Should StephanM be Developer or Forum Moderator?

I'm posting this thread cause i'm tired of being censored, of being infracted, and mainly, because im tired of having to tolerate the slackness of some people.
The poll is simple, vote what do you think would fit better with stephan since as we all can see, he can't handle both jobs at the same time.

I personally would say none, cause as you could see in this thread, he's covering his lack of developent work, by closing some suggestion thread an user made kindly, only cause that would mean work for him. (https://freestylersworld.com/showthre...095#post628095)

This thread is intended to be respectful towards stephan though, this is just an objective point of view regarding his work, no emotions or any hateful content involved.

If you want to prove me, and any who supports back the poll, i invite you to make a blog section with all the stuff you are currently making in the developers section since you're the only one missing that.

WE LOVE YOU STEPHANNN,

Matt.

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This thread is your big argument? Really?

StephanM should be Admin. ok

Suck up^

I believe the dev team hasn't been developing anything lol. Have they???????

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Originally Posted by Mike

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This thread is your big argument? Really?

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Of course not, i just posted that cause it was a clear example of the censoring he does in that kind of threads.
He calls this kind of suggestions as being useless threads and such.

Inspite i have something personal with him, cause i repel the slackness that come from him i dont find any good coming from that, i kept this objective and i consider this should be heard. I'm not the only one who thinks this way, mike.

It's fine the way it is. How could this thread be respectful if you're trying to demote him?
It's like saying: Stephen is incompetent as a DEV and Moderator. He needs to be demoted. With all due respect.



Useless thread. Stop being a complaining beta bish... with all due respect :P
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Originally Posted by KoreanAim

Of course not, i just posted that cause it was a clear example of the censoring he does in that kind of threads.
He calls this kind of suggestions as being useless threads and such.

Inspite i have something personal with him, cause i repel the slackness that come from him i dont find any good coming from that, i kept this objective and i consider this should be heard. I'm not the only one who thinks this way, mike.

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That suggestion thread was useless and for multiple reasons:

1. Did you bother to read the post? "Naruto gun and another naruto gun and naruto this and naruto that..." etc? It's a thread by Amzzz if you read his previous threads he isn't serious and that "suggestion" isn't serious.
2. Suggestions should go in the offical suggestion thread, here. Developers actively respond to it.

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Originally Posted by Mike

That suggestion thread was useless and for multiple reasons:

1. Did you bother to read the post? "Naruto gun and another naruto gun and naruto this and naruto that..." etc? It's a thread by Amzzz if you read his previous threads he isn't serious and that "suggestion" isn't serious.
2. Suggestions should go in the offical suggestion thread, here. Developers actively respond to it.

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I belive you're not focusing in the primary point of this thread, that was just an example of how he do not give a single fck about what people want, and how he used his forum mod powers to just close that thread, like he does with many others, at will.
This is mainly cause of the lack of developement work he does. I would be cool if he would be a forum moderator only maybe, only if he works in that censoring problem he does have. I just want him to work? is it that much to ask? i mean, he's a developer afterall..........

How about you just don't screw with people's staff positions? He was chosen for a reason wasn't he?
Just sayin'.

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Originally Posted by Greyhound

I believe the dev team hasn't been developing anything lol. Have they???????

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Let's be honest though. These guys are using up free time, probably getting no money in the process, to develop for a private server.

Chances are they don't do much per day which is why update tend to be spacial, however large. If you were in their position, you wouldn't want to use all of your spare time to just develop for something you won't get much for in return. They have other things to tend to like real life matters or simply a job, which can set one back really far if it's full-time.

I do, however, see where you're coming from. We've been seeing blogs but no ETAs about said updates and a lot of use are wanting them. The [v] fix, the sniper nerf, the Anti-lead fix and more than likely a bunch of huge surprises and a lot of us are beginning to lost patience. I can easily wait, though I am getting tired of [v] 1 hit nade bullshit, but I'm not gonna force them because how would I like it if a bunch of people I didn't know to start yelling at me for something I have LITTLE time for and NOT get paid for it? I think I would hate it and would more than likely DISCOURAGE me from even doing it because I'll only please these people for 1 week before they start demanding more bullshit and repeat the damn cycle.

I won't lie, I am surprised they put up with a lot of players' bullshit here. The fact they haven't quit says something enough already. They are working on it, but just be patient. This isn't their full-time job nor a part-time. It's a hobby and you'll just have to deal with this fact or simply leave if you dislike this kind of truth.

