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Skilly suggested to increase the general HP/AP so fights last a bit longer (https://freestylersworld.com/showthr...ew-suggestions).
Is this something you would like to see ingame?
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Edit: https://freestylersworld.com/showthr...=1#post1070274
Here's a thread by Lawri which expands in depth on most of the problems that the current HP/AP entails: https://freestylersworld.com/showthr...119216-2-cents
If this was to go through and be adjusted, the idea is to still be able to 3 shot with [S] shotguns, but only with 3 full PBs (not like it is right now). That means there will be no way for L to 3 shot anymore, S only with very hard hits (full PBs), and H with 2 good hits and whatever
Yes pls, it's possible to get 2-shotted now.
Fine for me..Quote:
Originally Posted by McSic
No. Gladiator duels already take long enough Kappa
As for tdm, I've always thought that the hp/ap was balanced, just comes down to skills. Instead of changing hp/ap I'd change the amount meds heals you if I were to change anything.
Make it like 150/150
We could potentially buff melee weapon damage a bit to make up for it and promote usage of melee weapons if this were to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Linzor
Right now it takes roughly 10 slashes to insta kill with a 200c sword. That's not that many slashes.Quote:
Originally Posted by McSic
Current damage ranges for sword are 16-29 (rusty -> katana x), that could be made to 20-32 and it'd be fine imo
There's obviously other melee weapons to worry about too
Is there a possibility of adding a tag that allows a multiplication by your current hp instead?
x1.2 for example, to bring your hp from 139 to 167 and ap from 119 to 143.
Hell yeah les go
bruh real glad is with rusty sword, and no one is insta'ing in a real duel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skilly
Lower melee weapons more, no need to increase HP/AP. KappaQuote:
Originally Posted by Linzor
lack of ammo in 4v4 / 8v8 tdm or clanwar
I like this we should start with this hp/ap.Quote:
Originally Posted by UI_Yui
With this hp/ap u can only miss 2 pellets in order to 3 shot someone. Very nice, makes it a lot more challenging and fun in my opinion.
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Just make a [Rusty] tag that allows u to play like u have always played idkQuote:
Originally Posted by Linzor
Yeah I agree, also it's exactly 300 DMG kills, which looks coolerQuote:
Originally Posted by Shang
I know right??? my idea is 2000 iq
no..Quote:
Originally Posted by Faky
also if u guys add more hp/ap are u gonna buff the hp/ap meds aswell?
7 clip should do itQuote:
Originally Posted by rise
No ! 139/119 is fine.
No, no and no. There is no reason to increase the HP/AP. And for those who say you can get 2-shotted, it's not like you can do it in every match/fight you have.
If you claim the fights are not long enough - then you're probably getting killed too fast, play smarter okay. Those who voted yes are probably the users who play A&D or Garden TDM.
then bring back [IA] and [R] :o.o
Does it matter what mode they play?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ommadawn
Pls yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Minato
Clearly it's the oppositeQuote:
Originally Posted by Ommadawn
I mean there are huge differences between the modes. a normal garden tdm for example is pretty different from a cw.Quote:
Originally Posted by StephanM
Im agree with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ommadawn
It's a no no for me too. If you get 2 shotted then ur soft. :o.o
nice logic famQuote:
Originally Posted by Minato
You could be the greatest player, you will still get 2 shotted because some guy got 2 lucky shots on youQuote:
Originally Posted by Minato
Man look how stupid they played in their garden TDMQuote:
Originally Posted by rise
Was just quoting his assumption of "Those who voted yes are probably the users who play A&D or Garden TDM."Quote:
Originally Posted by Linzor
Actually does not matter what mode people play, if they think they should vote for a buff or not.
But yes there is a difference, but nothing that would break the mode.
For example if everything would get +10 HP/AP, that is not game breaking but that might extend fights longer which could make the game more fun?
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HP and AP should never be equal, I rather see a change in the rings we have where you either choose for extra HP&AP, HP&HP or AP&AP (so some choose extra AP over HP for example to be more diverse).Quote:
Originally Posted by UI_Yui
151/149 lez go still same amount not equal
Why would anyone choose an AP&AP ring?Quote:
Originally Posted by StephanM
Why not? Having equal HP/AP only makes balancing easier? I imagine it makes it much easier to figure out how much damage should go to AP and how much to HP for each weaponQuote:
Originally Posted by StephanM
its the opposite really, ask the competetive players and everyone will say u die too fast on fgunzQuote:
Originally Posted by Ommadawn
I thought AP simply took a percentage of damage from any weapon regardless of type (except fire element) with a random attribute attached -- say 40% damage goes to AP with variance from 35% to 45% (throwing numbers)Quote:
Originally Posted by Skilly
I'm sure there's penetration, revs do more damage to HP for example. I might be wrong...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunny
That's right. I also don't see a problem with HP and AP being the same amount.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skilly
what about a room tag like you had to test spread out with ?
or dev server so we can testQuote:
Originally Posted by Ganggbangg
Damn look at how good i amQuote:
Originally Posted by rise
This makes no sens tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by rise
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Originally Posted by Bunny
We could do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganggbangg
No it should be 2-3 shotted game
This will be great, now I will be able to shoot more from around the corner before I die. :4
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Originally Posted by Bunny
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Originally Posted by Ganggbangg
Added in next update so you can set a HP/AP modifier on room creation (100 ~ 150%) and figure out what's best for you. Looking forward to the feedback.Quote:
Originally Posted by McSic
Bear in mind that:
1) This was quickly done and added so the death message may not show the correct HP/AP of others and you also don't see the correct HP/AP when spectating others, but it works nonetheless as you can tell from your own HP/AP. It's just a temporary mod that will be removed once we have received enough feedback.
2) This doesn't represent the complete real experience as with increased HP/AP we will probably also increase med capacity by 1 (or 2) and possibly melee damage (for low level melee weapons at least).
thx for not listening to people in training rooms and listening to the competitive cw players.Quote:
Originally Posted by McSic
much appreciated
no, dont make it like other gunz server then its impossibe to kill a player, i'd rather decrease to 120/100