareem, My momma...Told you...
TO MIND YOUR OWN MOTHAFUKIN BUISNESS, YOU 2+2 NOT KNOWIN WHAT THE FCK IT IS BITCH, STUPID ASS WANNABE ASS, LONG TITTY NO NIPPLE HAVIN ASS BITCH!

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Originally Posted by Nuva

Not seeing it. He stated his opinion calmly and hasn't really resorted to name calling or straight up raging. He simply said that he thinks the staff is doing a good job, and that rash doesn't know the staff well enough to judge them. I think he was wrong but i dont think he was really acting like a ******... Besides it was mime who took things to the next level, and ill be extremely surprised if he isn't warned or infracted for saying he was going to strangle someone, and that he wants to supply them with a "cockmeat sandwhich"--(dafuq is that who says that shit....)

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Its cause he doesn't know shit about whats going on, and talks shit @ rash, he asks for it.
He shouldnt even respond to these kind of threads.

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I've already tried reporting him mutltiple times, they said he was "trolling"

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I'm not saying you should report him... Although a forum mod should definitely take it upon themselves to do something about this kid.... I mean from all that i've seen he doesn't really contribute anything positive to the forums anyways. Most of his comments or either "kill urself" or more random flaming. But meah.. by saying this i have unleashed the troll upon myself lol

Nuva you can stfu cause you're just some no life kid who joined and started acting big. Shut the hell up already.
Kareem trolls way too much and thinks he's funny. About time someone sets him straight.

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Originally Posted by LaceUp

Its cause he doesn't know shit about whats going on, and talks shit @ rash, he asks for it.
He shouldnt even respond to these kind of threads.

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I totally agree with you. Same reason i have not argued about the topic myself. #2013 newgenswag

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Originally Posted by LaceUp

Its cause he doesn't know shit about whats going on, and talks shit @ rash, he asks for it.
He shouldnt even respond to these kind of threads.

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I can respond to any thread. 1st amendment: Freedom of speech, religion, etc. GG

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Originally Posted by Nuva

I'm not saying you should report him... Although a forum mod should definitely take it upon themselves to do something about this kid.... I mean from all that i've seen he doesn't really contribute anything positive to the forums anyways. Most of his comments or either "kill urself" or more random flaming. But meah.. by saying this i have unleashed the troll upon myself lol

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Who the **** are you anyways
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7...d3e2o1_500.gif

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Originally Posted by Mime

Nuva you can stfu cause you're just some no life kid who joined and started acting big. Shut the hell up already.
Kareem trolls way too much and thinks he's funny. About time someone sets him straight.

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I only troll u cuz u ask for it.

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Originally Posted by KingKareem

I can respond to any thread. 1st amendment: Freedom of speech, religion, etc. GG

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Not if all you're gonna do is trollin, you'll end up getting banned.
And please, stop asskissing the Gm's. ***.

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Originally Posted by Leopard

Who the **** are you anyways
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7...d3e2o1_500.gif

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Hes nuva

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Originally Posted by Mime

Nuva you can stfu cause you're just some no life kid who joined and started acting big. Shut the hell up already.
Kareem trolls way too much and thinks he's funny. About time someone sets him straight.

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No one is setting me straight.

ALL OF YOU SHUT UP EXCEPT MIME and LEOPARD.

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Originally Posted by LaceUp

Not if all you're gonna do is trollin, you'll end up getting banned.
And please, stop asskissing the Gm's. ***.

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Pics of me ass kissing gms or gtfo.

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Originally Posted by KingKareem

Hes nuva



No one is setting me straight.

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No shit http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7...d3e2o1_500.gif

Nuva I'll supply you with sum bleach hmu

Let the kings talk.

id just like to say that i love JohnB

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Originally Posted by LaceUp

Not if all you're gonna do is trollin, you'll end up getting banned.
And please, stop asskissing the Gm's. ***.

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I'll end up getting banned? Look what Mime is saying. I dont think its healthy to rage that much.

kareem get your ass back at the corner store, nobody needs you here anyway you dirty little tramp, i bet irl you look like a ratchet stewart little you bitch ass white kid @_@. Why the **** are people so annoying. Killy0self #2013nobody****ingcaresyounewgengtfostfu
#donewith***s
#bleachdrinkin

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I'll end up getting banned? Look what Mime is saying. I dont think its healthy to rage that much.

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All bad trolls end up getting banned.

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Originally Posted by Mime

Nuva you can stfu cause you're just some no life kid who joined and started acting big. Shut the hell up already.
Kareem trolls way too much and thinks he's funny. About time someone sets him straight.

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@no life kid... http://fgunz.net/character/view/Mime
you have 108 days played in about 10 months time. Your just as bad as me so that's an extremely hypocritical statement, and stop calling people kid, i guarantee your not 18....

@started acting big.... I have no clue what that means....