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Originally Posted by Gr3yscale

How about you just don't screw with people's staff positions? He was chosen for a reason wasn't he?
Just sayin'.

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He was infact, but like GMS, they can get demoted if they do not accomplish their functions as it should, i mean, they can get demoted for being inactive, and such, why shouldn't it be the same with developers if they do not work?

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Originally Posted by KoreanAim

I belive you're not focusing in the primary point of this thread, that was just an example of how he do not give a single fck about what people want, and how he used his forum mod powers to just close that thread, like he does with many others, at will.
This is mainly cause of the lack of developement work he does. I would be cool if he would be a forum moderator only maybe, only if he works in that censoring problem he does have. I just want him to work? is it that much to ask? i mean, he's a developer afterall..........

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He closed it because suggestions belong in the official suggestion thread not separate threads.
Everything else shouldn't be commented on by you as we have our own system within the staff team of regulating work loads.

I think you have no freaking say in what goes on in the administration of this server.

Leave matters to Dave and McSic, if you have a personal problem talk to Stephan one on one. Leave this trash off the forum, it is rather annoying.

mai2cents

***** just take away Nagi's (HellSniper) forum power.
Banning me 24/7 and shit.

I wouldn't mind Stephan being a forum mod if he didn't ban me for stupid shit like "Micah told me you called him a name in a different language" which I didn't, but instead of asking for proof he banned
me from the chatbox anyways. :P

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Originally Posted by Mike

That suggestion thread was useless and for multiple reasons:

1. Did you bother to read the post? "Naruto gun and another naruto gun and naruto this and naruto that..." etc? It's a thread by Amzzz if you read his previous threads he isn't serious and that "suggestion" isn't serious.
2. Suggestions should go in the offical suggestion thread, here. Developers actively respond to it.

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:( ive set myself up as a jokester loooooooool. Anyways mike has a point lol i knew that, what i wanted would never happen so i just made a some thread asking lol. BTW DONT BRING ME INTO THIS IM NOT A BAD GUY korean is going crazy CRAZY I TELL U CRAZY.

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Originally Posted by Wucas

I think you have no freaking say in what goes on in the administration of this server.

Leave matters to Dave and McSic, if you have a personal problem talk to Stephan one on one. Leave this trash off the forum, it is rather annoying.

mai2cents

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I'm just making a debate to know what people think about my opinion?, ofc i'm not who to talk about the administration of this server, I'll personally ask you and mike then, since you both are co-workers with stephan, do you think he meet the requirements to actively be part of the development staff?
If so, explain how and i would also like to see any recent work he's done.
I dont consider this thread as trash, infact, I think it's one of the most important threads made in the past week.

Stephan applied has applied for both positions at separate times and got accepted to both. Each developer has a specific job they do, and Stephan, in my opinion, is the most active forum moderator. He is doing a great job in both and he is a good guy to get along with, there is no logical reason as to why he should be removed from any position that he has earned.

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Originally Posted by KoreanAim

I'm just making a debate to know what people think about my opinion?, ofc i'm not who to talk about the administration of this server, I'll personally ask you and mike then, since you both are co-workers with stephan, do you think he meet the requirements to actively be part of the development staff?
If so, explain how and i would also like to see any recent work he's done.
I dont consider this thread as trash, infact, I think it's one of the most important threads made in the past week.

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You're not obligated to see anything just as much as Wucas and I are not obligated to talk about someone else's work.

dis attention rocks :) LOLOLOLO

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Originally Posted by Rocka

Stephan applied has applied for both positions at separate times and got accepted to both. Each developer has a specific job they do, and Stephan, in my opinion, is the most active forum moderator. He is doing a great job in both and he is a good guy to get along with, there is no logical reason as to why he should be removed from any position that he has earned.

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With that, you have just supported stephan's forum moderator position, yet not developer.

As i replied to someone previously, you could apply for GM, be accepted, and then, if you do not meet the requirements needed to STILL be part of that, be demoted consequently.

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Originally Posted by KoreanAim

I'm just making a debate to know what people think about my opinion?, ofc i'm not who to talk about the administration of this server, I'll personally ask you and mike then, since you both are co-workers with stephan, do you think he meet the requirements to actively be part of the development staff?
If so, explain how and i would also like to see any recent work he's done.
I dont consider this thread as trash, infact, I think it's one of the most important threads made in the past week.