@Kareem trolls way too much and thinks he's funny. About time someone sets him straight.... Once again hypocritical, and how do you set someone straight over the internet?

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Who the **** are you anyways
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7...d3e2o1_500.gif

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2013 newgen who are you?

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Originally Posted by nuva

@no life kid... http://fgunz.net/character/view/mime
you have 108 days played in about 10 months time. Your just as bad as me so that's an extremely hypocritical statement, and stop calling people kid, i guarantee your not 18....

@started acting big.... I have no clue what that means....

@kareem trolls way too much and thinks he's funny. About time someone sets him straight.... Once again hypocritical, and how do you set someone straight over the internet?

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tell your dad to buy a better condom next time you assclown, are you kareems boyfriend or somethingggg.

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Originally Posted by Nuva

@no life kid... http://fgunz.net/character/view/Mime
you have 108 days played in about 10 months time. Your just as bad as me so that's an extremely hypocritical statement, and stop calling people kid, i guarantee your not 18....

@started acting big.... I have no clue what that means....

@Kareem trolls way too much and thinks he's funny. About time someone sets him straight.... Once again hypocritical, and how do you set someone straight over the internet?

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Thanks for reminding me to post the replay of yesterday night.
Stop thinking you're smart or something, youre just another randy.

Gotta love my Post count increasing :D

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Originally Posted by Nuva

@no life kid... http://fgunz.net/character/view/Mime
you have 108 days played in about 10 months time. Your just as bad as me so that's an extremely hypocritical statement, and stop calling people kid, i guarantee your not 18....

@started acting big.... I have no clue what that means....

@Kareem trolls way too much and thinks he's funny. About time someone sets him straight.... Once again hypocritical, and how do you set someone straight over the internet?

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I started this recent account like 2 months before summer, summer time was an extremely slow working time for me. I only had work like. 5 hours a week. And apart from chilling with my friends I use to play GunZ. Not like you who got lvl 99 in 42 and thinks it's an achievement to no life. Go quest some fcking random ass br. If you compare my time from when there was decent staff to now, you'll see I don't even play 1hour a week.
Eat my shit, no one likes you.

Oh how this thread is just a small example of how this community has gone to shit.

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Originally Posted by Leopard

tell your dad to buy a better condom next time you assclown, are you kareems boyfriend or somethingggg.

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First off your newgen too you haven't even been here for a year.... plus i've already stated that i don't even agree with kareem, AND i haven't actually said anything directed at you. People like you are the reason people are raging about the community being horrible. Take a second to stop flaming and actually think before you post..

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First off your newgen too you haven't even been here for a year.... plus i've already stated that i don't even agree with kareem, AND i haven't actually said anything directed at you. People like you are the reason people are raging about the community being horrible. Take a second to stop flaming and actually think before you post..

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No, kareem is a reason, and now you are one. For defending that piece of shit.

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Originally Posted by Mime

I started this recent account like 2 months before summer, summer time was an extremely slow working time for me. I only had work like. 5 hours a week. And apart from chilling with my friends I use to play GunZ. Not like you who got lvl 99 in 42 and thinks it's an achievement to no life. Go quest some fcking random ass br. If you compare my time from when there was decent staff to now, you'll see I don't even play 1hour a week.
Eat my shit, no one likes you.

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zz proved nothing.. phrase no one likes you is a fail. and still 1 third of a year played in 10 months. done gg no re

Kareem and N0va are born from pond scum ^^.

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I can respond to any thread. 1st amendment: Freedom of speech, religion, etc. GG

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I hope you realized that this Forum isn't the United States. We have people from all over the world. You should feel like shit.

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First off your newgen too you haven't even been here for a year.... plus i've already stated that i don't even agree with kareem, AND i haven't actually said anything directed at you. People like you are the reason people are raging about the community being horrible. Take a second to stop flaming and actually think before you post..

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People like you are why the community sucks dck now. Shut the hell up.

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Originally Posted by Nuva

First off your newgen too you haven't even been here for a year.... plus i've already stated that i don't even agree with kareem, AND i haven't actually said anything directed at you. People like you are the reason people are raging about the community being horrible. Take a second to stop flaming and actually think before you post..

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1 n0t 3v3n st@rt fl@m3 0k@y g4y 4 n33d 2 ch111 m3n

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People like you are why the community sucks dck now. Shut the hell up.

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No, people like YOU are the reason why the community is shit.
Mime and Leopard, enjoy your 2 week ban. (Any unban appeal will be instantly declined.)

In case you didn't know, this thread was in the DEBATES section. This doesn't mean you can say/flame/insult whatever you want.

I told this to Joobie before that he was a better Game Moderator as a Forum Moderator.
And I love how those 'questionable' signatures are going around, I'll be nice to remove them with just a verbal warning (this post) instead of handing out infractions.