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The fact is this isn't a democracy, people aren't elected into positions, nor are they just given spots because they perform better than others (even though performance is indeed something looked at). I may have put it blunt in the fact that I called your thread trash, but the thing is, personal disagreements between you and Stephen (whether it be forum related or entirely unassociated) does not reflect how everyone feels about him. Do I have a problem with you thinking someone could do their job better? No, I critique people every day on how they do things, but the problem is threads like this do nothing good. They weaken morale, get people angry, draw lines in the sand, and at the end of the day, less was solved than what originally problematic in the first place. I simply am saying there are channels you go through to make improvements to the system, especially when the system is not in a place where the general public decide what is right or wrong. Following those channels are more efficient, practical, and will get leave everyone happier in the end.

TL;DR: Your opinion isn't the issue, it is the way you are going about displaying your opinion that makes this a problem

Brisk is forum mod and is inactive but he never infracted me or muted. (Like Jakanadin) But StephanM that boy damn son infract 24/7. This was my story.


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  03-04-2013 03:47 PMby StephanM
  
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Originally Posted by KoreanAim

With that, you have just supported stephan's forum moderator position, yet not developer.

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What if i told you that its bugfixing of something, something that isnt much to show off ? ...

Theres no reason for you to "attack" one of my developers.
If you have a problem with him, talk with him instead of making a thread.
We are aware of the fact that you are nothing more than a trouble maker hence why you get those infactions.
But ofcourse you dont see your own wrong doings and solely blame stephan.

I'll leave this open for a response by you, if i see more bullshit ill close it.

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Originally Posted by Saiyan

StephanM should be Admin. ok

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Right. StephanM should be more than admin

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Originally Posted by Wucas

The fact is this isn't a democracy, people aren't elected into positions, nor are they just given spots because they perform better than others (even though performance is indeed something looked at). I may have put it blunt in the fact that I called your thread trash, but the thing is, personal disagreements between you and Stephen (whether it be forum related or entirely unassociated) does not reflect how everyone feels about him. Do I have a problem with you thinking someone could do their job better? No, I critique people every day on how they do things, but the problem is threads like this do nothing good. They weaken morale, get people angry, draw lines in the sand, and at the end of the day, less was solved than what originally problematic in the first place. I simply am saying there are channels you go through to make improvements to the system, especially when the system is not that where the general public decide what is right or wrong. Following those channels are more efficient, practical, and will get leave everyone happier in the end.

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I disagree on many points.
First of all, I'm posting this cause this SHOULD be a democracy, that's why im posting this, our words must be heard, and THEN, considered if they usefull stuff, or ignored if useless trash, cuz like all, we want the best for this server.
In addition to that, I know this might not be the best way to look for an answer, this is just a public poll to see what people think about his work, and it's nothing else than that. It's not a hateful thread, or nothing similar. I do not like the attiute of stephan regarding his work? Yes. But I never, EVER thought this thread would directly affect him.
I'm just stating my opinion and i want to hear everybodys. I don't expect you to back me up since you're staffmates and/or friends with him.

As i posted in the thread, i await for him to prove me im wrong. If i was, i ll give him a public apology if its needed.

behave yourself so u won't get any infractions. Useless theard-,-

PEOPPLE PEOPLE ill be the forum mod and stephan can be the developer. jesus.

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Originally Posted by HellSniper

What if i told you that its bugfixing of something, something that isnt much to show off ? ...

Theres no reason for you to "attack" one of my developers.
If you have a problem with him, talk with him instead of making a thread.
We are aware of the fact that you are nothing more than a trouble maker hence why you get those infactions.
But ofcourse you dont see your own wrong doings and solely blame stephan.

I'll leave this open for a response by you, if i see more bullshit ill close it.

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Troublemaker? this is only intended to be the best for the community, if the wheel of a car is damaged, you simply remove it, and replace it with a new one which could let the car work efficiently.

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Originally Posted by KoreanAim

I disagree on many points.
First of all, I'm posting this cause this SHOULD be a democracy, that's why im posting this, our words must be heard, and THEN, considered if they usefull stuff, or ignored if useless trash, cuz like all, we want the best for this server.
In addition to that, I know this might not be the best way to look for an answer, this is just a public poll to see what people think about his work, and it's nothing else than that. It's not a hateful thread, or nothing similar. I do not like the attiute of stephan regarding his work? Yes. But I never, EVER thought this thread would directly affect him.
I'm just stating my opinion and i want to hear everybodys. I don't expect you to back me up since you're staffmates and/or friends with him.

As i posted in the thread, i await for him to prove me im wrong. If i was, i ll give him a public apology if its needed.

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You guys dont pay taxes, you don't put in the effort of developing stuff, thus it cannot and will not be a democracy. Live with it.

Also I would like to note that I would say this regardless of it being some random stranger or my best friend. I don't "need" to back anyone up, I say what I think is right, nothing more and nothing less.

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Originally Posted by KoreanAim

I disagree on many points.
First of all, I'm posting this cause this SHOULD be a democracy, that's why im posting this, our words must be heard, and THEN, considered if they usefull stuff, or ignored if useless trash, cuz like all, we want the best for this server.
In addition to that, I know this might not be the best way to look for an answer, this is just a public poll to see what people think about his work, and it's nothing else than that. It's not a hateful thread, or nothing similar. I do not like the attiute of stephan regarding his work? Yes. But I never, EVER thought this thread would directly affect him.
I'm just stating my opinion and i want to hear everybodys. I don't expect you to back me up since you're staffmates and/or friends with him.

As i posted in the thread, i await for him to prove me im wrong. If i was, i ll give him a public apology if its needed.

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I don't think you understood what Wucas meant when he said people devote time without pay.
All I see in this thread is someone who has had many infractions, became upset, and in turn throws his anger onto someone else.
Your thread, like Wucas stated, doesn't make anything better. It just exacerbates the situation.

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Originally Posted by Sushiman

I don't think you understood what Wucas meant when he said people devote time without pay.
All I see in this thread is someone who has had many infractions, became upset, and in turn throws his anger onto someone else.
Your thread like Wucas stated doesn't make anything better. It just exacerbates the situation.

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All I see in this post is ass kissing and misunderstandings.

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Originally Posted by Charcoal

***** just take away Nagi's (HellSniper) forum power.
Banning me 24/7 and shit.

I wouldn't mind Stephan being a forum mod if he didn't ban me for stupid shit like "Micah told me you called him a name in a different language" which I didn't, but instead of asking for proof he banned
me from the chatbox anyways. :P

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LMAO Charcoal pls... you're being a beta bish more so than koreanaim
You're using his thread to take it on HellSniper too.
It's not kissing ass to agree with someone as I get nothing out of it.
Learn what ass kissing means.

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Originally Posted by Sushiman

LMAO Charcoal pls... you're being a beta bish more so than koreanaim
It's not kissing ass to agree with someone as I get nothing out of it.
Learn what ass kissing means.

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***** you're a prime example, you act as if I give two shits about what goes on in this forum. :o.o
I'm just here for the lololols.

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Originally Posted by Charcoal

***** you're a prime example, you act as if I give two shits about what goes on in this forum. :o.o

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Why are you commenting then?

Strong Edit Charcoal

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Originally Posted by Sushiman

Why are you commenting then?

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For the stupid ass reactions of course.

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Originally Posted by Wucas

You guys dont pay taxes, you don't put in the effort of developing stuff, thus it is cannot and will not be a democracy. Live with it.

Also I would like to note that I would say this regardless of it being some random stranger or my best friend. I don't "need" to back anyone up, I say what I think is right, nothing more and nothing less.

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After all these replys, i don't find a single valid argument on your, or anybody words to prove i'm wrong and that stephan does deserve to be part of THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Sushiman

I don't think you understood what Wucas meant when he said people devote time without pay.
All I see in this thread is someone who has had many infractions, became upset, and in turn throws his anger onto someone else.
Your thread, like Wucas stated, doesn't make anything better. It just exacerbates the situation.

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I've never been infracted if i recall, or if i had it was cause it was a child, funny how from NEVER been infracted by stephan, I got 2 from him in 1 day cause of a fun/troll comment, and cause of signature violation (rules had changen about the size and i wasnt aware)
But yo, idgaf about the warnings he gave me and this thread HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. I would appreciate if you would've reatn inb4 posting. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Gr3yscale

How about you just don't screw with people's staff positions? He was chosen for a reason wasn't he?
Just sayin'.

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Amen brother!

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Originally Posted by Saiyan

Amen brother!

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And with this, close.

Both.
None of your business if he should be a developer or forum moderator.

Also an add-on: if we internally make a poll about banning you and the decision is that we all agree on it. I can ban you? That's a democracy right? ;)

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